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[dave_d]

So you may have seen this news article that Coca Cola is going to sell coke sweetened with cane sugar. Idiots think this will be healthier. The American Chemical Society has an article pointing out this makes no sense. The video is here



Of course if you've taken organic chemistry 2 you pretty much already knew that. (At least that's when we covered it.)

 

[Baemono]

"Healthier coke" sounds like "cigarettes with less nicotine"

 

[jason10mm]

bring back the cocaine, the REAL coke!

As a rare treat (instead of a daily staple) I'd rather have coke with cane sugar than HFCS or whatever abomination they use here. I tend to drink diet sodas which are probably just as bad for me but even then I keep the consumption low. I know guys downing 3-4 LITERS of soda a day that wonder why they are fat.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I can't drink those sugary drinks very often and sorry for the term but some places in Indiana sell "Mexican Coke" that is imported and already sweetened with actual sugar and it tastes better to me

Oh and I know its not better for me

 

[roosnam1980]

 

[Paasei]

I can imagine that it would taste a little better with real sugar. I believe that has always been the case here, but not sure. I haven't had a soft drink in quite some years now.

 

[12Goblins]

It should be illegal to put 40-50g of sugar in a can of soda. I don't understand why we are OK with this

For context, men's DAILY sugar intake should be less than 35 grams

 

[Punished Miku]

I can't drink those sugary drinks very often and sorry for the term but some places in Indiana sell "Mexican Coke" that is imported and already sweetened with actual sugar and it tastes better to me

Oh and I know its not better for me

Deport all the immigrants and demand we make Mexican Coke. Make it make sense.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Deport all the immigrants and demand we make Mexican Coke. Make it make sense.

Deport them just make sure you leave any Coke you brought with you

Wait that sounded wrong, or maybe it didn't

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

I can't drink those sugary drinks very often and sorry for the term but some places in Indiana sell "Mexican Coke" that is imported and already sweetened with actual sugar and it tastes better to me

Oh and I know its not better for me

We have the same versions of Dr. Pepper and Coke here in Texas. It's always been called that and is marketed that way.

Yeah, it tastes better but then again they also charge more for it. Gotta stick to my cokezero and diet dp though.....

 

[jason10mm]

Deport all the immigrants and demand we make Mexican Coke. Make it make sense.

We are trying to create jobs in their native country so they don't have to sneak across a border. Why you want mexico to stay poor???

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

We have the same versions of Dr. Pepper and Coke here in Texas. It's always been called that and is marketed that way.

Yeah, it tastes better but then again they also charge more for it. Gotta stick to my cokezero and diet dp though.....

My son married a Latina gal from Texas and honestly I never knew about this being a thing until we were all out to eat in Indianapolis and she tells me she is ordering one and I should get one

I didn't trust her since she is a huge prankster but I did get one after her and my son ordered it that way

 

[JayK47]

Ha. Of course this is bad news on GAF.

I stopped drinking soda a long time ago. But real sugar is better than that crap corn substitute.

 

[Smiggs]

I can't drink those sugary drinks very often and sorry for the term but some places in Indiana sell "Mexican Coke" that is imported and already sweetened with actual sugar and it tastes better to me

Oh and I know its not better for me

We've had Mexican Coke in northern Indiana for over 20 years. I haven't drank sugary pop in a long time, but I used to get it once in awhile. Definitely tastes better.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

My son married a Latina gal from Texas and honestly I never knew about this being a thing until we were all out to eat in Indianapolis and she tells me she is ordering one and I should get one

I didn't trust her since she is a huge prankster but I did get one after her and my son ordered it that way

BROTHER come down here and get your feed on!
A few days in Houston won't give you my gut....but you'll enjoy it

 

[dave_d]

I can't drink those sugary drinks very often and sorry for the term but some places in Indiana sell "Mexican Coke" that is imported and already sweetened with actual sugar and it tastes better to me

Oh and I know its not better for me

Well there's other differences between cokes from different countries. The term "natural flavors" gives them huge leeway to what's in it to change how it tastes.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Corn Syrup in any drink gives me heart burn. I've talked to my doctor about this and he is not sure why that might be.
I can drink any diet form of a drink and not get heart burn. Diet Dr Pepper is my choice.
Apple Juice and Orange Juice can also give me heart burn and I think they might contain corn syrup too.
Foods with corn syrup don't give me heart burn just drinks.

I would like to try a cane surgar version of a drink to see if my heart will burn or not.

 

[jason10mm]

My son married a Latina gal from Texas and honestly I never knew about this being a thing until we were all out to eat in Indianapolis and she tells me she is ordering one and I should get one

I didn't trust her since she is a huge prankster but I did get one after her and my son ordered it that way

There is mexican sprite and fanta as well. Plus root beers and other stuff. I think just having cane sugar instead of HFCS or beet sugar(?) gets it labelled as a 'mexican' soda, regardless of where its actually produced or sold. Having it in a glass bottle is also a big part of the appeal, I think.

