I think I've turned around on this somehow. I initially viewed the joke as nothing, because I thought Colin genuinely just meant it as a bad joke. Then people rightfully pointed out that making it on that day was kind of in poor taste. Then people pointed out that he probably meant to trigger people with it... to prove his point or whatever. It just feels shitty no matter how you look at it. I do think calling him alt-right and being hyperbolic about the tweet or his personality in general isn't the right approach. I just wish neither side overreacted, and I wish Colin actually acted reasonably and kept a reasonable tone here. He always asks people to be more reasonable, and is often raising very reasonable points... but he often talks in such an aggressive tone, that what he says ends up being lost. He's basically accusing the opposite side of doing what he tends to do himself. It's hypocritical, and I wish he could see it, because I really do think he's capable of being very eloquent and of making good points. I also think he's shown he has the capacity to reconsider and change his mind often, as any reasonable person should be able to do. His tone, however, has consistently been problematic in the past (to me), and I'm sad that it ended up driving him out of the industry.
Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.
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I think I've turned around on this somehow. I initially viewed the joke as nothing, because I thought Colin genuinely just meant it as a bad joke. Then people rightfully pointed out that making it on that day was kind of in poor taste. Then people pointed out that he probably meant to trigger people with it... to prove his point or whatever. It just feels shitty no matter how you look at it. I do think calling him alt-right and being hyperbolic about the tweet or his personality in general isn't the right approach. I just wish neither side overreacted, and I wish Colin actually acted reasonably and kept a reasonable tone here. He always asks people to be more reasonable, and is often raising very reasonable points... but he often talks in such an aggressive tone, that what he says ends up being lost. He's basically accusing the opposite side of doing what he tends to do himself. It's hypocritical, and I wish he could see it, because I really do think he's capable of being very eloquent and of making good points. I also think he's shown he has the capacity to reconsider and change his mind often, as any reasonable person should be able to do. His tone, however, has consistently been problematic in the past (to me), and I'm sad that it ended up driving him out of the industry.
Darryl M R
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I don't see how it is weird at all. Context matters. On the show you know they are being light hearted.
Colin has done actions that have been obviously mean spirited.
Yep Colin is outspoken with his ignorance and he likes to tear people down.
KZXcellent
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The dream is that KindaFunny gets Brian Altano to join. I doubt he'll leave IGN though.
Uno Venova
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Loosing Colin probably isn't going to be great for Kinda Funny. Colin was Right consistently has much higher views than their other weekly videos.
meanspartan
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Im confused why you think an opinion piece definitively proves Colin is a bad person, but w/e.
This guy left the GOP cuz he hated Trump. He isnt the enemy. When Hillary won the nomination, he praised it as a big deal for women even though he despises her.
He's just not the boogeyman for me, sorry.
Well said, have a hard time disagreeing here.
Bolivar687
Banned
Your logic does not work.
International policies by the last two Democratic presidents and advocated by the last candidate included free market globalization and multilateral trade agreements, which have objectively led to the mass suffering of all non-whites in the southern hemisphere and the "race to the bottom" in both wages and living conditions in developing nations.
I can't call you a proponent of genocide anymore than you can call moderate Republicans racists.
It's definitely the "freedom of speech" strip with changed text. Pretty dumb.
No its cool, this is a heated discussion and thats understandable. A big thing thats been going wrong is people stating facts that make people uncomfortable and those shelling up and just throwing in with these groups. Which just defies logic but respect to you for facing it just don't give up on trying or worse trying to silence the oppressed because once you do that can you honestly call yourself an ally or supporter of those groups?
And I also get the denial of seeing our heroes or idols in a bad light or the facade crumbling. I'm an 80's kids who watched shows like Cosby Show, loved wrestling and begged my parents to get Wrestlemania every year and listened to Michael Jackson all day every day. Idols are human beings, and human beings are fallible.
facetheslayer92
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I can't see this happening sadly. Dude is hilarious tho.
Darryl M R
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Did you click on the sources and read the piece? Also thanks for providing points to an argument no one is having.
chromatic9
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Hopefully everyone can get back to Ghost Recon® Wildlands soon.
Obliterator
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I agree Context matters, but in regards to Colin's joke (which was indeed shit / not funny) they take it several degrees further than that on the Morning Show on a regular basis.
I'm just sorta surprised they've never caught heat for that stuff.
Darryl M R
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They have been criticized for their jokes. And once again the most important thing is context. What Colin constantly does is different than the other hosts. Greg said it best. Colin puts up stuff for groans, not laughs.
Are you actually going to try to argue against the post I quoted or are you just going to go with the "b.b.b.but Democrats" defense?
Edit: also i'm a registered Independant because I don't always agree with the democratic platform. I vote and try to change for the least damaging policies to human beings as possible which is why I supported Hillary finally listening to the no TPP arguments. What have Republicans done again to try and change their party for the better?
