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Desperado

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Great choral piece: Bogoroditse Devo by Sergei Rachmaninoff - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp82BXNwrWc

Singing this is damn near transcendence.

Water Night by Eric Whitacre - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pg0tuah-VA

This too.

Two of my favorites.

I just found some sheet music for Gymnopedie No 1 and while being technically very easy it was a delight to play!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6207518/Gymnopedie-No-1-Sheet-Music

Speaking of sheet music, check IMSLP for sheet music in the public domain.
 

mavs

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One of the things I love most in classical music is pieces composed as variations or pastiches on an earlier style. Some examples:

Ancient Airs and Dances by Ottorino Respighi (1919 transcription for piano) - Based on a number of 16th and 17th century strings compositions, one of them by the father of Galileo.

Suite Française, d'après Claude Gervaise by Francis Poulenc (1935) - The piece does not specifically reference works by the 16th century French composer Claude Gervaise (that I know of?), but the work was composed using Renaissance and Baroque forms. Begins with a jaunty tune, but has many contemplative parts. Also arranged for orchestra by the composer in 1939.

Le tombeau de Couperin by Maurice Ravel (1914-1917) - Named for the great French Baroque composer François Couperin. Composed in memory of friends who died in WWI. Also arranged for orchestra by the composer in 1919. [Amazing video performance of the Toccata here]

From Holberg's Time by Edvard Grieg (1884) - Composed in honor of the 17th century Danish philosopher and author Ludvig Holberg. Arranged for orchestra by the composer in 1885.

Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel by Johannes Brahms (1861) - This isn't exactly the same kind of work as the others, but it is great. It's also huge, most performances are around 25 minutes long. The transition from the last few variations into the fugue is one of the most amazing things I have ever heard.

I remember reading that Andres Segovia and Manuel Maria Ponce wrote a bunch of pieces for guitar and passed them off as lute works by various Baroque composers. Since they were both respected musicians, nobody discovered otherwise until they came clean years later. Apparently even after they admitted it, the works were still published under the false attributions. What a classic prank.

Ravel's Piano Trio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYS1vzklPvg
First movement, the other three are linked in succession on Youtube.

One of Ravel's best works. His consistency was amazing, I don't think I dislike anything he wrote.
 

Celine

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"If there is anyone who owes everything to Bach, it is God."
Emil Cioran

Eh eh Bach is godly.

In the past months I began to listen to italian Opera Lirica ( especially from 18th century period ).

If I can suggest some of my favorite:
Barbiere di Siviglia ( Rossini )
Cenerentola ( Rossini )
Norma ( Bellini )
Cavalleria Rusticana ( Mascagni )
Amico Fritz ( Mascagni )
I Pagliacci ( Leoncavallo )
Gianni Schicchi ( Puccini )
Turandot ( Puccini )

Yep, I skipped Verdi.

Some samples:
O del mio dolce ardor ( Gluck - Tebaldi )
Aria dei Gioielli ( Gounod - Tebaldi )
O Lola ch'ai di latti la cammisa ( Mascagni - Corelli )
No, no, Turiddu, rimani rimani ancora ( Mascagni - Di Stefano, Callas )
Casta Diva ( Bellini - Cerquetti )
Vesti la Giubba ( Leoncavallo - Pavarotti )
Se il mio nome saper voi bramate ( Rossini - Alva )
 

Amir0x

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I remember some academic inventing a word for this: frission.

Since Rach was mentioned, Give this version a listen too. I'm currently infatuated with Valentina Lisista's Playing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QB7ugJnHgs

I'm also re-learning Rach's prelude in c-sharp minor, it's a bit more manageable since I haven't played in a few years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKYkssqyYkc

And here's some lost copland for dessert:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/20

Ebert once wrote an article about frission, apparently a French construct. Means, like, a brief, intense feeling of overwhelming emotion. I agree it's a good word for it.
 

thomaser

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eh, one night bump to see if anyone has any good shit to share (maybe I can find new stuff), and then i'll let this thread die. Nobody loves zee classics anymore! *sigh*

Well, I started writing a long list of favourites and recommendations, but it got so long and I had so much left to write about that I realized I wouldn't finish it, and I just abandoned it.

