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[SlimySnake]

I tried Pepsi's real cane sugar and its basically the same. I couldnt tell the difference.

Coke and pepsi taste different here because they dont have that kick they do in other third world countries. it's the same issue in Europe. Bottled does make it taste better but only slightly better. I've tried those too.

I hope they get rid of aspertame in the coke zero. it tastes great, but aspartame is bad for you. They should look into stevia.

 

[Days like these...]

Living in Texas I've been drinking Mexican coke my whole life. Thank jeebus for Mexican grocery stores.

 

[Nydius]

I know that correlation doesn't equal causation but I find it highly suspect that our US national obesity problem began to really balloon after HFCS overtook cane or beet sugars as the primary sweeteners in most products. It also makes no sense why HFCS is sneakily crammed into products at every turn (like Ritz Crackers).

Regarding colas, I have no real dog in the hunt because I gave up sugared drinks about a decade ago when my wife first got diagnosed as a highly insulin resistant type 2 diabetic. I have maybe one soda a month, at most. Seeing as how my bowel disorders also contraindicate artificial sweeteners (especially aspartame and sucralose), my life is basically water and plain old tea (which took a lot of time to adapt to).

That said, both her endocrinologist and rheumatologist (plus my gastroenterologist) have told us to avoid HFCS when possible and, if we must use sugar, try to stick to cane or beet sugars.

 

[cash_longfellow]

Big deal…let me know when they go back to using cocaine, and I'm in

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I spend a large amount of time in Mexico each year and always drink these and Topo Chico

There's definitely a difference in taste as I go out of my way to drink the sugar version while there. I prefer it by a lot.

Funny enough I believe they did a blind taste test a while ago and most people actually prefer the taste of the corn syrup version.

 

[jason10mm]

Replacing High-Fructose Corn Syrup with sugar (sucrose) is a layer of harm reduction. Reality is, people want their sugary drinks but if you can temper the negative effects then that's fine by me.

The main criticism against using cane sugar instead of HFCS is that the ratio of glucose to fructose is only slightly higher, so why would it matter? The main one everyone focuses on is HFCS-55, or 55% Fructose to 45% Glucose vs Sucrose which is ~50/50.

The ratio however is of minimal importance. The difference between sugar/sucrose and HFCS is that the glucose and fructose in sucrose are chemically bonded while they're not in HFCS..

With sucrose they must be broken down and absorb slower.

With HFCS the glucose molecule is free to be immediately absorbed, while the fructose bypasses part of the metabolic pathway and is much more taxing on the liver and pancreas in isolation. Over a longer period of time this will cause issues.

Pair this with the godawful modern diet and tolerances to this sort of thing are significantly lower as one thing compounds another, leading to a snowballing of metabolic disease. Every little layer of harm reduction is good by me.

Thanks chatgpt!

but seriously, i think its all the chemical processing, followed by the over consumption. The more we get back to a natural non factory diet the better. Turn corn into fuel, whisky, or feed for meat animals that can actually digest it properly.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

Sucrose tastes better then high fructose corn syrup, and it doesn't give me terrble stomach aches. I don't care if it comes from beats or sugar cane

 

[Trilobit]

Honestly, corn syrup sounds nasty. Yuck!

 

[Days like these...]

I spend a large amount of time in Mexico each year and always drink these and Topo Chico

There's definitely a difference in taste as I go out of my way to drink the sugar version while there. I prefer it by a lot.

Funny enough I believe they did a blind taste test a while ago and most people actually prefer the taste of the corn syrup version.

I think the corn syrup coke is sweeter but sugar Coke tastes better can't explain it.

 

[sono]

I drink coke zero semi regularly for the healty caffeine and no calories.

Correct?

 

[12Goblins]

It's a treat, not a daily thing.

Yeah that's really working out well for us

IMO it should be illegal to have over 25g of sugar in one serving of ANYTHING

When one can of soda can be DOUBLE ones daily intake of sugar for women, wtf are we doing ??

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

That poison should be banned in countries around the world.

It has caused millions of deaths.