Ivan A Nguyen
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I was just listening to the latest PS I love you XOXO this week. I was troubled when Colin went off the deep end on the use of 'Brave' and the non backlash it caused. It seemed like normal collin until he went full crazy and started saying things like "the war on women" is made up. That's where I lost any respect I might have had for him holding different opinions. He seemed like a right wing guy who was really fed up with towing the PC line and after 3 months of a new trump America he really wanted to come out of his shell.
meanspartan
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The discussion seemed to be he is a bad person cuz his politics suck.
Im just pointing out that he isnt even that far right wing.
It's cool, this is pointless. Think what ypu will bout him I guess.
Dangansona
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What is the article headline that they were alerted to mid stream that upset them?
Edit: it was Polygon: "Colin Moriarty Quits Kinda Funny After Sexist Tweet"
Edit: it was Polygon: "Colin Moriarty Quits Kinda Funny After Sexist Tweet"
Darryl M R
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I can see how you can come to that conclusion about this discussion if you didn't read any posts actually explaining why people consider him a bad person.
Love him or hate him, CM brought visibility to KF and wasn't dull. Aside from Greg, the others are kinda boring. If Greg leaves...
streetsahead123
Banned
His response to the tweet that kicked all this off was fucking perfect
https://twitter.com/agentbizzle/status/839547467477598208
SolidChamp
Banned
The fact that even I thought of this proves it's just too easy.
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
Well,
I have a hard time seeing what Colin posts to Twitter and then reconciling that with how much I've kind of enjoyed his recent content via Colin Was Right.
For every one person accusing another of smug, self-righteous political posturing, there's another doing the same exact thing with the only difference being the matter of perspective. Colin, for all his posturing, is absolutely guilty of just playing this stupid game.
Free speech feels like it's eroding because we keep saying that free speech is being threatened by, well, free speech. I see all of these Twitter backlashes (reasonably) happen, and then the person at fault for instigating it claims their free speech is under attack (conveniently because some people get heated enough to basically say "shut the fuck up") when in fact people are just practicing their free speech to express their disagreement. Oh, boohoo, people said my joke was shit and I'm a victim of oppression of speech -- oh well, I'll just play it off like everyone else is being an unreasonable human being and ride my victim stature like a high horse.
Man, if you don't want to get stung, don't kick the fucking hive y'fucking moron(s).
I maybe wanted to say a lot more here but I'm honestly just feeling really damn exhausted with this schoolyard bait-and-switching all the time. I had a glimmer of hope that Colin, as someone I don't share beliefs with, was maybe producing work that could start bridging the gap, but he just takes to Twitter and joins in the stupid-ass fuss like the vast majority of us fucking morons and just squanders it all as quick as it started looking good.
I had hope that political discourse could maybe maturely integrate into games, and there are some people that still do good work, but it keeps getting sent off to walled gardens, and sometimes big potential like Colin go and fuck it all up because they just had to give in to the satisfaction of annoying people, because games culture just never can escape the urge to annoy the fuck out of itself any which way it can. One of us stands up and triggers the rest of us, we all start, without hesitation or thinking about it, acting shocked, appalled, disgusted, straight to our guts, straight to our anger, and I just really don't fucking want to do it anymore (I'm doing it right now).
It's too "fun" to give up, apparently. We're all about fucking ourselves with that spirit of "fun," it seems.
Fuck me, fuck Colin right now, press sneak fuck and button mash to anger or some shit
I have a hard time seeing what Colin posts to Twitter and then reconciling that with how much I've kind of enjoyed his recent content via Colin Was Right.
For every one person accusing another of smug, self-righteous political posturing, there's another doing the same exact thing with the only difference being the matter of perspective. Colin, for all his posturing, is absolutely guilty of just playing this stupid game.
Free speech feels like it's eroding because we keep saying that free speech is being threatened by, well, free speech. I see all of these Twitter backlashes (reasonably) happen, and then the person at fault for instigating it claims their free speech is under attack (conveniently because some people get heated enough to basically say "shut the fuck up") when in fact people are just practicing their free speech to express their disagreement. Oh, boohoo, people said my joke was shit and I'm a victim of oppression of speech -- oh well, I'll just play it off like everyone else is being an unreasonable human being and ride my victim stature like a high horse.
Man, if you don't want to get stung, don't kick the fucking hive y'fucking moron(s).
I maybe wanted to say a lot more here but I'm honestly just feeling really damn exhausted with this schoolyard bait-and-switching all the time. I had a glimmer of hope that Colin, as someone I don't share beliefs with, was maybe producing work that could start bridging the gap, but he just takes to Twitter and joins in the stupid-ass fuss like the vast majority of us fucking morons and just squanders it all as quick as it started looking good.
I had hope that political discourse could maybe maturely integrate into games, and there are some people that still do good work, but it keeps getting sent off to walled gardens, and sometimes big potential like Colin go and fuck it all up because they just had to give in to the satisfaction of annoying people, because games culture just never can escape the urge to annoy the fuck out of itself any which way it can. One of us stands up and triggers the rest of us, we all start, without hesitation or thinking about it, acting shocked, appalled, disgusted, straight to our guts, straight to our anger, and I just really don't fucking want to do it anymore (I'm doing it right now).
