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[Deadpool_X]

Well, I can actually start watching KF now. I don't dislike Colin for his political stance. Everyone has their own opinions and I am OK with whatever those are. You believe what you believe. It's not up to me to try to change anyone's political stance, regardless of how their fall.

No, I dislike Colin because he was the biggest Sony Fanboy that ever walked in the doors of IGN. If it was a Sony exclusive, his review would routinely be at least 2 full points higher than any other reputable gaming review outlet. He would turn what most thought was a 7 into a 9, all because he was blinded by his fanboyism. Plus, dude just always seemed like the kind of guy I'd want to punch in a bar.

 

[ScientificPizza]

It's flat out wrong to say he isn't smart. Again, he's a fucking terrible person, but he is smart. Now Colin tweeting the article...probably not smart

Colin saying he was smart was never the problem. Celebrating the intelligence of a vile person is. When people replied to him with the kind of views Bannon promoted on his site Colin just kept replying "okay but did he actually physically write any of that". He was bending over backwards to justify his stance of thinking Bannon was intelligent instead of the appropriate thing to do which would be not putting a hateful piece of shit on an intellectual pedestal

 

[fastballspecial]

Giant bomb

Hahahaaaaaa. I'd love to see Brad throw him out the door. That's about it.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

If there weren't some intelligent bigots, bigotry wouldn't be as pervasive as it is. You need people with book smarts and charisma to spread ideology and get otherwise sensible people to look the other way.

 

[ZeroX03]

skynidas on that borrowed time

 

[……forgetit]

I'm just glad the rest of the world noticed how bad Colin is. I've been saying this shit for years.

 

[DieGo2SHAE]

I haven't listened to this miserable loser since he left Beyond and I never listened to or watched KFG or PSILY because he was on it. Great news to hear, I missed Greg but could not stand this guy.

 

[skynidas]

skynidas on that borrowed time

what are you trying to say? that I should get banned? for what?

 

[BLOODED_hands]

skynidas on that borrowed time

You would know, Eobard Thawne lol.

 

[ScientificPizza]

my opinions are very clear. I support Colin, I support everyone's right to say whatever they want and I am against echo chambers.

hey check out this free speech:

your stance sucks shit and you have the moral backbone of a worm

like you can't even decry *racism*

 

[razgriz417]

Yeah. I used to like watching/listening to Colin and Greg on Beyond. But slowly over the years Colin wore on me to the point that I just couldnt take him anymore. I havent even been paying attention to him for the last while and looking back at what hes been goin on about the last while, I'm pretty glad I did.

This I loved beyond in the 2000s by Colin got to me and I finally dropped it.

 

[Poltergust]

my opinions are very clear. I support Colin, I support everyone's right to say whatever they want and I am against echo chambers.

Alt-text of the comic posted earlier:

I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.

You're gonna have to try harder than that.

 

[Squall5042]

I don't know anything about these guys or this podcast. I just so happened to start listening to it last night for the first time and my initial impression was that Colin was kind of an ass and now this news comes out several hours later lol

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Like Lao Tzu said, "knowledge over others is intelligence, knowledge over self is wisdom" Bannanon seems to have knowledge over a certain demographic so I guess you could say he is intelligent. But thats other peoples fault for being stupid.

 

[Jebusman]

Well, I can actually start watching KF now. I don't dislike Colin for his political stance. Everyone has their own opinions and I am OK with whatever those are. You believe what you believe. It's not up to me to try to change anyone's political stance, regardless of how their fall.

No, I dislike Colin because he was the biggest Sony Fanboy that ever walked in the doors of IGN. If it was a Sony exclusive, his review would routinely be at least 2 full points higher than any other reputable gaming review outlet. He would turn what most thought was a 7 into a 9, all because he was blinded by his fanboyism. Plus, dude just always seemed like the kind of guy I'd want to punch in a bar.

