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[chicko1983]

Bama's consistency should be enough for anyone trying to pick someone at this point. Week in week out they are way better than everyone else. 44 game win streak against unranked opponents is awesome.

yeah, I think that they should be in the championship game as they are the reigning champion and so would be good if they got the chance to remain or pass the baton on.

Jameis Winston though, he was unbelievable. I would like to see him win the Championship and Heisman as a freshman.

Instantly eclipse Johnny Manziel. It would really annoy him.

Johnny is still the best to watch in CFB though. Every TAM drive you feel as though they could score.

If he rests this week, they will lose.

 

[bucknuticus]

I have never really wished anyone to get hurt, but I would be 100% fine with JFF breaking a leg

 

[Balphon]

We're trying to copy that SECSECSEC swag by scheduling an inferior opponent the week before rivalry week.

If that's the case, ya'll gotta go lower.

I hear Grambling State needs money.

 

[Enfinit]

I have never really wished anyone to get hurt, but I would be 100% fine with JFF breaking a leg

The guy's a cocky tool.

The sad thing is he has every right to be. But fuck if he isn't the biggest douche bag in college sports.

If that's the case, ya'll gotta go lower.

I hear Grambling State needs money.

They wouldn't even show up.

 

[chicko1983]

I have never really wished anyone to get hurt, but I would be 100% fine with JFF breaking a leg

JFF = Johnny F'ing Football = Johnny Manziel??

He is annoying which is why I would like Famous Jameis to win the MNC and Heisman.

Then, in the future, Johnny couldnt ever be mentioned as the greatest freshman ever without Jameis' name popping up.

I couldnt wish for an injury on someone, so I will wish for Jameis to eclipse JFF.

 

[zyxwvu4321]

JFF = Johnny F'ing Football = Johnny Manziel??

Yep

 

[Yaboosh]

I feel like JFF gets the hate because of people's reactions to him not his own actions. Like Tebow. Jameis could easily have the same fate.

 

[cashman]

I feel like JFF gets the hate because of people's reactions to him not his own actions. Like Tebow. Jameis could easily have the same fate

Agreed. It's hard for me to hate Johnny since he's a Longhorn at heart. Same with Fameis Jameis.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Agreed. It's hard for me to hate Johnny since he's a Longhorn at heart. Same with Fameis Jameis.

And RGIII

 

[chicko1983]

Agreed. It's hard for me to hate Johnny since he's a Longhorn at heart. Same with Fameis Jameis.

Jameis is from Alabama, isnt he?

 

[zyxwvu4321]

Every really good college QB is a Longhorn at heart.

 

[cashman]

Jameis is from Alabama, isnt he?

Yeah but he was a huge Vince Young fan

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews...en-offer-id-be-going-to-texas-right-now.html/

and I was mostly joking about Jameis since I doubt he would've come to UT even if they did offer, but Johnny is definitely a big time Longhorn fan.

 

[Quake1028]

God, I cannot stomach the thought of losing to FSU twice in one season. I don't think it will come to that, because VaTech is too tough of a game after a big rivalry game, but still, the mere thought gives me the creeps.

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

You know, Famous Jameis has his own little "I'm swag as fuck" thing going on that could get very old very quickly. I like him way more than Manziel for now, but we'll see. It's only been half a season.

 

[cashman]

In related news: David Ash, the actual QB for Texas, is out again for the next game against TCU. I'm starting to worry about his career at this point.

 

[Lonestar]

Bama's consistency should be enough for anyone trying to pick someone at this point. Week in week out they are way better than everyone else. 44 game win streak against unranked opponents is awesome.

No Upsets for us in awhile, thank God.

Bama is 18-7 since 2008 against Ranked teams

Same time period:
Oregon is 8-7
LSU is 12-14
OSUn is 10-8
FSU is 8-12
Stanford is 9-7
Georgia is 7-18
Florida is 11-17
Boise State is 5-4

All this is by me adding the records from cfbstats.com by memory, so I'm probably off by 100%, but it's up to you to prove your math is good.

 

[Kacar]

tOSU would still make it over any one-loss team I still think, well at least I hope. We need UM and MSU to win most of their games so we have more quality oppanents at the end of the year.