Classical music is just too big a field to write concisely about. The more I listen and buy, the more it opens up. There is something in there for everyone, no matter which kind of music they normally like. I think there's a little problem in that newcomers are often recommended the same small number of works, like Albinoni's Adagio (which wasn't written by Albinoni at all) or Pachelbel's Canon. Classical music is so much more than those safe little ditties. And the interpretation is of great importance. Try listening to a selection of Vivaldi's "Four Seasons" violin concertos by a no-name orchestra. Pleasant and probably dull. Then listen to the same music played by Il Giardino Armonico or by Amandine Beyer with Gli Incogniti. It's of another world.

I have had a long number of favourite composers. Borodin, Grieg, Debussy, Holst, Bach, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Brahms, Shostakovich, Prokofiev... it changes all the time. Right now, I'm exploring more unknown composers like Franz Schmidt, Charles Villiers Stanford, Percy Grainger and Paul Dessau.

My collection is at just under 4700 cds (a great number of them in big boxes, like the complete Mozart and Bach-boxes from Brilliant Classics). It's not so expensive if you take advantage of box-sets and sales. When shopping for new composers, I tend to go for their symphonies and string quartets first, since I feel those often show the composer's true strenghts. If I like them, I continue with their concertos, piano works and other chamber works. I'm not too keen on operas, but still have most of the best known ones.
 
^ Yeah I have the same problem. Classical music is just way too wide to pinpoint specific favorites. My mother went to New England Conservatory of Music as a concert pianist, so my house was FILLED with classical music day & night. Even our beagle's name was Schubert. My appreciation of music was the greatest gift I've ever received.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

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jchap

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My favorite piece is the solo piano transcription of Totentanz (a play on the Dies Irae medieval hymmn) by Franz Liszt. I really wish there was a recording of Liszt himself playing it :(

It is incredibly difficult to perform so there aren't a ton of great recordings. This one by Arnoldo Cohen is quite good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emb0oBC8hhY&feature=BFa&list=FLIGG8NhGU_Nx8WKosKijZRA&lf=mh_lolz

Overall, Liszt is my favorite composer and I mainly prefer piano pieces over symphonies.
 

Orgen

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Yeah it's minimalist like that but he throws some different elements in sometimes. Like this is one of my favs:

Eros

Have you heard of Kashiwa Daisuke?

April.#19

Rabbit's Quartet

April.#07

It has different elements and the "progressive" feeling like the Eros song IMO (April.#19 for sure). Anyway, check his work because is amazing.

Another similar artists (more with other work of Einaudi) you should check:

Helen Jane Long:

Embers

Expression

Mia Jang:

Water Circles

Floating
 

thomaser

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^ Yeah I have the same problem. Classical music is just way too wide to pinpoint specific favorites. My mother went to New England Conservatory of Music as a concert pianist, so my house was FILLED with classical music day & night. My appreciation of music was the greatest gift I've ever received.

Sounds great! I wish I had lots of music to listen to when I was a kid, too. Didn't start on classical until I was 25 or so.

I can try making a little list, though. Some of the works that have been most important to me (all links are to the first movement if it's a bigger work):

Grieg: String Quartet no.1. This just feels like home.
Brahms: Piano Quintet
Brahms: Symphony no.4 (borrowing the great link someone posted on the first page)
Schumann: Piano Quintet
Bach: Concerto for two violins.
Reich: Music for 18 musicians
Pärt: Fratres. This piece exists in many variations. This is for cello and piano, and there are also versions for violin and piano, 8 cellos, string orchestra and percussion, wind ensemble and many more. All are great.
Shostakovich: String Quartet no.8. This is just devastating music.
Schubert: Piano Trio no.2. So sad and beautiful...
Schubert: String Quartet no.14 "Death and the Maiden".
Tchaikovsky: Symphony no.4. The opening to this is just amazing.
Tchaikovsky: Piano Trio.
Prokofiev: Piano Concerto no.3. Some of the most energetic and joyful music I know...
Prokofiev: Piano Concerto no.2. ... and this is the complete opposite.
Frank Martin: Petite Symphonie Concertante. One of my favourite lesser known works.
Dvorak: Cello Concerto.
Sibelius: Violin Concerto.
Berg: Piano Sonata. Beware: 12-tone music!
Golijov: Ainadamar. One of the few operas I like.
Debussy: Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun. Such a strange piece. Doesn't really go anywhere, but is impossibly gorgeous anyway.
 

flyover

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There's so much good stuff listed in this thread -- from Vivaldi to Pärt.

But if I had to listen to one person's music for the rest of my life, it would be British composer Ralph Vaughan Williams (Wikipedia).

