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CNN Wonders: "Can the Ku Klux Klan Rebrand?" Consults "Brand Experts" (Not the Onion)

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Casimir

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WTF is wrong with the USA? This shouldn't even be a question, let alone one that gets mainstream news coverage.

But then again, maybe Canada is just an anomaly in the world, in that we don't have any sort of (visible) organized hate groups.


As long as the group doesn't directly advocate violence, people are given great latitude to make their voice heard no matter how odious or idiotic.
 
Nazis are actually rebranding themselves as environmentalists in certain parts of the world (like Mongolia) so anything is possible.



Not the same organization as the original, which the feds crushed in the 19th century. They don't actively go out and lynch anyone, they just preach their drivel, so they're covered by freedom of speech.

I just noticed this post, did you seriously post that the feds stamped out lynchings in the 19th century?
 

Axiom

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I don't have a problem with the article, but more the belief (even from the marketing experts) that they couldn't be rebranded to be more friendly and wiggle their way into positions that spread their hate.
If Nazis can rebrand themselves just enough for some political success in certain countries, then the Klan can to.

Their major problem isn't that they're fucking terrible human beings, but the history behind the name. There's incredibly racist and xenophobic political parties that pop up all over the world and sometimes (for a time at the very least) they don't stay a fringe element and can get successful beyond their means.
They say "that was the old system, we're just saying what the major parties are afraid to like 'coded racist/anti-immigrant/anti-different religion/deytookourjurbs message' and I can easily see a point where once its unacceptable for the bad Republicans in any area of the US to even speak to that stuff in a coded way, a group like the Klan has an opportunity.

Even if that isn't the case, better to think it could happen just so such efforts are noticed well before there's even a possibility that it could work.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
This is a question no one other than Klansmen should be considering. Don't even give them ideas.
 

Longshot

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Things_Americans_believe.txt
Not really, I believe this too.

The Communist Party of Australia was disolved in 1991 and the Australian Greens were founded in 1992. Go figure where the members went.

But still, the KKK are a hate organisation and nothing more.
 
CNN is creating controversy with this article and they know it. How much you guys want to bet there are gonna be news segments on the controversy they stirred up? Foxnews will join in stirring up more manufactured bullshit... the cycle of 24hrs news continues.
 
I just noticed this post, did you seriously post that the feds stamped out lynchings in the 19th century?

I don't think he's mistaken, sounds like it's actually misinformation.

When I was in high school back in North Carolina, there was a certain element who would talk about how they had relatives in the Klan. They'd actually brag about it.
The crazy thing is, they would also talk about how the Klan was never really evil in intention; instead, it was formed so that southern whites could administer vigilante justice to wife-beaters within their own community.

This sounds like the same kind of thing, and it's horse-shit.

My favorite part:

We are a legitimate organization.

They're terrorists, and it is important that we remember that.
 

MIMIC

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From the article:

[Disgusting Klan leader] said he and those like him can spread that message without violence -- a sort of rebranding of the Klan.

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Other experts raised the question: If the Klan isn't violent, what's the point?

"What would you be left with? Benign racism?" asked Jelani Cobb, director of the Africana Studies Institute at the University of Connecticut.

xD

Basically. What's that saying about a pig and lipstick?
 

xbhaskarx

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Of course they can rebrand, most people are stupid and have the memory of fruit flies.

Change the name to something that seems inoffensive like "Traditional Values Coalition" and you'll be holding meetings with important political leaders in five years.
Edit: apparently that's already an anti-gay marriage group, how about "Americans for the Preservation of Traditional Values"...
 

sphagnum

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I just noticed this post, did you seriously post that the feds stamped out lynchings in the 19th century?

No, I was referring to the federal government being very active in opposing the KKK during the 19th century during Reconstruction. I never meant to imply that racist killings stopped in the south, just that the organization known as the KKK in the 19th century is not considered to be the same organization as the one/ones known as the KKK today, as the "second" KKK was the one that became active in the early 20th century and the "third" is more like a franchise where different groups have appropriated the name.

It was worded overly simplistically. I know the KKK never actually was completely destroyed but evolved into different forms, but I was reasoning that the current KKK is allowed to be around by the government because they're not going around killing people like the first one did.
 
Hasn't the KKK been trying to rebrand for decades?

I mean isn't the whole "we just want to maintain white culture the same way people want to maintain black culture" an attempted rebranding of "we want to kill black people"?
 
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