I mean, I know this is the gaming side of the forum, but this sort of sums up how this hobby is doomed to be the tire fire it is when it comes to progressive politics.

"Man he can believe whatever he wants, that's cool, but man I draw the line at how much of a Sony fanboy he was. The nerve of him! Over the line.".

 

[Darkgran]

i'm defending free speech.

I don't think you understand what free speech is.

Yes you can say anything you want but there are consequences for the things we say.

For example: I can go into a movie theater and shout "FIRE" but there is going to be consequence for me doing that.

 

[LionPride]

Colin saying he was smart was never the problem. Celebrating the intelligence of a vile person is. When people replied to him with the kind of views Bannon promoted on his site Colin just kept replying "okay but did he actually physically write any of that". He was bending over backwards to justify his stance of thinking Bannon was intelligent instead of the appropriate thing to do which would be not putting a hateful piece of shit on an intellectual pedestal

Colin is a dumbass. I've stated this many times.

 

[Gator86]

skynidas on that borrowed time

But we need bold truth tellers to break up echo chambers by telling us how inferior women and people of color are! Echo chambers are the real menace, not structural inqualities and the deleterious attitudes and behaviors that perpetuate them.

 

[Raven117]

This ^

People really need to start understanding the parameters of free speech; and going off of this discussion, what it even means in the first place.

The parameters of free speech. This truly is an interesting concept at this point.

I don't think "WE" as a society have quite figured out how to address the contures of free speech in the internet age.

Government, we can all say...government can't limit free speech...but I do think both the megaphone the interenet can be...and the reaction to it is something we haven't figured out yet.

 

[JordanN]

If there weren't some intelligent bigots, bigotry wouldn't be as pervasive as it is. You need people with book smarts and charisma to spread ideology and get otherwise sensible people to look the other way.

Being intelligent and being a bigot are two contradictions. It's like those fraud scientists who say they can disprove climate change or push creationism.

Don't let the degrees fool you into thinking they're not in over themselves.

 

[Oersted]

my opinions are very clear. I support Colin, I support everyone's right to say whatever they want and I am against echo chambers.

Someone against echochambers should start with himself. Are you willing to question Colin and what he does?

 

[BabyFaceKillah]

skynidas on that borrowed time

cuz he doesnt think like you?

But we need bold truth tellers to break up echo chambers by telling us how inferior women and people of color are! Echo chambers are the real menace, not structural inqualities and the deleterious attitudes and behaviors that perpetuate them.

skynidas never said this

 

[Audioboxer]

Like Lao Tzu said, "knowledge over others is intelligence, knowledge over self is wisdom" Bannanon seems to have knowledge over a certain demographic so I guess you could day he is intelligent. But thats other peoples fault for being stupid.

Well, intelligence and knowledge is often power, and if you have it, you can convince many "pawns" you are to be respected, looked upon and listened to. Which is why it can be such a dangerous mix when it's held by someone with such questionable morals.

In politics real enemies often are not "low IQ" everyday people. It's those with qualifications and a personality that is horrifying to boot. Of course, some get into power via money and friends of friends, but they often end up puppets to the "masterminds" behind the scenes.

 

[OriginalPoe]

Here's the point:

You can say whatever you want. You WILL and CAN be judged on what you say. Just because the majority of people don't like what you've said doesn't mean your right to free speech was violated. It means you spoke poorly.

 

[LionPride]

Being intelligent and being a bigot are two contradictions. It's like those fraud scientists who say they can disprove climate change or push creationism.

Don't let the degrees fool you into thinking they're not in over themselves.

No, you can be intelligent and be a bigot. They are not exclusive terms.

 

[Mael]

Hopefully KF content might be watchable once again.

Seriously!
Discovered them on the lead to the Switch launch and they had some Zelda vids.
Gaf shared the shitty Colin was right stuffs and now I avoid anything to do with KFG.

 

[ZeoVGM]

what are you trying to say? that I should get banned? for what?