That shit has 30 tablespoons of sugar in 2 liters.

 

[Senua]

HFCS is nasty

 

[12Goblins]

Also bring back Coke Life you cowards (⁠ﾉ⁠≧⁠∇⁠≦⁠)⁠ﾉ⁠ ⁠ﾐ⁠ ⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

 

[Esca]

It has to be better than HFCS they use. Either way though, no one should be drinking soda. I drink it 3-4 times a year and don't even finish half of it in most cases

 

[AJUMP23]

I think cane sugar soft drinks are smoother. Mtn Dew has a version and Coke as well.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I think the corn syrup coke is sweeter but sugar Coke tastes better can't explain it.

Agreed. I was actually going to write the same thing.

It tastes less sweet, which I prefer. I can see why people would prefer the sweeter tasting one though

 

[Three]

Honestly who gives a shit, it's all poison. The only reason people are talking about this in the first place is because Trump tried to make it a topic (after saying there are more important topics than the files ofcourse). That and the dumb "diet coke button" they spent a while chatting about you'd think they have some kind of sponsorship.

 

[Aces High]

I recommend to not drink Coke. Or Red Bull.
You don't need it.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It should be illegal to put 40-50g of sugar in a can of soda. I don't understand why we are OK with this

For context, men's DAILY sugar intake should be less than 35 grams

Do you hate freedom?

 

[Plies]

Big deal…let me know when they go back to using cocaine, and I'm in

 

[thefool]

Ha. Of course this is bad news on GAF.

I stopped drinking soda a long time ago. But real sugar is better than that crap corn substitute.

OP will only believe it when cnn reports about it. Maybe In 4 years he'll understand.

 

[Days like these...]

Agreed. I was actually going to write the same thing.

It tastes less sweet, which I prefer. I can see why people would prefer the sweeter tasting one though

Mexican coke seems more carbonated to me and unless this new coke with sugar comes in a glass bottle Mexican coke is still going to taste better.

 

[Nydius]

That poison should be banned in countries around the world.

It has caused millions of deaths.

That shit has 30 tablespoons of sugar in 2 liters.

At least with soda anyone with common sense should know they're drinking carbonated sugar water. What I find egregious is the way they sneak copious amount of sugar into other things.

Ever look at the back of a Heinz Ketchup bottle in the US? Serving size: 1 tablespoon (or 17 grams). Total sugar per serving? 4 grams. Almost 25% of each serving is pure sugar. And it's not even natural sugars from the tomato itself, it's listed as "added sugars".

 

[0neAnd0nly]

Honestly who gives a shit, it's all poison. The only reason people are talking about this in the first place is because Trump tried to make it a topic (after saying there are more important topics than the files ofcourse). That and the dumb "diet coke button" they spent a while chatting about you'd think they have some kind of sponsorship.

Plenty of people have discussed HFCS issues (especially with soda) well before the recent *insert political name* person did.

I remember my best friend railing on it a decade ago. Studies always showing mixed things with long(ish) term testing, and other countries making HFCS harder to use due to good ol' law.

So no, people aren't only talking about this recently. I have been a proponent of having both options for a bit.

 

[Three]

Plenty of people have discussed HFCS issues (especially with soda) well before the recent *insert political name* person did.

I remember my best friend railing on it a decade ago. Studies always showing mixed things with long(ish) term testing, and other countries making HFCS harder to use due to good ol' law.

So no, people aren't only talking about this recently. I have been a proponent of having both options for a bit.

Well I'm not saying nobody talked about it ever before. I'm sure your best friend did but I don't know him nor did anybody talk about it in my circle. I'm saying it's getting the limelight now in the press and on forums because of this stupid news coverage

Coca-Cola to launch Coke with cane sugar in the US after Trump post

Experts say switching corn syrup for cane sugar does not make the drink healthier

www.theguardian.com

Due to the Trump truthsocial post

 

[Unknown?]

This sucks! I prefer my coke made with vegetables. How can this possibly be more healthy?

 

[AJUMP23]

Big deal…let me know when they go back to using cocaine, and I'm in

Coke was designed by a pharmacist for medicinal healing.