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He wrote my single favorite piece of music, "Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis" (which can be heard briefly in the movie Master and Commander):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJ_mDc39u0

The slow-build throughout the second movement of his second symphony (the "London Symphony") is gorgeous:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsT0KFZZ3lM

And he composed what's probably the most beautiful choral work I've ever heard, "Serenade to Music (for 16 solo voices and orchestra)":
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPteIR4Qaog
 

ronito

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I know I keep posting it but I still haven't found anything (outside of Beethoven's late quartets/9th) that stands up to Bach's St. Matthew's Passion. 2 and a half hours of bliss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_LLFfFXaUA

Lately I've been on a huge Smetana kick. Ma vlast is wonderful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llOWInx2taE

When it comes to instrument mastery I don't think anyone did it better than Listz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfWWFQ7j82M&feature=related

For more modern stuff Piazolla's just awesome for someone who doesn't know much about modern classical music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i53PKYzkZOQ

Brouwer if you're more used to modern classical stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzjMQwT1vBk&feature=related

And I've also been on a huge Tan Dun kick. He has a lot of critics but I think he's up there with Krouse, Tower and Carter as our generation's most important composers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sxe5GkwXrQ
 

ronito

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I like Vaughn Williams. I especially love what he did for English music. But really I've never considered him as one of my top composers. I appreciate what he did but I just never "got it"
 

madmook

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Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is my favorite classical piece.

Besides that, I'm just a casual dummy and can't be bothered to really remember any other names or whatnot, though I do like the classical music genre overall.
 

thomaser

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I know I keep posting it but I still haven't found anything (outside of Beethoven's late quartets/9th) that stands up to Bach's St. Matthew's Passion. 2 and a half hours of bliss.

I always liked the St. John Passion best, but that's mostly because of the awesome opening. I tend to lose concentration after a while with these long religious works, so the openings are what I remember best.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Very nice thread, gonna have a look and listen to all the suggestions.
 

thomaser

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Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is my favorite classical piece.

Besides that, I'm just a casual dummy and can't be bothered to really remember any other names or whatnot, though I do like the classical music genre overall.

That comes with time, just keep listening. It's all very hard to keep track of in the beginning. Just concentrate on your favourite works and branch out from them, and you'll remember more and more with no effort.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

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Oh, if it ain't on Violin or Cello. It's shite.

Yeah, Chopin can suck it.
 

Venfayth

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I haven't listened to this specific recording yet, it's just the only one I could find on youtube that isn't broken into parts:

Isle of the Dead - Rachmaninov

It's haunting and beautiful. PLUS, it's written largely in 5/4, the whole opening is supposed to feel like rowing.
 

ronito

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I always liked the St. John Passion best, but that's mostly because of the awesome opening. I tend to lose concentration after a while with these long religious works, so the openings are what I remember best.

St. John's passion is better in a different way. Bach really got experimental and there's all kinds of elements in it that wouldn't be out of place in romantic, impressionist or even post modern music.

I always viewed St. Matthew's Passion as Bach playing around with symbolism (man I could write pages about the symbolism in that piece) and St. John's as Bach playing around with music in general.
 

ymmv

Banned
Michael Nyman - The Masque (from the Prospero's Books soundtrack)

This music is from the final 12 minutes of Peter Greenaway's "Prospero's Books". I saw this movie with a friend who while watching it made abundantly clear he was both bored and confused, and when this piece was used for a 12 minutes long wedding scene full of opera vocals and wild visualss he only wanted to leave. I on the other hand was completely entranced by the images and in particular Michael Nyman's mix of classical and modern orchestral music.

Nyman's opera "Noises, Sounds & Sweet Airs" is also inspired by Shakespeare's The Tempest and is written in the same style as the Propero's Books soundtrack.
 

thomaser

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St. John's passion is better in a different way. Bach really got experimental and there's all kinds of elements in it that wouldn't be out of place in romantic, impressionist or even post modern music.

I always viewed St. Matthew's Passion as Bach playing around with symbolism (man I could write pages about the symbolism in that piece) and St. John's as Bach playing around with music in general.

Didn't he play around with visual symbolism in the notes in one of his large works? Notes arranged in cross-shapes, and so on. I don't think that was used much again before the 20th century.
 

ctrayne

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Romantic Era is my favorite, and Rachmaninoff is my homie. I always go back to his work when I get burned out from exploring new music.

Lately been enjoying some Latin American stuff in addition to the usual British and Russian stuff I enjoy. Arturo Márquez's Danzons are awesome.
 

flyover

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Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is my favorite classical piece.

