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CNN Wonders: "Can the Ku Klux Klan Rebrand?" Consults "Brand Experts" (Not the Onion)

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/19/us/jewish-center-shootings-kkk-rebranding/?c=&page=0

(CNN) -- Pointy hats, white robes, crosses burning, bodies hanging from trees.
The images of the Ku Klux Klan are reminders of the nation's ugliest moments from the Civil War through the struggle for racial equality in the 1960s.

Last Sunday, the world was confronted with another image of the Klan: 73-year-old Frazier Glenn Cross, a white supremacist and avowed anti-Semite, in the back of a police car, spitting, "Heil Hitler!"

When his alleged rampage at two Jewish institutions in suburban Kansas City, Kansas, was over, three people were shot dead -- a teenage boy and his grandfather along with a woman who worked with visually impaired children.

The carnage was devastating to many. Imperial Wizard Frank Ancona was upset, too.
"What this guy just did set back everything I've been trying to do for years," said Ancona, who leads the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

CNN tracked Ancona down on Twitter, where he has 840 followers, after he and other self-professed hate group leaders denounced the shootings in interviews with USA Today and CNN affiliate WDAF in Kansas City, Missouri.

"I believe in racial separation but it doesn't have to be violent," he told CNN. "People in the Klan are professional people, business people, working types. We are a legitimate organization."

Cross, who founded the Carolina Knights of the KKK in the 1980s, went "rogue," Ancona said.

Charged with capital murder and first-degree premeditated murder, Cross did not enter a plea at his first court appearance. He requested a court appointed attorney and is scheduled to be back in court later this month.

Ancona, who lives in Missouri, insists there's a new Klan for modern times -- a Klan that's "about educating people to our ideas and getting people to see our point of view to ... help change things."

He said he and those like him can spread that message without violence -- a sort of rebranding of the Klan.

The idea may sound absurd, but is it conceivable?
[OP NOTE: NO, NO ITS NOT, SHUT UP CNN]
No, say top marketing experts, brand gurus and historians -- and for many reasons.
The Klan could change its name, get a smooth-talking spokesperson, replace the robes with suits and take off those ridiculous hats, but underneath, people would recognize its message is the same.

"They stand for hatred; they always have," said Atlanta-based brand consultant Laura Ries. "Maybe they don't believe in shooting up a center for Jewish people, but they still support beliefs that are beyond the scope of understanding for most people and certainly the freedom and equality our country believes in."

Other experts raised the question: If the Klan isn't violent, what's the point?
"What would you be left with? Benign racism?" asked Jelani Cobb, director of the Africana Studies Institute at the University of Connecticut.

The victims of the shooting rampage, Cobb noted, were not Jewish. One was Catholic and two were Methodist.

"In the most basic sense, the fact that the people who were killed were not Jews drives home Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s point that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere," he said. "It's the most horrible metaphor for the fact that we are all impacted by the legacy of hate, even when it's not specifically directed at the group to which we belong."

Even if the modern KKK at large distances itself from this supposedly "rogue" element, Cobb said, that doesn't make up for the group's past.

"Violence and racial intimidation were the KKK's raison d'etre. They're not simply a controversial civic organization. If in fact they reject violence, the only honest way of establishing that would be to do restorative work for the incredible damage their history of violence has already done," he said. "No sensible person is going to wait around for that to happen."

Disorganized discrimination

From a sheer marketing perspective, the lack of central leadership poses more problems for the KKK if it's serious about revamping its image. Just look at the Catholic Church, Ries said.

"The KKK doesn't have a Pope. Look at what that guy has done. You have to have a leader like that to make people believe a change has happened," she said.
Without a clear leader, marketing experts said, crafting and conveying a spin-friendly message is impossible.

That was evident the minute members of the "new" Klan denounced the shootings. Soon after Ancona spoke to reporters, other self-described "real" Klansmen began attacking him online for not adhering to authentic Klan doctrine.

"This movement is a hodgepodge of little groups that, as often as they attack their enemies, attack one another," said Mark Potok, a spokesman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups.

He estimates there are about 8,000 KKK members nationwide.
"To call these guys disorganized," he said, "doesn't quite do it."
Potok pointed to a 2013 rally in Memphis, Tennessee, that drew about 75 Klan members. They arrived in their typical get-up to protest the city's move to rename three city parks that honored Confederate leaders.

Then it got confusing and weird.

Another group of Klansmen showed up to protest the first Klan group, according to Potok and a local media report.

The second Klan group claimed to be about nonviolence and actually teamed with a black Crips street gang. The second group of Klansmen wanted people to know they were the real deal, the ones everyone should listen to, Potok recounted.

