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CNN: First charges filed in Mueller investigation

Kimawolf

Member
The talk is these charges are to show others they are serious and to use it as leverage to get actual information on their primary function. No way Don Jr or Kushner are not gonna get pinched.
 

Sophist

Member
I am reading the indictment; it seems to have nothing to do with trump campaign. It's about manafort's activities with Ukraine and Yanukovich.
 

Kimawolf

Member
I am reading the indictment; it seems to have nothing to do with trump campaign. It's about manafort's activities with Ukraine and Yanukovich.
I think the key therevis it goes up into their time with his campaign and for Rick his time he spent in the whitehouse.

And lets be honest... its not good to have yoyr campaign manager accused of commiting crimes against the U.S. while managing all aspects pf your campaign.
 

Sophist

Member
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https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download
 

Kimawolf

Member
CNN is saying they heard on background WH aides telling them this has nothing to do with Trump or his campaign and "they were bad guys when they came in and they were bad guys when they left".

Lol that is NOT a good statement to make. What does it say about your squad of that's what you believe?
 

Am_I_Evil

Member
CNN is saying they heard on background WH aides telling them this has nothing to do with Trump or his campaign and "they were bad guys when they came in and they were bad guys when they left".

Lol that is NOT a good statement to make. What does it say about your squad of that's what you believe?

"bad when they came in"

so...your fault then? i mean someone had to hire them right?
 

otake

Doesn't know that "You" is used in both the singular and plural
This is force retirement to them. Should they go to jail, they'll get 2-5 years, get out and live off all that hidden money. These guys lose insofar as they don't get to make anymore money.....

Wonder if Trump will pardon them.
 
Trump has already responded on Twitter, claiming Manafort's activity was years before his campaign. 2016 money laundering isn't years ago.

The third man lying to the FBI (that just dropped above) was in Jan 2017.
 

Kimawolf

Member
Trump has already responded on Twitter, claiming Manafort's activity was years before his campaign. 2016 money laundering isn't years ago.

The third man lying to the FBI (that just dropped above) was in Jan 2017.
Yeah 2016 wasnt years ago. That twitter statement is nonsense. And with George pleading guilty to lying you now have to ask... lying about what exactly?
 

norinrad

Member
What are the charges going to be? I think these people are looking at life or at least 20 years behind bars? Unless they have some really powerful friends.
 

Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
Does the US still execute traitors?

Also, I am still not getting my hopes up. This could be a ploy by a stalled investigation to drum up some evidence. We shall see though.

Even if it does lead to a bombshell Trump wont see a cell. He will resign and then be pardoned by whomever ends up president (Pence is first in line). This dance has happened before (nixon).
 

Dirca

Member
Does the US still execute traitors?

Also, I am still not getting my hopes up. This could be a ploy by a stalled investigation to drum up some evidence. We shall see though.
Lololol...are you serious? May want to read up on this stuff....
 
Is anyone surprised a dumbass and his group of dumbasses don't know how to fight their way out of this and make coherent statements that don't make themselves look even more dumb?

They feel the noose tightening.
 

Kimawolf

Member
Patiently waiting on Trump's tweet spree
He would be a fool to do so. A complete fool. This is the time for silence. One of your campaign foreign affairs folks pled guilty to lying to the FBI and altering facebook to hide Russian conversations. They need to smash his phone to bits.

But it won't happen.
 
Is anyone surprised a dumbass and his group of dumbasses don't know how to fight their way out of this and make coherent statements that don't make themselves look even more dumb?

They feel the noose tightening.

There's never been a situation where Trump had people care about his crimes and abuse, or had anyone actually hold him accountable when they did. It appears as stupidity, but he does not live in a world where there are consequences. Shit, he sold multi million dollar properties to foreign buyers and ran casinos and people are still like 'no, he would never launder money'.
 

Dirca

Member
which part? and where?
Google is your friend. May also want to read up on what constitutes treason.

Not condoning their acts, but the whole thought of execution that has been brought up every now and then since the investigation began is beyond ignorant.
 
He would be a fool to do so. A complete fool. This is the time for silence. One of your campaign foreign affairs folks pled guilty to lying to the FBI and altering facebook to hide Russian conversations. They need to smash his phone to bits.

But it won't happen.

Trump tweeted this morning about Manafort being way before his campaign (fact check: 2016 money laundering was during the campaign) and "No collusion!", just two minutes before George's confession hit the web.
 
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The senior campaign official being mentioned here is either Kellyanne Conway (officially announced as campaign manager July 1st), Corey Lewandowski (officially stepped down June 20th), or Bannon himself.

Edit: Or obviously Manafort, who was still with the campaign then.
 
There's never been a situation where Trump had people care about his crimes and abuse, or had anyone actually hold him accountable when they did. It appears as stupidity, but he does not live in a world where there are consequences. ****, he sold multi million dollar properties to foreign buyers and ran casinos and people are still like 'no, he would never launder money'.

Still waiting on them tax returns.
 

Donos

Member
Trump is probably fighting 2 secret service agents right now who have the order to hold him away from tweeting something Stupid.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Still waiting on them tax returns.

The rumors were that Mueller got them months ago.

Lol you will be waiting for some time. Its just crazy je would tweet what he dod a minute before the guilty plea broke. Absolutely insane.

It will be interesting to watch the various spins between these big drops. This guilty plea puts them on notice that anything being said now and for months is possibly available to the investigators. On all platforms. Perhaps even in person meetings.
 

Alebrije

Member
Putin and his Troy horse exploited the weakness of a nation the same way US has been doing on other countries. No matter how this end, Rusia won months ago.
 
Putin and his Troy horse exploited the weakness of a nation the same way US has been doing on other countries. No matter how this end, Rusia won months ago.

We are a nation of laws and we elected a president who has no respect for the rule of law and has spent his life abusing the legal system for personal benefit. Russia is attempting to expose the US. I think Putin is confident that we are not what we say we are to the world.
 
George was quietly arrested on July 7th and has been a willing FBI informant since then.

No one leaked his arrest or his direct implication of Manafort for 3 months.
 

norm9

Member
Got em. Manafort was the most obvious indictment with the morning wake up call from the feds a while back.

Looking forward to seeing everyone scurrying for cover. And more Hillary blaming.
 
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