 

[dave_d]

BTW for those that haven't watched the video it basically points out that acids will invert sugar. (IE break sucrose into fructose and glucose.) I always wondered how long the reaction takes at room temps, yeah the video mentions that too.

 

[Smiggs]

There is mexican sprite and fanta as well. Plus root beers and other stuff. I think just having cane sugar instead of HFCS or beet sugar(?) gets it labelled as a 'mexican' soda, regardless of where its actually produced or sold. Having it in a glass bottle is also a big part of the appeal, I think.

The Mexican Coke we used to get around me was always in a glass bottle, and was entirely in Spanish, and was imported from Mexico. I have no idea if that's still the case, though.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

It tastes better with real sugar at least I think so.

 

[Wildebeest]

I've heard that to turn American Coke into "better tasting" Mexican Coke all you need to do is add salt.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Hipsters 10 years from now:

"I buy Coca Cola imported from Canada because Canadian Coke is still made with real corn syrup. Maybe you guys didn't realize this but Coke switched from corn syrup to cane sugar back in 2025. It used to taste soooooo much better, sad that you have been missing out"

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I love pop. Grew up drinking them. I've never had a real cavity either. Just a handful of surface "pre-cavities" if thats a thing. Other than that I've never had a filling. And yes I go to the dentist twice a year. I've cut back a touch past year, but historically I'd drink I'd say about 3 cans/day for probably 40 years.

Energy drinks I dont drink often. But when I do I go on a binge where I'd down 3 after dinner. I'd buy a 24 pack and go through it all in a couple weeks tops. I'd buy them more but they cost way more than a case of pop.

All these sugary and energy drinks have zero effect on me. Dont feel a thing. lol. There's times I'd wake up and drink a pop and then go bac to bed.

I love juice too, but juice is different. If I drink too much acidic stuff (like orange juice) there's only so much of that I can drink in a sitting. It's acidic like a pop but pop's are easier to handle. I think it's because OJ is a thick pasty drink while pop/energy drinks are thin like water.

 

[jason10mm]

The Mexican Coke we used to get around me was always in a glass bottle, and was entirely in Spanish, and was imported from Mexico. I have no idea if that's still the case, though.

If it becomes trendy I've little doubt the soda companies will just -slightly- tweak their recipe to add a single real sugar crystal to each vat just so they can say "made with CANE SUGAR" and it will have nothing to do with the legit mexican soda formulation.

I'm of the opinion that these types of manufacturing processes are much harder to replicate that lots of folks thing so just changing out some ingredients won't replicate the flavors that well. The specifics of the vats, the pipes, the exact source of the water and sugar, the music the workers play while cleaning the machines, the slight variation the 80 year old guy working a boiler introduces into the process, all that stuff coming into play, often in mysterious ways, and is exceedingly hard to reproduce.

 

[Idleyes]

I can't do soda unfortunately. I have to keep a balanced diet so that I may drink substantial amounts of liquor. It's mostly water and whiskey for me.

Edit: In fact my brain sees the www for websites as Water With Whiskey.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

If it becomes trendy I've little doubt the soda companies will just -slightly- tweak their recipe to add a single real sugar crystal to each vat just so they can say "made with CANE SUGAR" and it will have nothing to do with the legit mexican soda formulation.

That's totally how soap and shampoo companies do it.

It can claim to made with hibiscus root or aloe whatever. It is true. But it's like 5 drops of it in the entire bottle. No joke. But if the country's advertising laws arent strong to prevent shady claims, then what they said is technically legit.

 

[Raven117]

It tastes better. So there is that

 

[Smiggs]

If it becomes trendy I've little doubt the soda companies will just -slightly- tweak their recipe to add a single real sugar crystal to each vat just so they can say "made with CANE SUGAR" and it will have nothing to do with the legit mexican soda formulation.

I'm of the opinion that these types of manufacturing processes are much harder to replicate that lots of folks thing so just changing out some ingredients won't replicate the flavors that well. The specifics of the vats, the pipes, the exact source of the water and sugar, the music the workers play while cleaning the machines, the slight variation the 80 year old guy working a boiler introduces into the process, all that stuff coming into play, often in mysterious ways, and is exceedingly hard to reproduce.

The difference in water will probably always be the biggest contributor to the taste, but I'm guessing they're all using softened and treated water to replicate the flavor anywhere it's produced.

 

[Chuck Berry]

We've been getting this and natural sugar Sprite in south FL for fucking ever. Is it now going to be countrywide?