Besides that, I'm just a casual dummy and can't be bothered to really remember any other names or whatnot, though I do like the classical music genre overall.

Nothing wrong with that. You picked a good place to start, with the Moonlight Sonata.

A good way to get started with classical music on the cheap is to go to Amazon and search their "99..." collections (just put the terms "99" and "Classical" in the search box).

Not always the best or most complete recordings -- but they're cheap and good. Sometimes, they go on sale for a mere buck or two. The best starting point -- just to find out what you like -- may be "The 99 Most Essential Classical Masterpieces." It's got a little of everything.

http://www.amazon.com/Most-Essential-Pieces-Classical-Music/dp/B0034E7MK0/
 

Nista

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Classical music is one of the main reasons I keep the XM radio in my car. Nothing like driving a convertible on winding, tree-lined roads with some rousing Liszt or Rachmaninov. It's just the right kind of music to evoke certain moods in me.

I guess I should thank my music teachers back in the day for instilling a love of music that isn't all auto-tuned fluff.
 

ronito

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Didn't he play around with visual symbolism in the notes in one of his large works? Notes arranged in cross-shapes, and so on. I don't think that was used much again before the 20th century.

Yeah. Like in the Kruezigen fugue (where the choir is condemning Jesus to crucifiction the notes line up in a cross. When the choir is singing about sleep the sopranos dip below the altos and tenors beneath the bass and voilins under violas and so on. Certain words are always sung at a certain interval and so forth.
 

Llyranor

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my second biggest regret in life is never learning how to play an instrument. I can't imagine the type of emotions it takes out of a musician to play some of these powerful pieces. There must be some sort of connection that transcends words.
Dude, it's never too late. I'm pretty old, with zero musical training beforehand. My love for classical made me finally get off my arse this summer and get some violin lessons (and learning music theory at the same time). It's a few months in now, and the violin doesn't sound like a house full of cats scratching on the blackboard anymore. I might never get to a level where I'd sound like a professional player, and it's extremely hard work. But the satisfaction is absolutely worth it. I can read enough music and play enough notes that I can read off and some of my favorite parts of some classical pieces and it'll sound something familiar (though I'm not saying it sounds nice!).
 

Droplet

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Holst- The Planets - Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity

Chopin- Revolutionary Etude

Rimsky-Korsakov- Russian Easter Overture

Hindemith- Symphonic Metamorphosis

I've probably got a lot more but those are the first that come to mind. Dvorak especially is one of my favorites, I just can't think of a single thing aside from New World at the moment.

Amirox said:
my second biggest regret in life is never learning how to play an instrument. I can't imagine the type of emotions it takes out of a musician to play some of these powerful pieces. There must be some sort of connection that transcends words.

Well, it's difficult to say. There are times where I feel like I'm "riding the wave", which is a bit like that, where everything just lines up perfectly and you just play. But most times, it's up to the musician to create the emotions of the piece. They're not just there inherently. There's just so much interpretation that you (or the conductor) have to do. There are times you'd play it one way, but you're told to play it another, and things just get kind of complicated. I guess I'd try to say it's the job of the musician to deliver the emotion, not to feel it themselves. It's a tricky trade.
 

thomaser

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Dvorak especially is one of my favorites, I just can't think of a single thing aside from New World at the moment.

The cello concerto! It's THE biggest cello concerto, and how many other genres can you name that has a "THE biggest" work?

Also:
- The 12th string quartet, the "American".
- The "Dumky" piano trio.
- The violin concerto. The first movement is great, and the fourth movement is the happiest work of music I know of. It's impossible to hear this and not get into a great mood!
- The Water Goblin, a great symphonic poem.
- His other symphonies are also very, very good. The 9th gets all the attention, but it isn't that much better than the others. For example, the bittersweet waltz in the third movement of the 8th symphony. Or the deliciously dramatic opening to the 7th.
- The Slavonic Dances. There are 16 of them. The second is one of my favourites.
 

Llyranor

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Perhaps a bunch of pieces people are less familiar with:

I present to you, THE ORGAN SYMPHONY! (St-Saen's 3rd Symphony)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCKiZRWyv20
How to make a symphony more epic? Bring in an organ!

Handel's Passacaglia, arranged by Halvorsen for Violin & Viola: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoGErup6-xk
Great intensity and power elicited by just 2 instruments.