Would be pretty funny if the year before a 4 game playoff if 4 AQ conference teams all finished undefeated, but this is the time of the year that the undefeated start thinning out, theres really nothing we can do but keep winning.

Edit: over any one loss except Bama I think. If their loss was really close or something.

 

[Enfinit]

You know, Famous Jameis has his own little "I'm swag as fuck" thing going on that could get very old very quickly. I like him way more than Manziel for now, but we'll see. It's only been half a season.

Don't take his confidence as cockiness.

 

[chicko1983]

Don't take his confidence as cockiness.

there is a very fine line between the two and that line would differ from person to person.

In my opinion, he is confident, not cocky.

 

[perfectchaos007]

In related news: David Ash, the actual QB for Texas, is out again for the next game against TCU. I'm starting to worry about his career at this point.

Yeah unfortunately he will forever be at a high risk for concussions so he'll need to evaluate the risk v. reward at some point. A few years ago our RB Tre Newton decided to hang it up after all the concussions he endured. I don't know how many months/years off your life a concussion can take, but if you're not a high NFL prospect looking at a future 7 figure salary, I wouldn't see much of a reason to keep potentially cutting away at your lifespan with every blow

 

[devildog820]

Gator boards are on fire about Pease. Even dug into Baylor boards from 2005 and found the exact same criticisms being leveled against the Gator offense right now.

 

[devildog820]

Don't take his confidence as cockiness.

It's sounds like what Bill Murray said about Chevy Chase. Paraphrased:

When someone gets famous they become an asshole. Can't be helped. They either sort it out after several months or they permanently become an asshole.

JFF has taken the latter route, it seems.

 

[mre]

Gator boards are on fire about Pease. Even dug into Baylor boards from 2005 and found the exact same criticisms being leveled against the Gator offense right now.

Baylor boards existed back in 2005?

Baylor boards exist today?

 

[devildog820]

Baylor boards existed back in 2005?

Baylor boards exist today?

I'm as surprised as the next guy.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Gator boards are on fire about Pease. Even dug into Baylor boards from 2005 and found the exact same criticisms being leveled against the Gator offense right now.

You know what the problem of Baylor in 2005 was?

They were Baylor.

And once Art Briles leaves, they will probably regress to Baylor again.

 

[Battlezone]

That "OSU is the best BCS-era team" discussion from earlier today was just ridiculous. OSU hasn't been nearly as bad as the media and nerds on the Internet would have you believe, but with one title and no victories* over the SEC over the last eight years, they're nowhere near the top. Whoever had them fourth/fifth in the BCS era seems about right.

I also hate that 2007 gets held against Ohio State. 2007 was a complete dumpster fire, NOBODY seemed to want to win that thing. I think OSU dropped completely out of the top five with four weeks to go after losing to Illinois. Everybody thought they were out of the title discussion; that was the textbook definition of backing into the title game. Wasn't that also the year of LSU being undefeated in regulation?

 

[mre]

That "OSU is the best BCS-era team" discussion from earlier today was just ridiculous. OSU hasn't been nearly as bad as the media and nerds on the Internet would have you believe, but with one title and no victories* over the SEC over the last eight years, they're nowhere near the top. Whoever had them fourth/fifth in the BCS era seems about right.

I also hate that 2007 gets held against Ohio State. 2007 was a complete dumpster fire, NOBODY seemed to want to win that thing. I think OSU dropped completely out of the top five with four weeks to go after losing to Illinois. Everybody thought they were out of the title discussion; that was the textbook definition of backing into the title game. Wasn't that also the year of LSU being undefeated in regulation?

Yep.

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

Don't take his confidence as cockiness.

No, no - like I said, he's on my good side. Firmly so at that. Just saying, the potential for high degrees of annoyance is there. It's early.

 

[Kacar]

That "OSU is the best BCS-era team" discussion from earlier today was just ridiculous. OSU hasn't been nearly as bad as the media and nerds on the Internet would have you believe, but with one title and no victories* over the SEC over the last eight years, they're nowhere near the top. Whoever had them fourth/fifth in the BCS era seems about right.