 

[GymWolf]

Thank god i have an adversion against gassed beverage and only apprecciate cola with a rare lollipop or icicle...no homo

 

[violence]

I'm assuming with real sugar it is easier for your body to tell you "stop!"

 

[Diddy X]

Lol when I found out a can of coke contains 38 fuckin grams of sugar, never again.

 

[The Cockatrice]

no homo

 

[Kacho]

It should be illegal to put 40-50g of sugar in a can of soda. I don't understand why we are OK with this

For context, men's DAILY sugar intake should be less than 35 grams

It's a treat, not a daily thing.

 

[GymWolf]

Does this look gay to you?

Spoiler

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

I can't do soda unfortunately. I have to keep a balanced diet so that I may drink substantial amounts of liquor. It's mostly water and whiskey for me.

Edit: In fact my brain sees the www for websites as Water With Whiskey.

I've been there (with whiskey) and kept yoyo-ing with my weight loss & gain. I got fed up with that and quit entirely.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Dentists there right now:

 

[The Cockatrice]

Does this look gay to you?

Spoiler

There is no way Im sucking on that thing in public.

 

[GymWolf]

There is no way Im sucking on that thing in public.

It's a product you buy at the minimarket for home usage

Of course women have less problems eating that outside

 

[simpatico]

Is viscosity a joke to you OP?

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Pepsi already sells cane sugar soda, and Coke is just going to add it as another option. The other one will still be there. They did this 15 years ago and it didnt move the needle so they stopped. People just need to stop drinking Soda so much. Its like 10 bucks for a 12 pack now because soda companies havent lowered their inflated prices. I just wait every 4 weeks when they have buy 2 get 3 sales because they didnt move any stock at the 10 dollar price.

 

[Audiophile]

Replacing High-Fructose Corn Syrup with sugar (sucrose) is a layer of harm reduction. Reality is, people want their sugary drinks but if you can temper the negative effects then that's fine by me.

The main criticism against using cane sugar instead of HFCS is that the ratio of glucose to fructose is only slightly higher, so why would it matter? The main one everyone focuses on is HFCS-55, or 55% Fructose to 45% Glucose vs Sucrose which is ~50/50.

The ratio however is of minimal importance. The difference between sugar/sucrose and HFCS is that the glucose and fructose in sucrose are chemically bonded while they're not in HFCS..

With sucrose they must be broken down and absorb slower.

With HFCS the glucose molecule is free to be immediately absorbed, while the fructose bypasses part of the metabolic pathway and is much more taxing on the liver and pancreas in isolation. Over a longer period of time this will cause issues.

Pair this with the godawful modern diet and tolerances to this sort of thing are significantly lower as one thing compounds another, leading to a snowballing of metabolic disease. Every little layer of harm reduction is good by me.

 

[The Cockatrice]

It's a product you buy at the minimarket for home usage

Of course women have less problems eating that outside

Yeah looks delicious but also kinda unhealthy af.

 

[GymWolf]

Yeah looks delicious but also kinda unhealthy af.

It is just a cola icicle with 70 calories, made in italy.

And pretty sure that european\italian products are far more healthy than their countepart in us.

 

[Mistake]

You know things are wildly out of hand when the sugar industry has lobbyists. I'm all for using more natural sugars or ingredients instead of all this hidden garbage you can't pronounce

 

[LordOfChaos]

Not sure who's saying it's healthier, but Coke with real sugar in the Mexican glass bottles has always tasted better. I've only ever heard it about taste, a couple of spoonful's of sugar to the mouth is still not heathy, though I guess there were the more general conspiracies around corn syrup.

 

[GymWolf]

Not sure who's saying it's healthier, but Coke with real sugar in the Mexican glass bottles has always tasted better. I've only ever heard it about taste, a couple of spoonful's of sugar to the mouth is still not heathy, though I guess there were the more general conspiracies around corn syrup.

Doesn't people say that glass bottled cola always taste better than cans\plastic bottles?!

 

[dave_d]

Not sure who's saying it's healthier, but Coke with real sugar in the Mexican glass bottles has always tasted better. I've only ever heard it about taste, a couple of spoonful's of sugar to the mouth is still not heathy, though I guess there were the more general conspiracies around corn syrup.

Mostly people that don't know chem. The thing is (as the video shows) the acid in coke breaks down the sucrose into glucose and fructose. If I remember right he mentions at room temp the acid converts about 1/2 of the sucrose into glucose/fructose. (IE largely the same thing as HFCS) Oh and for what it's worth if you know some human bio you know your body doesn't absorb sucrose. It uses invertase to convert sucrose into, yes you guessed it, Frank Stallone. Err I mean glucose/fructose.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Isn't high glucose corn syrup more likely to have glyphosate, or am I making that up?