Schumann's Violin Concerto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYjKgYkoLFw
This was only performed 80 years after it was written because Schumann's surrounding deemed it as showing elements of madness (he tried to commit suicide the year after and then spent the rest of his short days in an asylum). I don't know why, it's beautiful.

Beethoven's 15th String Quartet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9gdlRyaeGM
His 3rd movement (Molto Adagio) was written after he had recovered from an illness where he was bedridden for a month and expected to not make it. He apparently dubbed the movement "Holy song of thanks ('Heiliger dankgesang') to the divinity, from one made well." I think the moment from 4:08-4:45 showcases it well.

Vivaldi's La Stravaganza, Op4/12, 2nd Movement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx1ctiC9cH8
Vivaldi wrote more than the 4 Seasons. And while some of his concertos may sound similar to each other, there are a lot of gems out there. And people say Baroque is too mechanical and unemotional, pfft. I particularly love this movement.

And lastly, Bach's Art of Fugue, Contrapunctus XIV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDSAXtsDB5k Solo Keyboard version (Glenn Gould)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbM3VTIvOBk (string quartet)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13AAyKNW108 (string orchestra - my favorite)
The way the music just *ends* mid-sentence is really chilling. Bach never finished this work.

needs more classical humor:
I'm not saying I like the piece that much, but the idea and title are hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4gaU9YERv0
 
There is a right way and a wrong way to listen to classical music, by the way. Obviously, use what you can get, but to really listen to the music... well, go live. But minus that, utilize the best sound equipment you have and blast it. Classical Music more than any other form of music is almost like a thought experiment; interpretations of intent can vary so dramatically as to be nearly infinite. Let the sounds wash over you. Try to appreciate the different layers of the composition, each time you listen focusing on a new aspect. It's a chill down your back. A flush of your face. A tingling. Certain compositions are of such power that hearing them is quite nearly a spiritual experience. With the proper equipment at the proper volume, it's just life affirming.

This is absolutely true, and please, for the love of God, don't just listen to some cheap "The most beautiful Classical pieces" (or whatever they're called) compilations. They usually just consist of the overplayed stuff almost everyone knows anyways and the interpreters are usually not ideal. (there are some good compilations of course, but if you look for some Classical piece on Spotify for instance, you'll often find the most popular result to be from some cheap compilation and that kind of bugs me) Usually, looking for a piece on Amazon or Wikipedia (usually under "notable interpretations") will yield good results. Soon, you'll have a list of go-to names of interpreters that you can trust with a lot of stuff.

On the actual music.. as already mentioned, there's just so much stuff. The history of Classical music actually begins with the Gregorian chant, 10th century. It's really a lifetime worth of music (or more), and that can be a little intimidating at first, but also awesome because you can basically listen to new music whenever you feel like it and almost all of it (that people still listen to nowadays) is great music.

I've recently started listening to Brahms' chamber music a lot more. If you have Spotify, This is the album I'm listening to right now. (the Amadeus Quartet's recordings of Brahms complete String Quartets, Quintets and Sextets) I'm currently enjoying the Clarinet Quintet and the second String Quintet a lot. (that Cello solo at the start is godly)
 

ronito

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This is absolutely true, and please, for the love of God, don't just listen to some cheap "The most beautiful Classical pieces" (or whatever they're called) compilations. They usually just consist of the overplayed stuff almost everyone knows anyways and the interpreters are usually not ideal. (there are some good compilations of course, but if you look for some Classical piece on Spotify for instance, you'll often find the most popular result to be from some cheap compilation and that kind of bugs me) Usually, looking for a piece on Amazon or Wikipedia (usually under "notable interpretations") will yield good results. Soon, you'll have a list of go-to names of interpreters that you can trust with a lot of stuff.

On the actual music.. as already mentioned, there's just so much stuff. The history of Classical music actually begins with the Gregorian chant, 10th century. It's really a lifetime worth of music (or more), and that can be a little intimidating at first, but also awesome because you can basically listen to new music whenever you feel like it and almost all of it (that people still listen to nowadays) is great music.

I've recently started listening to Brahms' chamber music a lot more. If you have Spotify, This is the album I'm listening to right now. (the Amadeus Quartet's recordings of Brahms complete String Quartets, Quintets and Sextets) I'm currently enjoying the Clarinet Quintet and the second String Quintet a lot. (that Cello solo at the start is godly)
I totally disagree. There's a reason those compilations sell well, it's because their pieces that everyone should know. They'll introduce you to more names than going some hipster route, and a lot of times they're top talent recorded. They're a perfectly fine way to get into classical music.
 
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