Chinese Pianist Plays Anti-American Propaganda Tune at White House

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I hope Obama do not uses a few selected chinese forum comments as valid intel...unlike some of the people here. Thats like Hu Jintao surfing Stormfront in search for american opinions...
 
This is the one of many tension seedlings that will one day spring forth a jagged and gnarled war "tree". I await the eventual occupation from China.
 
My Chinese father in-law, whose own brother-in law was president of Taiwan, and whose whole family is deeply rooted in matters of Chinese nationalism, says he knew the tune, but had no idea what it was from. His wife, who is mainland Chinese, also knew the tune, and had no idea what it was from. Independently, she had heard of the movie, and hadn't even thought of it as propoganda until Chinese forum trolls started making the connection. Both are college educated and very sophisticated and steeped in the politics of both nations, think this is a bunch of horseshit.

Storm in a green teacup.
 
A Chinese pianist played a stealth pro-China song at the dinner? Ooh, yeah good one China. That'll teach those evil capitalist Americans. Just shows how immature the Chinese are for doing that and how immature the Americans are for actually caring about it.

Grow up humanity!
 
I'm guessing that Lang Lang knew the lyrics of the song(which says nothing about war or America at all) and figured it was just an uplifting song about the Chinese people.
 
I read the thread.

Honestly, who gives a fuck? Even IF it was meant as an insult (which apparently it wasn't) it's an obscure insult in the form of song in a foreign language.

If some Romanian dude was going to yell at obscenities at me in limerick form in Romanian, I'd just look at him, shrug, and move on.
 
Lol that's the weakest and most stupid kind of insult.
It's like insulting someone in a foreign language they don't understand:people who do it think they're clever,but the guy who receives the insult just doesn't care.
 
Ripclawe said:
why shouldn't people be upset by it. Name any country that invites someone only to have them spit in your face and not be upset by it.

I don't expect Obama to know every Chinese detail but going over the program someone should have realized what this song was about and stopped it.

Even worse if it comes out that it was known and they let it play anyway
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Dude, you sound ridiculous. Even if this was intentional trolling by the pianist, do you expect people to be scanning his pieces (especially when there's no vocals!) to see what's 'appropriate"? Pretty ironic from someone who objects to "government interference" in pretty much everything lol

You right-wingers will look for anything even remotely connected to Obama to be outraged about. It's so petty and makes people not want to hear your valid concerns
 
Forkball said:
This is the worst prank they've pulled since they urinated in our soda.
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Psssshxzzzxtttt!!! They did WHAT?


Honestly, the song doesn't sound that anti-American to me. Would they call "America the Beautiful" an anti-China song?
 
slidewinder said:
You realize that you are cut from exactly the same cloth as the Chinese people who are trying to play this up as a dis, OP?
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How's that? I think the whole thing is childish, and the behavior a bit boorish. But mostly, I think it was another regrettable protocol slip-up by the State Dept. that the song got approved to be played at the dinner.

So no, I don't think I'm cut from that cloth.

But thanks for mischaracterizing my position completely by assumption, and not by what I actually wrote, which is pretty fucking clear. That's always helpful and illuminating.
 
My Motherland is by no means an "anti-American" song of any nature. It is an insult to musicians and composers to attach such labels to a tune simply because it was written as part of a movie where sentiments were against America. Propaganda song? Maybe. Patriotic tune? Most certainly. Anti-American? Definitely not.
 
vas_a_morir said:
Psssshxzzzxtttt!!! They did WHAT?


Honestly, the song doesn't sound that anti-American to me. Would they call "America the Beautiful" an anti-China song?
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It's called sarcasm.
 
Even if this were intentionally insulting, and I doubt that it is, then it only perpetuates the idea that China is petty. They would embarrass themselves more than the U.S. Honestly, this kerfuffle seems to be conjured by a few nationalists with too much time on their hands and a penchant for confirmation bias.
 
Lol at people who thinks this was an insult.
Lol at people who got baited by wankers on Chinese Nationalist boards.
Lol at people who got mad at this.
 
lol who gives a fuck? Sorry, music is a medium far too abstract and open to interpretation to carry the kind of weighty and unmistakable symbolism comparable to the impact delivered by something as simple and unambiguous as, say, a swastika.

Someone teach China to troll
 
I didn't enter the "Why hate China" thread, so I don't know if it originated there or not, but I saw the term 'China Hawk' ITT and I like it.
It's fucking like a couple people in my shop, when the news is on in the background, China gets mentioned and they have to stop what they are doing and say "China?! Oh shit! What's this?!" like they are announcing plans to invade or something.

This? Piano music? I'm not gonna get pissed off about no piano music...
 
Every schmuck convinced by the China superpower rhetoric needs to read this article, the salient point being:
Wall Street Journal said:
As for Hu, a bit of humility is in order. China’s investment-driven growth has paid off so far, but may already be witnessing declining marginal returns. McKinsey estimates that China now needs to invest $4.90 to produce each dollar of GDP growth, up from $3.30 in the early 1990s. Shifting to a new model will require changes at every level, right down to the bank branch. That’s hard to do when you’re preoccupied asserting economic might you may not have.
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My feeling is that the Chinese authorities are aware of the unsustainability of their economic model, understand how painful (perhaps impossible) the transition to a new model will be, and are trying to wring as many geopolitical gains as they can while the world still takes them seriously. Regardless, this decade and the next are going to be interesting.
 
During the Cold War economists and scholars and whatnot were saying that surely the USSR had demonstrated that Capitalism was dead, that the Russians were so much more educated, US doomed, etc.etc.etc.

Let's see how things play out.

You know what steps a company has to take when revenues aren't good? Downsizing. Let's see how China will manage to handle such a process now that the economy enters a decade of stagnation. The US can handle it a lot easier, and it has been downsizing for a fucking long time already, it's practically already at the most uncomfortable level it could be. China on the other hand will find the process much more painful.
 
TL4E said:
Meanwhile hundreds of millions in China continue to live in poverty.
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Exactly. I don't care much about China, for them or against them. I don't pay any attention to them really. But there are plenty of things to be pissed off about China for that are more important than piano music.
 
TL4E said:
Meanwhile hundreds of millions in China continue to live in poverty.
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Off-topic, but the World Bank estimates that it is under 140 million, even after updating it's model to the $1.25 rate. And that was 2-3 years ago.
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http://blogs.worldbank.org/eastasia...-confirm-china-s-leading-role-in-meeting-mdgs
 
Numbers like those are useless. When it comes to a country's well being you can't look at the numbers in percentage. You think if China had ten times the GDP and ten times its population it would be doing equally well?

It's much more difficult to steer a heavy ship when your steering is no different than one of a boat that is 1/3 your own's size.
 
Hah. This kind of pettiness is quite amusing. I'll never be able to understand the mentality that viscerally rejoices at these nationalist "victories."
 
TL4E said:
Meanwhile hundreds of millions in China continue to live in poverty.
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Actually, if their economic model can be lauded for anything it's its effectiveness in alleviating poverty on a massive level. That is an undeniable achievement. Where they go from here is the question.
 
duckroll said:
My Motherland is by no means an "anti-American" song of any nature. It is an insult to musicians and composers to attach such labels to a tune simply because it was written as part of a movie where sentiments were against America. Propaganda song? Maybe. Patriotic tune? Most certainly. Anti-American? Definitely not.
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People are all screwed up about music. I remember when LittleBigPlanet 1 got a song patched out because it set Quran verses to music, but it left in Prokofev's The Battle On The Ice. That song's by a controversial composer who made it the climax of a movie that's (amazing but) racist, ultranationalist, communist propaganda.

Humans are stupid.
 
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