I also hate that 2007 gets held against Ohio State. 2007 was a complete dumpster fire, NOBODY seemed to want to win that thing. I think OSU dropped completely out of the top five with four weeks to go after losing to Illinois. Everybody thought they were out of the title discussion; that was the textbook definition of backing into the title game. Wasn't that also the year of LSU being undefeated in regulation?

We had Todd Boeckman at qb, It was literally a miracle we were in the MNC.

 

[Lonestar]

Hmmm, so Sagarin is part of the BCS deciding factor, huh?


http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/bethune-cookman_no_4_in_bcs_sa.html

1. FSU
2. Alabama
3. Missouri
4. Bethune Cookman
5. Oregon
6. Northern Illinois
7. Fordham
8. Oregon State
9. Virginia Tech
10. Coastal Carolina
11. Ohio State
12. North Dakota State
13. Auburn
14. Texas Tech
15. UCLA
16. Miami
17. Clemson
18. Baylor
19. Stanford
20. Fresno State
21. Lehigh
22. Tennessee State
23. Central Florida
24. Eastern Illinois
25. Ole Miss

 

[Jhriad]

Annoying post #14 Go Blue!!

The quality of Ohio State CFBGAF sure has taken a hit recently.

 

[pxleyes]

lost by 7 against florid[/b]a due to the special teams in a meaningless game with an interim head coach.

41 minus 14. Yep, check out. Ohio State math.

 

[Battlezone]

41 minus 14. Yep, check out. Ohio State math.

Not to defend him, but I think he was talking about the Gator Bowl from a few years ago. Although what that has to do with the BCS, I have no idea.

 

[cashman]

Hmmm, so Sagarin is part of the BCS deciding factor, huh?


http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/bethune-cookman_no_4_in_bcs_sa.html

Seems like quality of teams that you lose to is being weighted heavier than quality of teams beaten.

 

[Kevtones]

Alabama, Oregon, FSU, Ohio State will all be undefeated.

Would have been a great year if the four team playoff was in as I think they are all pretty evenly matched.

After Saturday, FSU is my pick to win it.

They have the best combined offence and defence.

Bama's offense is not good enough.
Oregon's defence is the worst out of the above four teams.
Ohio State doesnt have as good offense or defense as FSU.

Yards per play rank out of the four:


3. FSU
8. Oregon (see Leach is low class comments)
13. Alabama
31. Ohio State


Seriously though, go here to be better informed.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Yards per play rank out of the four:


3. FSU
8. Oregon (see Leach is low class comments)
13. Alabama
31. Ohio State


Seriously though, go here to be better informed.

You play to the whistle. WVU was down 66-21 at the beginning of the 4th quarter against Baylor a couple weeks ago, and WVU scored 21 points in the 4th quarter against Baylors 3rd team defense. You didn't hear any of Baylors coaches whining in their press conference for WVU scoring meaningless late TD's. If protecting stats was more important than making sure your 1st team remains healthy for the next game, then put out your 1st team defense, otherwise respect your opponent and don't cry when they shred your backups.

 

[dont call it a comeback]

41 minus 14. Yep, check out. Ohio State math.

Talking about a game from 2007 doesn't make much sense when you are trying to predict how a team will compete against a conference now. Now talking about the last 2 years, that makes a bit more sense.

 

[dont call it a comeback]

OSUn is 10-8

By the way people talk here, I would imagine their record would be 0-18.

 

[desh]

I take solace in the fact that when FSU beats us next weekend, it will move them down in the polls.

Your team is NC State in this scenario?

IF we make it to the MNC game this year, I will personally buy John Fulton a ticket to Miami.

Now your team is Alabama? How many teams do you have?

As it stands, a 1 loss Pac-12 team would get in the national championship over an undefeated Big 12 team. We've fallen hard as a conference this year.

What if that team is Oregon State?

 

[Kevtones]

You play to the whistle. WVU was down 66-21 at the beginning of the 4th quarter against Baylor a couple weeks ago, and WVU scored 21 points in the 4th quarter against Baylors 3rd team defense. You didn't hear any of Baylors coaches whining in their press conference for WVU scoring meaningless late TD's. If protecting stats was more important than making sure your 1st team remains healthy for the next game, then put out your 1st team defense, otherwise respect your opponent and don't cry when they shred your backups.