Bullhorns apparently belonging to the first KKK group died shortly after their gathering began. Memphis' Commercial Appeal reported that their chants of "white power" were barely audible over the approximately 1,000 folks who showed up to protest racial intolerance.

A Klansman with a Twitter account

Potok doesn't put much weight in the Klan's condemnation of the Jewish center shootings, because it's not the first time hate groups have done that. They did it after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing orchestrated by militia sympathizer Timothy McVeigh and after a white supremacist killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012, he said.

"There's a method to doing that. By publicly saying, 'Oh, not us; we don't do that,' they think they're protecting themselves against law enforcement zeroing in on them or from us suing them," Potok said. "That doesn't work, but they believe that."


Throughout CNN's interview, Ancona was cordial and repeatedly said he wanted to speak with media about the Klan's message. He won't be able to divulge too many operational details of his group, he said, because fraternal rites and rituals bar him from discussing exactly what they do.

Ancona explained that he's in his second four-year term as imperial wizard, elected by state Klan group's leaders, known as grand dragons. To get their message out, the Traditionalist Knights of the KKK wear their usual attire and stand on roadsides handing out flyers.

They also have a Web page, and they use Twitter and occasionally LinkedIn, where Ancona promotes "working together as a team and a unit" to "strive to increase awareness of the destruction of our constitutional rights and the plight of the White race in America."

"Facebook keeps deleting my posts," he said.

Ancona's branch of the KKK has a toll-free hotline that asks callers to press 1 if they would like an information packet, 2 for media inquiries, or 3 to talk to a member of the organization.


An outgoing voice mail explains the group is "unapologetically committed to the interests and values of the white race. We are determined to maintain and enrich our cultural and racial heritage. White people will simply not buy the equality propaganda anymore and have begun to doubt some of the anti-Klan hysteria that they have been fed in school and from TV and movies."

Rhetoric and reaction

Dan Hill, a marketing expert who specializes in how consumers react emotionally to advertisements, said there can probably never be a Klan rebranding.

"Disney is happiness. Nike is you're proud you ran the race. The Ayran Brotherhood -- that's somewhere on the spectrum of rage and outrage," he said. "We are talking about an emotion that leads to violence. If you use that rhetoric, you can't say you didn't expect that kind of reaction."

That's a lesson history keeps trying to teach.

"The Klan has always been about wolves in sheep's clothing," said John Rowley, president of advertising agency and crisis management firm Fletcher Rowley in Nashville. "Hate groups have never had on their business cards the n-word or some sort of overt act of violence. They've always tried to appear a little more inclusive and less threatening, so it's not surprising that they're saying they are against this shooting."

Rowley's firm has worked on more than 500 political campaigns for Democrats in 46 states, including the 1991 election of Edwin Edwards for governor of Louisiana. The election made national headlines because Edwin's opponent, former KKK leader David Duke, made an unexpectedly strong showing.

"Duke was a master of rhetoric to seem like a well-mannered candidate on the outside when he was a zealot on the inside," said Rowley.

There were several factors that contributed to Duke's loss, but when it comes to groups like the KKK, Rowley said, speaking as an ad man, even the "best spin must be grounded in reality."

"Their core mission violates American core values right now," he said. "We don't believe in discrimination. You can't just put a nice wrapper on that with the right words and a rebranding campaign.

Or to compare it to a product, "if you have a car that is killing people because the gas tank is exploding, it doesn't matter how fantastic the ad campaign is for that car."

This is probably the worst article I've seen on CNN. The last quote is the cherry on the top. Nothing like comparing murder to accidents and car ads!

And why do people always feel the need to describe how "nice" racists are? They're not nice, they're evil, mean people
 

Alric

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Oersted

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"Disney is happiness. Nike is you're proud you ran the race. The Ayran Brotherhood -- that's somewhere on the spectrum of rage and outrage,"

Disney is whitewashing and racial stereotypes. Nike, exploitation on a massive scale. There is a chance.


In b4 GOP? (I'm surprised this hasn't offensively been suggested yet.)

Patriotic GOP. Now where is my money?
 

sphagnum

Banned
Nazis are actually rebranding themselves as environmentalists in certain parts of the world (like Mongolia) so anything is possible.

Why is this terrorist organization even allowed to exist?

Not the same organization as the original, which the feds crushed in the 19th century. They don't actively go out and lynch anyone, they just preach their drivel, so they're covered by freedom of speech.
 

Mesousa

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Nazis are actually rebranding themselves as environmentalists in certain parts of the world (like Mongolia) so anything is possible.



Not the same organization as the original, which the feds crushed in the 19th century. They don't actively go out and lynch anyone, they just preach their drivel, so they're covered by freedom of speech.


It is the same organization with that name. Just because the actual killers have died of old age does not change the fact that it is the same disgusting group.

