Garrett Hawke
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"pretty sure i understand that hate movement that wasn't even about games journalism now"
"pretty sure i understand that hate movement that wasn't even about games journalism now"
Updating articles with additional information as it happens is what GamerGate was ALL about
HahahahaHe just dipped out of his own company once the going got tough.
"pretty sure i understand that hate movement that wasn't even about games journalism now"
*scratching record*
what???
I updated my visual aid with the inclusion of #ADayWithouAWoman to show that HE KNEW what he was doing.
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SJWs attacking over a tasteless joke is way worse than the joke itself. I agree with a lot of his political views lately, but that getting into the way of gaming discussions turned me off of KF.
Well, putting it after sure doesn't sound like you meant "and I think that's great in the right context!!"
btw what's the wrong context
Considering you're not one of the people who replied to my initial comment, I feel like I should clarify that the discussion of the whole issue starts from the beginning.
Women do speak a lot, don't they? Lol.
It's the seemingly innocuous shit we all tolerate in daily life that allows resentment and discrimination to survive.Example of right context? Nazi rally against jews. Everyone should stand against them. Some right wing nutjob asking to ban Islam in the US. Everyone should stand up against him/her.
Etc. etc.
Not a simple, stupid, everyday joke.
There's a difference between being displeased and bordering on hatred/attacks. This whole story is overreaction. From all sides.
His perspective is nothing new or ground breaking for the gaming community. If anything he's just the mouthpiece for a lot of the ugly ideas and feelings festering for so long.
Nobody needs the perspective of "ha ha women talk too much" on fucking International Women's Day. In fact it's the exact fucking opposite.
Because I don't believe he doesn't respect women and sometimes people make jokes like that. I'm not excusing what he said and I don't blame people for being mad. I am just saying how I feel about it and you and plenty of other people can too and I'll respect your thoughts as I hope you will respect mine. He made a bad joke and I'm not convinced he is a piece of shit because of it. Pretty much end of story on that one. Now what's all this about Greg responding and it becoming a big thing? Like I said, I follow them and saw the tweet but did not know it blew up
I think people need to lighten up. It's hardly an attack on women, it's just a joke. Yes, men think that women talk a lot, it's a common thing. Just like women think that men are pigs, and most assume the French are arrogant and Russians are evil. Making a joke about these prejudices should be okay if it's sarcasm.
The only issue with this tweet is that Kevin has a bad history of saying bad things which puts this tweet on a wrong context. I think that him saying that it's obviously a joke is a good enough excuse.
But he should quit if his opinions don't mesh with the group though.
Opinions, right? How do they work?
I disagree with him over 50% of the time, but he's very good at laying out cause & effect for his arguments. I can definitely see his train of thought on a matter. That makes him a very eloquent speak in my eyes and someone worth listening to.
He seems like someone who's easy to talk to and someone you can openly disagree with without the whole touchy feeling bullshit. He also seems to take criticism very well, unlike most people, and doesn't simply get sad when he can't please 100% of the people watching him.
There's always money in Breitbart for him
Perfect replacement: Jared Petty
Sad so many people is "happy" that someone lost his job. For sure you either never work, or had to pay bills for family.
Do you guys truly believe he's Breitbart level of... whatever that level would measure? That's just so wrong.
He resigned the same way Michael Flynn did
I know Colin is a bad example, but I do think one of the more dangerous things in video game discourse is when message boards go out of their way to make anyone with right-leaning views feel unwelcome. There is no good vs. evil fight in the left vs. right. This ain't a damn video game. Turning gaming into an echo chamber makes for a worse community.
I get that he said a thing or two he really, REALLY shouldn't have said from his position of authority to a wider audience (or at least understand and respect that others think that), but I get the feeling that more than a bit of this celebration comes from the fact that someone with different political views no longer gets to be employed.
THERE ARE REAL PEOPLE BEING ADVERSELY AFFECTED, BEING KILLED BY CLOSED MINDED PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO THINK IT'S OK TO JOKE ABOUT REAL SOCIAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE THEY AREN'T ADVERSELY EFFECTED BY THEM. SO YES, I THINK KINDAFUNNY DID THE RIGHT THING IF THEY TRULY ARE ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
They did buy him out. Interesting.
Sad so many people is "happy" that someone lost his job. For sure you either never work, or had to pay bills for family.
Literally batting for GamerGate.
smdh
Fake news really has taken over, huh.Sad so many people is "happy" that someone lost his job. For sure you either never work, or had to pay bills for family.
Those are just examples. He was asking what the right context is. So you're saying there are only two situations ever where it is okay to speak out on behalf of oppressed or marginalized people, and those are the ones you listed? You did say "etc etc", and I guess Colin taking shots at women on International Womens Day would certainly fall under "etc", but then you call his tweet a "simple every day joke". Come up with an actual explanation of where this arbitrary line you decided to draw is, or please drop it.
So only extreme examples warrant sticking up for the marginalized?
We stick up for vulnerable people because the injustices they face permeate through all of society.
So on a scale of 1 to the Armenian genocide, how appropriate is it right now to talk about Colin's continued foray into hot take right wing politics?
Ah so your line is genocide.
A huge blow. Whether the posters in here like it or not, Colin was the best thing about Kinda Funny. Nobody gives a fuck about Tim, Kevin and Nick.Wish the best for Colin, and while I don't always agree with him he pretty much brought the most interesting perspectives on gaming. I find Greg just not someone I relate with much and while I like Tim a lot I'm not sure how into just Tim and Greg content I really will be.
Pretty big blow to Kinda Funny to me. Greg and Colin together were the content I enjoyed from them the most
I think people need to lighten up. It's hardly an attack on women, it's just a joke. Yes, men think that women talk a lot, it's a common thing. Just like women think that men are pigs, and most assume the French are arrogant and Russians are evil. Making a joke about these prejudices should be okay if it's sarcasm.
The only issue with this tweet is that Kevin has a bad history of saying bad things which puts this tweet on a wrong context. I think that him saying that it's obviously a joke is a good enough excuse.
But he should quit if his opinions don't mesh with the group though.
For the best.
You wouldnt want someone to leave (especially in the fashion Collin did) and still have a say in the company.
A huge blow. Whether the posters in here like it or not, Colin was the best thing about Kinda Funny. Nobody gives a fuck about Tim, Kevin and Nick.
Sad so many people is "happy" that someone lost his job. For sure you either never work, or had to pay bills for family.
I honestly don't know the guy, but felt a bit unsurprised at the Sommers retweets. There must be like a faux liberal concern trolling guide somewhere that goes something like :
You guys are funny. Those were merely two examples, nothing more. Examples out of an infinite number of possibilities. Another just for you to come back to your senses:
How about, the neighboring white kids bullying a black kid or neighboring black kids bullying a white kid, purely for being a different race.
Basically, if behaviors promote racist or sexist sentiment, I consider that out of line. I don't consider that tweet to be the case. By strict definition it was sexist, but it wasn't meant to turn males against females or reflect the true views of Colin.