I'm not really arguing for Aliotti's comments, although Leach left his first-string in for a reason on both sides of the ball. Methinks one should have more of a philosophy of 'building talent' as opposed to risking injury of your normal players. Why not get game experience for your future players? What does that say to recruits?

Every other team Oregon has played sans Washington (who challenged Oregon), played their second/third lines when the game was over in the 3rd quarter.



What I'm saying is that Oregon is really hard to pin down statistically but they have a very good defense. They play better on the road and they're very talented (even after losing Dion Jordan and Kiko Alonso etc.).

I'd argue they have one of the best secondaries in the nation despite the 557 yards thrown on them yesterday (132 and two TDs with WSU's first string playing against Oregon's scout in the final four minutes left of the game).

Oregon's pass defense rankings after yesterday's game:

They rank:
DEAD LAST at #125 in attempts/game
DEAD LAST at #125 in total attempts
#9 in QB rating
#3 in yards/attempt

 

[mre]

Seems like quality of teams that you lose to is being weighted heavier than quality of teams beaten.

I FUCKING KNEW IT. SUCK IT, GONDO.

Your team is NC State in this scenario?


Now your team is Alabama? How many teams do you have?

As many as it takes, son. As many as it takes.

 

[perfectchaos007]

What if that team is Oregon State?

That would be awesome. If LSU can get in the MNC for being "undefeated in regulation" 5 years ago, Oregon State could get in on the line "undefeated in FBS play"

 

[cdyhybrid]

RIP Coach James

 

[Kevtones]

That would be awesome. If LSU can get in the MNC for being "undefeated in regulation" 5 years ago, Oregon State could get in on the line "undefeated in FBS play"

They tried to play that up with Oregon last year. Didn't work, sadly.

RIP Coach James

Sorry to hear. Man had his tactics but they were winning. Rest in peace.

 

[dont call it a comeback]

What I'm saying is that Oregon is really hard to pin down statistically but they have a very good defense. They play better on the road and they're very talented (even after losing Dion Jordan and Kiko Alonso etc.).

Considering Oregon has played just one team in the Top 50 of scoring offense (The huskies), the verdict is still out on that.

Their next 3 opponents (UCLA, Stanford, Utah) all are in Top 40 in scoring offense. Guess we will find out next week.

 

[Lonestar]

Well, to paraphrase the YPP defensively rating for Alabama (#13 total) and OSUn's (31st), they actually played a team in the top 10 for Offensive YPP this year, and no, Clemson didn't shoot down because they played FSU (Their 6.3 ypp would be about 30th)

FSU's Best: 21st Maryland (50th Pitt would be next, followed by 51st Clemson)
Oregon's: 49th Washington (69th WSU would be next)

OSUn: 7th Wisconsin (58th Northwestern would be next)
Alabama: 6th A&M (55th Kentucky would be next)

Stats for EVERYTHING.

(Healthy JFF + Healthy Mike Evans + John Fulton - Deion Belue = W)$*GH#P($V*NSD) Good thing that Oregon's offense isn't based on "run around for 15 seconds and then run or pass.

 

[Kevtones]

I looked up EVERY team all four played and Alabama/FSU were ahead but OSU and Oregon lagged. However, OSU has played a higher opponent but a lot of shit and they haven't been in blowouts.


I'd rank them defensively:


1. Bama
2. FSU
3. Oregon
4. OSU

 

[Balphon]

Remember that "Sagarin" should always be prefaced with "noted Patriot League homer."

FTFY.

 

[Kevtones]

ps fighting the good fight lol

 

[dont call it a comeback]

Ohio State's secondary is borderline terrible and riddled with injuries. However, their rush defense has shown potential. It is funny considering the only semi-decent offense tOSU has played all year was where the defense performed at their best.

After getting so acquainted with Tressel-ball, watching our defense the last few years is flat out unbearable. Can't tackle, broken coverages everywhere, soft...hard to swallow.