You are literally refusing to understand the issue and not explaining yourself whatsoever.

What are you defending here? Why? Why do you feel it's important to defend people who are being factually sexist and/or racist?

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Colin will get funded by certain groups to do whatever he wants to do next, probably some shitty internet talk show of sorts, because we certainly need another one of those. So, I don't know about all this "consequences" talk in regards to him, I'd imagine he couldn't be happier.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Colin is a dumbass. I've stated this many times.

Yeah. I hope that post didn't read as me going @ you, just reinforcing a point

 

[Jebusman]

cuz he doesnt think like you?

I mean it could be the pages and pages of willful ignorance to try and defend someone's right to proclaim that non-white races are subhuman, as if that's an opinion we desperately need to hear, but no, it's "totally" because he's not in on the echo chamber.

 

[Ponn]

what are you trying to say? that I should get banned? for what?

Out of all the responses you got this is the only one you chose to reply to.

 

[Poltergust]

No, you can be intelligent and be a bigot. They are not exclusive terms.

I would argue that bigotry is founded on ignorance, at least in most cases.

 

[Lime]

Here's the point:

You can say whatever you want. You WILL and CAN be judged on what you say. Just because the majority of people don't like what you've said doesn't mean your right to free speech was violated. It means you spoke poorly.

People like Colin just want to shit on women and minorities without getting criticism from it. That's basically their whole victimization stick when they cry about free speech and SJWs and too many brown and black people and poor people should die on the street.

 

[dirron]

I didn't agree with his politics or some of his stances on issues but I will miss his point of view and the times he made me think of a side of the issue I didn't think of. I will mostly miss his lambasting of poor game write ups on the Playstation Blog. God some of those are awful.

 

[Gator86]

The parameters of free speech. This truly is an interesting concept at this point.

I don't think "WE" as a society have quite figured out how to address the contures of free speech in the internet age.

Government, we can all say...government can't limit free speech...but I do think both the megaphone the interenet can be...and the reaction to it is something we haven't figured out yet.

Even discussing free speech is a diversionary tactic here. It's is literally unrelated in any way. A person with a job said dumb shit that reflected poorly on the company and arrangements were made for him to leave as to not sully the brand further. If anything this is an example of the free market working. He should be thrilled.

 

[SirClinksAlot]

The parameters of free speech. This truly is an interesting concept at this point.

I don't think "WE" as a society have quite figured out how to address the contures of free speech in the internet age.

Government, we can all say...government can't limit free speech...but I do think both the megaphone the interenet can be...and the reaction to it is something we haven't figured out yet.

Figure out what? Colin put his bullshit out there. People reacted (quite slowly, really) and Colin took his ball and is running to somewhere his shitty opinions will be tolerated. Nobody at Kinda Funny or any of their fans are obligated to put up with his shitty opinions or jokes.

 

[Lambtron]

Colin will get funded by certain groups to do whatever he wants to do next, probably some shitty internet talk show of sorts, because we certainly need another one of those. So, I don't know about all this "consequences" talk in regards to him, I'd imagine he couldn't be happier.

Breitbart recently lost their tech editor.

 

[……forgetit]

Like Lao Tzu said, "knowledge over others is intelligence, knowledge over self is wisdom" Bannanon seems to have knowledge over a certain demographic so I guess you could say he is intelligent. But thats other peoples fault for being stupid.

Looking at the guy's resume he seems pretty smart actually. That's not saying much though, there are plenty of intelligent conservative minds, the thing they have in common though is a lack of empathy that boarders on being sociopaths. It's a shame he didn't use his education for good.

Spoiler

also I don't use the label sociopath lightly. I've known several actually diagnosed sociopaths. Bannon really seems like one.

 

[Con Con]

Like so many here I watched/listened to him for years. Like so many here, I'm on the left of the political spectrum.