 

[TDiddyLive]

My son married a Latina gal from Texas and honestly I never knew about this being a thing until we were all out to eat in Indianapolis and she tells me she is ordering one and I should get one

I didn't trust her since she is a huge prankster but I did get one after her and my son ordered it that way

Mexican Coke is the actual name of the product.

https://www.smartandfinal.com/sm/pickup/rsid/522/product/cocacola-mexican-coke-soda-soft-drink-cane-sugar-169-fl-oz-id-00049000046595

A few Mexican restaurants near me have both Coke and Mexican Coke on the menu. Free refill Coke or pay by the bottle Mexican Coke. You definitely see more bottles than cups.

 

[TDiddyLive]

There is mexican sprite and fanta as well. Plus root beers and other stuff. I think just having cane sugar instead of HFCS or beet sugar(?) gets it labelled as a 'mexican' soda, regardless of where its actually produced or sold. Having it in a glass bottle is also a big part of the appeal, I think.

Mexican Sprite, Mexican Fanta, and Mexican Coke are all made in Mexico. It's not just a labeling thing.

https://a.co/d/9mdxHay

 

[Hookshot]

Looks like you don't get "J20" In America. It's various flavoured fruit drinks here that was put in pubs and clubs as a soft drink alternative to sodas.

Only the stuff has more sugar in it than a bottle of coke, making it worse for you.

 

[ReBurn]

I drink coke zero semi regularly for the healty caffeine and no calories.

Correct?

I do as well when I want caffeine but it's too warm for coffee. I'm not a fan of drinking my calories.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I'd try these imported Mexican cokes more (if I do see them here they always seem to come in 6 pack bottles or sold separately at a restaurant or pub). I've had them but dont remember how they taste compared to local coke as I've had it so few times. But I balk at buying them if I see as they cost like 3x the normal cokes. lol

 

[diffusionx]

I like soda and have it once in a while (1-2 a week) but it's fucking weird the way people latched onto this as some sort of health crusade. In the end it's sugar. Sugar is not good for you. Stuff like this is a distraction. The smaller cans that they sell is a much healthier option than cane sugar soda because it's less of it.

I drink coke zero semi regularly for the healty caffeine and no calories.

Correct?

Black coffee is the best option for caffeine

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I can't drink those sugary drinks very often and sorry for the term but some places in Indiana sell "Mexican Coke" that is imported and already sweetened with actual sugar and it tastes better to me

Oh and I know its not better for me

Mexican Coke does taste better. Back when I used to drink Coke like 20 years ago I would go to Costco and buy a case of Mexican Coke specially for this reason

That said, this is the vibe I get from the Democrats these days

 

[Unknown?]

Big deal…let me know when they go back to using cocaine, and I'm in

That's the throwback edition.

 

[DreamcastSkies]

Cane sugar bros, we are so back.

 

[Rentahamster]

I drink water from a dispenser

 

[Madflavor]

I'll treat myself with a Coke once in a while, but for the most part I drink Zevia. Guilt free soda.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I know that correlation doesn't equal causation but I find it highly suspect that our US national obesity problem began to really balloon after HFCS overtook cane or beet sugars as the primary sweeteners in most products. It also makes no sense why HFCS is sneakily crammed into products at every turn (like Ritz Crackers).

Yup, this is a major contributor. It blows my mind this is not yet banned.

 

[DavidGzz]

A nothing burger. And soda will just get more expensive.

 

[Baemono]

A nothing burger.

Which is the best kind of burgers, since it's calorie free

 

[Nydius]

Yup, this is a major contributor. It blows my mind this is not yet banned.

Big agricultural corporations suckling at the government subsidy teet is why HFCS is prevalent in the United States and rarely used elsewhere.

So long as big Ag keeps getting billions in corn subsidies ($3.2bn in FY2024, the single largest farming subsidy at around 30%) neither HFCS nor ethanol additives will go anywhere. Sadly.

