"i want to see the world burn for the lulz"
CNN/ORC Poll: Trump 44%, Clinton 39%, Johnson 9%, Stein 3%
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"i want to see the world burn for the lulz"
ArchedThunder
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Don't worry. We had faith your country would do the right thing. And you did. You passed Brexit.
Have faith we'll do the right thing. Trump will win with 51% if he needs to. But have faith in us.
We'll not only make "America great again!", we'll "Make the Earth great again."
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These posts make me want to vomit.
The thing with Trump is that he will definitely squeeze out every white vote there is to get plus some.
Too early to get concerned, let's see where things stand in September.
The annoying people voting third party that share in liberal interests almost make me want trump to win. Just so they can see their point being made by allowing trump to send us back 20 years in progress
This really is a point of potential change for the US. LBGT rights. Black Lives Matter. Muslim paranoia. Openings in the Supreme Court. Shutting down trump shows that these things matter. Allowing him to win because you are so annoyed with Hillary proves that you give no shits about the policies behind the candidate, and honestly are part of the problem.
At least with trump I understand that there are people behind what he actually says. With Clinton, despite pushing the liberal ideals that liberals are supposed to want, people look at her character and stop giving a shit about policy. It's really interesting
This really is a point of potential change for the US. LBGT rights. Black Lives Matter. Muslim paranoia. Openings in the Supreme Court. Shutting down trump shows that these things matter. Allowing him to win because you are so annoyed with Hillary proves that you give no shits about the policies behind the candidate, and honestly are part of the problem.
At least with trump I understand that there are people behind what he actually says. With Clinton, despite pushing the liberal ideals that liberals are supposed to want, people look at her character and stop giving a shit about policy. It's really interesting
And people here were mad at Hil for not "shaking it up" with a more radical VP pick. Sheesh.
I've been a Hilary supporter from the beginning of the race even when Bernie was hot, but the smug arrogance people display non-stop on here, and the lack of awareness of how much of a bubble we are in and how different so much of the country feels, is the very reason that cooler heads may not prevail in November. Start realizing the situation we're in here, and stop shitting on all opposing points of view, and stop trying to tell people their opinions are not valid, because that is exactly why we're in the situation we're in, and if you keep doing it the amount of people turned off by the left will outnumber the amount of people who would've otherwise been common sense, dispassionate voters that could've easily been shown why they should vote for what you think is the right choice.
Convince people, don't shut them down, or you will be in for a rude awakening.
I've been a Hilary supporter from the beginning of the race even when Bernie was hot, but the smug arrogance people display non-stop on here, and the lack of awareness of how much of a bubble we are in and how different so much of the country feels, is the very reason that cooler heads may not prevail in November. Start realizing the situation we're in here, and stop shitting on all opposing points of view, and stop trying to tell people their opinions are not valid, because that is exactly why we're in the situation we're in, and if you keep doing it the amount of people turned off by the left will outnumber the amount of people who would've otherwise been common sense, dispassionate voters that could've easily been shown why they should vote for what you think is the right choice.
Convince people, don't shut them down, or you will be in for a rude awakening.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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Is that when the first debate of Trump vs Clinton happen? I so want her to crush him live on TV so that people can finally open their eyes. Forget about her whole email fiasco, you think that's bad? Wait until you see what Trump does if he's president.
Melkezadek
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I get what you're saying but people don't want to be convinced. The facts don't matter. Policy doesn't matter. None of that matters.
They don't trust her, so fuck me and everyone else in this country.
Yes blame them and not the candidate with the worst favorability rating in history
Always a scapegoat ready
Jawbreaker
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A 2% bump would be in line with what Romney got post-2012 RNC.
eBay Huckster
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also just a friendly reminder that john mccain, who lost by 7.3%, received a post-convention bounce of nearly ten points
teruterubozu
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Truth is stranger than fiction so let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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He will call her a stupid dumb bitch and his poll numbers will rise.
Melkezadek
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It's true, they didn't do a great job of it in the primaries. But I'm hoping they get some Obama/Sanders people (campaigns with experience in getting younger voters out) in there to make a difference.