It's too "fun" to give up, apparently. We're all about fucking ourselves with that spirit of "fun," it seems.
Fuck me, fuck Colin right now, press sneak fuck and button mash to anger or some shit
I don't even know anymore and I probably deserve a ban for actually submitting this (garbage) post. Sorry mods. Sorry GAF. This was the truest way I could express myself right now. If I'm excommunicado now, I hope y'all live happy lives.
Ivan A Nguyen
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PS XOXO I love you ep 77. This is where Colin speaks pretty much about what is going on, but from the "I ain't going anywhere" side of the coin.
Obliterator
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I actually kinda am really not a fan of any of the other KF guys except Tim. Who can be a tad plain sometimes as well, but it worked off of Greg's eccentric nature and Colin's more controversial / sometimes negative view points. That said, strictly talking about games discussion, I find Colin to be far better than anyone else at KF even when I disagreed with a lot of what he says in regards to gaming. He would at least really bring up interesting points of views and discussion.
I'm not sure I can really sit down and watch much KF content without Colin there. Greg is just too much for my tastes and Tim doesn't really feel like he will have anyone else to work off of. Luckily Easy Allies are going strong as they are my main "personalities" for gaming but I'll likely be watching significantly less KF content
The funny thing is watching all the people screaming Colin's tweet was just a joke but being triggered by Brian's tweet. #specialsnowflakes
FlaygletheBagel
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Probably won't happen, but I'd love to see someone like Vince Ingenito join. Now that would make me become a patron.
Serenitynow
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I'll miss Colin. As mainly a Nintendo fan, I didn't always agree with him. But he is very intelligent, and I would have loved to debate with him about Nintendo (God knows Tim can't do it). I fear KF might be a little too goofy without him. He certainly leveled everybody out. He'll be tough to replace.
Not much to say about his politics except that I thought he represented his views well on the Rubin Report, not so much so in the tweet.
Not much to say about his politics except that I thought he represented his views well on the Rubin Report, not so much so in the tweet.
boredandlazy
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If you were in my house and called my mother a bitch, would I be stifling your freedom of speech by telling you to get the fuck out? Or should I handle it 'the civilised way' by agreeing to disagree?
Yeah... going to look more into Easy Allies, I've seen a few of their reviews but now is a good time for me to see who they are outside of that.
I like EZ too. Bossman is just so likeable; Bloodworth is weird in a very good way, I wish he was on the main pod more.
This is easily the most frustrating thing about Colin. It's inconsistent.
I fell out of listening to EZA as I was inundated with podcasts during election season last year, but guess I'll go back to checking out EZA and Giantbomb on a more regular basis. I think I'll be giving KF a bit of a break while they regroup and restructure.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Well that sucks. I've been a fan of Greg's and his work together since way back. One doesn't quite work without the other.
Sounds like a hypocrite to me
Obliterator
Member
They are really damn fun, and overall good vibes.
One thing to note, is expect a major drop off in production values compared to Kinda Funny. EZA are pretty DIY in regards to that but the actual content is great. Best place to start with them is the weekly podcast and the Podcast Frame Trap that goes up bi-weekly
J_ToSaveTheDay
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IMO, they're very "garage band" enthusiast press. I love it. Reminds me of Weezer's 1994 Blue Album, but their strong penmanship for review/preview content and Brandon Jones' trailer voice are capable of elevating some of their work to pretty straight-faced, sophisticated levels.
Highly recommend.
I love EZA and love KF. Content-wise, my preferrence probably goes to EZA, but their biggest issue is that they lack production values and the staff being full-time (Gametrailers was truly fantastic and at their very best when The Final Bosman was on. That show was essentially Colin Was Right, but much better. Not trying to diss CWR here, I liked the show a lot, but TFB truly was something very special using that same format).
Basically, them essentially "merging" and keeping all content + KF's production values, AND creating new shows with everyone's input sounds like an insane impossible dream...but man would I love seeing it happen, somehow.
eh. to me the "joke" on a day that was essentially the antithesis of that joke just to get a rise out of people seems far worse than ribbing a coworker. then again i haven't heard what you're describing as racist so i really can't compare.
Obliterator
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Tim and Greg are both big fans of the Allies (especially Tim it seems) and have hinted around before of them doing something together.
I really hope at some point we get a KF × EZA super stream or super podcast or something. Would be a lot of fun.
I've actually secretly been hoping for a long time Tim leaves KF and joins EZA. I know that will never happen but he seems a far better fit for for the Allies
Darryl M R
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Feel free to explain how you can ignore context and intent.
Killerhertz
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I was just checking his feed out to see who he is and what happened... then I saw 311 was his favorite band and realized no matter what I'm sure I wouldn't agree or defend him
KZXcellent
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Onimusha78
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Some of the political things he said in the past year pissed me off so much that I unsubscribed from KF. Guess It's time for me to hit that subscribe button again. I've missed Nick lol
ScientificPizza
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In his defence calling his joke racist is ridiculous
This, however, is painfully stupid
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