I suspect this move by Coke will simply be a very limited product (e.g. "Coke Cane Sugar" like "Pepsi Real Sugar") while the majority of their product line will remain unchanged. Otherwise corn farmers and their respective lobbies would absolutely lose their minds and revolt against the loss of one of their biggest corporate customers.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Regarding sketchy ingredients, it's really no different than when we all see giant unruly mobs protesting and the gov does nothing about it.

When something stupid festers and gets out of hand getting bigger and bigger, it gets to a point it becomes impossible to stop. Whether it's laziness, greed, messing up future votes etc.... it doesnt matter what the reasons are because there's a status quo going on. At that point, one of two things needs to happens to quell the stupidity. Either they do nothing and hope it disappears on its own, or someone has to go in hard and dismantle it. The bigger it is, the tougher to take down.

That's what happens when you got lax government.

But in general when it comes to food and drugs ingredients, the US is more lenient than Europe or Canada (at least from my experience and what you see in media). Now someone can argue (if they got the details) that a lot of these weird additives are a non-issue and the other countries are overdoing it. That can be a possibility too. But I think it's common sense a lot of the chemicals shouldnt be needed to still have a quality product while limiting any additional risks. But the US (since they are a very capitalistic gung ho kind of country when it comes to business) would naturally be more lenient and let things happen and shake out on their own with less intervention.

At companies I've worked at, getting products approved with Health Canada is more strict than the FDA. And sometimes any products coming from US factories have to be adjusted to meet standards.

 

[RCX]

Organic meth!

Grass fed fentanyl!

 

[spookyfish]

I can't drink those sugary drinks very often and sorry for the term but some places in Indiana sell "Mexican Coke" that is imported and already sweetened with actual sugar and it tastes better to me

Oh and I know its not better for me

Yeah, they have the bottled Coke in stores here in north GA. I do like the taste. (They released Mountain Dew a few years ago with cane sugar -- and it was pretty good. The dyes, though ...)

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Why do you Americano's drink so much horrible soda?

 

[dave_d]

Honestly who gives a shit, it's all poison. The only reason people are talking about this in the first place is because Trump tried to make it a topic (after saying there are more important topics than the files ofcourse). That and the dumb "diet coke button" they spent a while chatting about you'd think they have some kind of sponsorship.

I was mostly interested because I literally saw people think it's healthier. I knew that wasn't true because I had taken chem years ago so I knew about the reaction to invert sugar using an acid.(Which breaks sucrose into fructose/glucose at a 50/50 mix and sodas like coke are quite acidic) The only question I had was how long does the reaction take? Turns out the American Chemical Society did a video exploring this which is what I linked to earlier.(Turns out after a month at room temp half the sucrose has broken down. FWIW until I saw that video I didn't realize people were trying to claim Mexican Coke was a lie that wasn't made with sucrose like that moron Johnny Harris) BTW From what I remember there was a study something like 20 years ago that said how unhealthy HCFS was in drinks but that was in comparison to water, not sucrose. (Admittedly I drink way too much Coca-Cola. Not that I worry about it that much, my BMI is 20.5)

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Why do you Americano's drink so much horrible soda?

USA is #1 in dirt cheap junk food and buffets everywhere.

Watch US tv channels and when it comes to commercial breaks, it's tons of bargain priced fast food combos from companies all trying to one up each other, $1 tacos or new pop and potato chip flavours. And you're bound to see a Golden Coral ad promoting a buffet for $12.

 

[Nydius]

Why do you Americano's drink so much horrible soda?

Two reasons, in my opinion:

- Nutrition education in this country is abysmal, if it exists at all in some places. Even when I was in public school 30+ years ago when health and physical education classes were required all four years of high school, nutrition education was maybe a grand total of a week. It wasn't until I began seeing a gastroenterologist for my gut issues in my mid-20's that I was introduced to an actual nutritionist.

- Decades of marketing have effectively convinced the general public that grabbing a soda is just a refreshing, tasty way to hydrate rather than what they actually are: liquid candy. Similarly, they've convinced people that these sugar laden corn puffed flavored cereals are "part of a balanced breakfast".