Al Qaeda of America wouldnt be allowed, but since the KKK hates groups mainstream America doesnt give two shits about, we allow them to exist. It is a black spot on this nation.
 

jstripes

Banned
WTF is wrong with the USA? This shouldn't even be a question, let alone one that gets mainstream news coverage.

But then again, maybe Canada is just an anomaly in the world, in that we don't have any sort of (visible) organized hate groups.
 

rpmurphy

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It is the same organization with that name. Just because the actual killers have died of old age does not change the fact that it is the same disgusting group.

Al Qaeda of America wouldnt be allowed, but since the KKK hates groups mainstream America doesnt give two shits about, we allow them to exist. It is a black spot on this nation.
If they were assembling to plan out an attack, feds would have every right to storm them and put down arrests, but otherwise, it's a violation of the First Amendment's right to peaceably assemble. Hate speech too, is protected (except in cases where it directly leads to hate violence). Amend the Constitution or put in new Supreme Court Justices if you want this to change.
 

Plasmid

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CNN has really gone to shit in the last few years. I actually used to watch them for breaking news and interesting news and now it's just sensational (at least more so than a few years ago). A good example is the recent plane going missing, every page "BREAKING NEWS: NOTHING" basically.

At this point CNN is more humorous than news.
 

Mesousa

Banned
If they were assembling to plan out an attack, feds would have every right to storm them and put down arrests, but otherwise, it's a violation of the First Amendment's right to peaceably assemble. Hate speech too, is protected (except in cases where it directly leads to hate violence). Amend the Constitution or put in new Supreme Court Justices if you want this to change.

If you get together to preach hate and how you want your nation to be white only are you truly peacefully assembling?
 
So the local leader of a centuries old terrorist organization is shocked and dismayed when one of his disciples goes off the deep end and starts killing civilians?

This is like Hamas expressing incredulity at another rocket attack on Israel. The KKK should have been hunted to extinction decades ago.
 

obin_gam

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Rebranding works quite well.

It has worked in Sweden at least, where Sverigedemokraterna (eng: Sweden Democrats) went from this in the 90s
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to this in present
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and now have tricked themselves into parlament (they have actually fooled alot of people that they arent still nazists.)
 

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
CNN has really gone to shit in the last few years. I actually used to watch them for breaking news and interesting news and now it's just sensational (at least more so than a few years ago). A good example is the recent plane going missing, every page "BREAKING NEWS: NOTHING" basically.

At this point CNN is more humorous than news.

Understated.

It's has been an incredible spiral down lol
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
CNN has really gone to shit in the last few years. I actually used to watch them for breaking news and interesting news and now it's just sensational (at least more so than a few years ago). A good example is the recent plane going missing, every page "BREAKING NEWS: NOTHING" basically.

At this point CNN is more humorous than news.

Kind of hard to wait for breaking news when everything is breaking.

Breaking news: Sub performed 4th run looking for flight....

Seriously? Is there anything they won't break?

I got upset at an article this morning on people who are upset at dress down religious service. Upset because they want to go back to a simpler time of wearing suits, like during the 60s. Same 60s where they lynched black people. But still, a simpler time.
 

ivysaur12

Banned
Rebranding works quite well.

It has worked in Sweden at least, where Sverigedemokraterna (eng: Sweden Democrats) went from this in the 90s
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to this in present
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and now have tricked themselves into parlament (they have actually fooled alot of people that they arent still nazists.)

Why wouldn't you trust her? She's painting!
 
I can't believe CNN pussy-footed around flat out murder and said "bodies hanging from trees". They sure as shit weren't dead before they were hung.
 

Tristam

Member
In b4 GOP? (I'm surprised this hasn't offensively been suggested yet.)

It would be an offensive generalization (because obviously not all GOP members/supporters are racists) but would as well touch upon an oft-overlooked truth. The last great party realignment was precipitated by the same racial animus that drives the KKK. Strom Thurmond was far from the only racist segregationist who went from Democrat to Dixiecrat to Republican. The modern GOP was born of the same racism that gave the Democratic Party of the 19th and early 20th centuries a political monopoly in the South.
 

Bob White

Member
Rebranding works quite well.
It has worked in Sweden at least, where Sverigedemokraterna and now have tricked themselves into parlament (they have actually fooled alot of people that they arent still nazists.)

You have any links to this story? Interested to learn more about this.

This article would make a great Arrested Development episode. Tobias gets a new job at a PR firm representing the KKK and hilarity ensues. Shit writes itself.
 
I can't seem to find it but I remember on one of Henry Rollins' spoken word albums he talks about the "Klan Disruption Force" or some such jazz. He said if he ever becomes president, he'll hire gay men of multiple races to modernize the Klan. Having them fuck each other during rallies and such. Could be a real contender for the rebranding.
 
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