I still appreciated his views and opinions. I feel the worse for Greg, ironically. They're best friends and for it to end this way can't be how they imagined it.

What my point is, I'm sad that everything is so polarized now. We're all on edge. Hope he lands on his feet, and I hope their friendships remain intact

 

[stump sock]

I don't think that there are that many people here saying he shouldn't be able to say what he wants. In fact, I fully support his right to say whatever dumb shit he wants to say. I also support his critics saying whatever they want to say about him.

Heck for someone so enamored with the free market, I'm sure he should appreciate the fact that it has spoken here.

 

[LionPride]

I would argue that bigotry is founded on ignorance, at least in most cases.

It is, but a person can still be intelligent. Just ignorant.

 

[Kralamoonard]

IDK what some of you have against TB or just equating him to what you know of him around GG, but equating him to that is reductionist and undermines how people can change (just look at his views in the recent election).

 

[ScientificPizza]

Colin will get funded by certain groups to do whatever he wants to do next, probably some shitty internet talk show of sorts, because we certainly need another one of those. So, I don't know about all this "consequences" talk in regards to him, I'd imagine he couldn't be happier.

He's going to have the same problem that guys like Sargon has (though I'm not proposing Colin is as bad as Sargon) where they are supported and funded by an audience that they largely dislike

 

[Deadpool_X]

I mean, I know this is the gaming side of the forum, but this sort of sums up how this hobby is doomed to be the tire fire it is when it comes to progressive politics.

"Man he can believe whatever he wants, that's cool, but man I draw the line at how much of a Sony fanboy he was. The nerve of him! Over the line.".

I don't give a single shit about anyone's politics. Believe what you want. However, I expect you to be a professional in your, well, profession. Allowing personal bias, either for or against something, to blind your professionalism and outlook on something is a no-no to me. It isn't just a Sony thing either. I feel the same about any professional gaming journalist who fanboys over a brand to the point of it interfering with objectivity in the work place.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

my opinions are very clear. I support Colin, I support everyone's right to say whatever they want and I am against echo chambers.

An idea is not inherently valuable. People either determine that it's a bad or a good idea, and some groups of people will come to a consensus. It's also human nature to gravitate towards groups who share similar values.

 

[Mael]

Breitbart recently lost their tech editor.

Colin just have to not be ok with pedophilia and he'll be golden!

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Breitbart recently lost their tech editor.

No idea. I do know there's gonna be plenty of idiots out there treating this as some kind of persecution, because they love that shit and will be throwing money his way, if that's the route he chooses to go down.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Being intelligent and being a bigot are two contradictions. It's like those fraud scientists who say they can disprove climate change or push creationism.

Don't let the degrees fool you into thinking they're not in over themselves.

I would argue that bigotry is founded on ignorance, at least in most cases.

It's dangerous to write off all bigots as dumb or ignorant. The ones who aren't know how to manipulate the ones who are for personal gain while increasing their numbers, while earning sympathy from people who, if you ask them outright, will tell you they don't support bigotry. You can see it in this very thread.

 

[Boke1879]

Colin will get funded by certain groups to do whatever he wants to do next, probably some shitty internet talk show of sorts, because we certainly need another one of those. So, I don't know about all this "consequences" talk in regards to him, I'd imagine he couldn't be happier.

Right? He's going to be fine at the end of the day. He probably got bored with video games anyway. He'll probably have some internet talk show about politics and that will be his true passion.

That said. I'm done. Colin is most likely out of gaming thus I dn't give a rats ass what he does. JonTron definitely deserves the out rage right now

 

[SomedayTheFire]

I don't give a single shit about anyone's politics. Believe what you want. However, I expect you to be a professional in your, well, profession. Allowing personal bias, either for or against something, to blind your professionalism and outlook on something is a no-no to me. It isn't just a Sony thing either. I feel the same about any professional gaming journalist who fanboys over a brand to the point of it interfering with objectivity in the work place.

This is a bizarre post.