But at the end of the day, there's only so much you can do. As seen in this very thread, there are always deranged, privileged and selfish young people who just want to see it all burn.
And if we're really gonna freak out about the poll. Analyze it. What are the cross-tabs? Where did he make gains? Where/who is she not doing well? Not saying you unskew them, but let's see who's voting for him and why right now
Put some perspective on this.
eBay Huckster
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yep. seems mostly in line with what we're seeing in the aggregate so far, too (just need PPP and ABC to pitch in at this point)
This hyperbole doesn't help. He will be checked enough and be unable to actually do that. What he will do guaranteed is appoint very conservative Supreme Court justices, and continue his divisive rhetoric that got him elected
Remember Obama stating he is for gay marriage? Won't be hearing that anymore for sure
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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WhiteRabbitEXE
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fixed
eBay Huckster
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how about instead of yet another thread full of sniping bullshit amongst people ostensibly on the left mixed in with absolute panic because the election is tomorrow, we maybe pay attention to what the people who are running statistical models to very great effect are saying
ArchedThunder
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Hillary should get Obama and Sanders themselves to do plenty of talks to try and convince people. I really hope they both have great speeches at the DNC this week.
I don't believe that for a second. You really think the leader of a populist nationalist movement is going to abide by the rule of law? Follow the Constitution? It's all just paper to this madman.
Also, people said the same about every fucking dictator before they came to power.
Hickbilly Deluxe
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Much easier to just sit back, call them any number of adjectives that are bad, and sit back and act like a smug jackass thinking they did the right thing while the other side entrenches themselves further in their beliefs. Sure it almost never works and actually does more harm than good, but it makes them feel better, so why not?
maabus1999
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If you look at the age breakdowns and gender this whole almost seems Tailored to Trump. They didn't get enough respondents under age 34 to even score them and the under 45 crowd had an 8.5% margin of error which shows a very small sample size
Epsilon-delta
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Bernie-or-Bust people are insignificant and most likely wouldn't have voted anyways.
But I can see you already have an excuse lined up in your pocket if Trump were to win.
IAmAnAgnostic
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If Hillary does not regain the lead after the convention, then you should be worried.. As for now, Trump got his bump from the Republican convention.
eBay Huckster
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they also had that in their last poll, though
the real wonky things in this are the breakdowns for women and non-whites, but, like, we need more polling to confirm whether this is an outlier on those fronts
and also another month so we're out of the convention noise machine, because at this point the polling average has absurd variance relative to final results
September is when life gets back to normal and summer is over. Kids will be back in school and the election cycle will ramp up.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
What's the most likely scenario of a Trump precidency? Dollar at a new low, unemployrment higher than the last couple of decades, new wars, more terrorist attacks, border wall, hurt foreign relations, more racism, higher crime rate and government approved torture? Is this the new-found greatness?
I just hope it isn't the spark for WW3.
I just hope it isn't the spark for WW3.
The vote.
Subpar Scrub
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Even he doesn't know. I feel like he expected to lose early on and now he's just winging it for the publicity or power.
Ahh okay, I hadn't heard that term used to refer to voting before.
The Trump presidency would be one hilarious scandal after another. He would most likely be impeached.
iRAWRasaurus
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That ideology unifies the base. Even if they hate trump, they can't hate the relentless push of republican values. Hate trump as a person? Who cares, we are repelling gay marriage!
Democrats are too fractured in what they think is morally correct , and battle within themselves. Did Clinton and Bernie vote the same way most of the time? Who cares, she is morally bankrupt in ways I cannot support so I'm voting Johnson! That'll show em!
Melkezadek
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Nice edit and yes I will partly blame the people whose heads are so far up their ass that they can't see that Trump cannot be in the White House. Their dreams of a more progressive country go right out the window because they didn't get their savior.
And I voted for Bernie in the primaries. I'm no Hillary fanboy. I just know what it means for everyone (not a straight Christian white male ) if Trump is in office. It's that fucking simple.
Trump isn't and cannot be a dictator
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