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College Football 2016 Week Twelve: Why bother? Just give tOSU the trophy.
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bucknuticus
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3-1 vs top 8 cfp. Nuff said. ESPN just wasted 5 min of our lives telling us USC, whos lost 3 games, deserves a shot. Naaaaaah
MugiwaraCole
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Alabama's senior class has a 48-5 record. Jesus Christ.
Apparently Boise's Wazzu win means something now, even though they've underranked Wazzu from the start.
What a joke. WMU deserves the autobid if they win out.
bucknuticus
Member
"What's the difference between two and three (losses)?!" -- A thing that somebody on ESPN just said.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
97 Nebraska's fifth year seniors had gone 60-3.
Hippopuncher12
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As much as they would deserve it if they win out. Alabama is in...if Clemson wins out they are in...Penn State would go ahead of them if they win the B10 (And they should) Washington is subjective but going from past experiences I think they would take them if they win the Pac 12. So in my opinion just winning isn't enough they need someone to lose or again if Wisconsin beats Penn State for the B10 title I believe they would still take OSU because of the head to head at Camp Randall.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
also requires Wisconsin to beat Minnesota
bucknuticus
Member
Fifth years don't count!
Norte dame and 2015 Ohio state class are only senior classes to win 50 games
Future Foundation
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Boise might not make it's title game, correct?
bucknuticus
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They both wouldn't go dough...
Wyoming needs to lose Saturday. Completely slipped my mind.
But knowing the committee they'll stick Navy in over WMU...
So if OSU wins I am guessing that means Penn state plays in the championship and I am assuming you think the winner of the championship game Penn st-Wisconsin will make it to?
Hippopuncher12
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I think if Penn St. wins and Bama/Clemson/Washington win OSU is out. If Wisconsin wins I think OSU goes and if Clemson/Washington loses Wiscy and OSU are in. My opinion of course.
Frozenprince
Banned
I have it on good authority that Chad Morris to Baylor is a lock.
They offered him a SHITLOAD of money.
Like, $5M a year with out clauses and incentives that could bring it to $6M a year.
They offered him a SHITLOAD of money.
Like, $5M a year with out clauses and incentives that could bring it to $6M a year.
ErnieMcCracken
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Not sure how OSU goes if Penn St., Clemson and Washington win out. The committee will find a way though because "reasons". That's expecting too much to go right, so it won't and they'll get in anyway.
Yeah, I saw elsewhere that the announcement is coming Sunday.
Actually kinda disappointing to see a promising young coach go down that route. Some things are worth more than money.
Frozenprince
Banned
I agree.
But it's a SHITLOAD of money.
Still, he took a poisonous job and I wish he would have just stayed at SMU one more year so he could maybe go to Tech or get a top flight job instead of going to that disgusting shithole in Waco.
He's blinded by his fan hood on everything related to OSU
bucknuticus
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If Ohio state wins Saturday, they will go to the cfp
Absolutely. He had that program on the right track, and could have easily gotten a great P5 job if he had just waited a year or two.
Instead he's going to kill his career. Shame.
Frozenprince
Banned
Yep. Whoever wins the game goes to the playoffs. That's really it.
Except Michigan still has to play a championship game. One more reason to hate tOSU.
Frozenprince
Banned
$25 Million Dollars is hard to turn down.
Plus I'm hearing he has out-clauses basically every year just in case things go tits up.
Oh also UH is going hard after Art Briles.
So uh.
Go everybody that plays them.
bucknuticus
Member
Anyone who is a proponent of an expanded playoff should be rooting for Ohio state to get in. Would 100% start a closer look into expansion
MugiwaraCole
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I really doubt Washington jumps Ohio State at this point, assuming both win out. I wouldn't be against it, but the committee seems to value OSU'a resume more. I don't know how much a Pac-12 championship might help.
(For the love of God, shelve this expansion talk 🙄
Frozenprince
Banned
They are contractually beholden to 4 teams until like 2025 or something ridiculous like that.
ErnieMcCracken
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Yet the committee emphasized the conference championship in '14 as the major reason for putting them in that year. Do they just say we're making shit up as we go each year?
Yes...
bucknuticus
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Shit can always be broken. Don't matter 4 super conferences is coming!
Frozenprince
Banned
With how much money and subs ESPN is bleeding I don't think they are terribly inclined to change anything that's working for them right now.
Hippopuncher12
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Well if they do win that means they have then beaten a top 25 Wazzu and either Colo or USC which is not as good a resume for sure but I think it's good enough. I don't think they will win out anyway so it's probably Moot.
MugiwaraCole
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It made sense in '14. Not that it won't here, but it was pretty clear in '14 that OSU was the 4th most deserving team in the country. Baylor was the Big XII champ (IDC what the conference said about "co champs", Baylor was the champion, as much as I hate the program), freezing TCU out, but tanking the conference's shot at getting in. Their schedule was horrendous.
If we're comparing this season to that season, Washington seems like it's the Baylor of the situation. They might get in. I kinda hope they do if they win out, but I'd understand if they didn't. They lost the one game they really couldn't afford to lose, which was the only team with a pulse they've met so far. And they lost definitively. At home.
bucknuticus
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Hocutt said there is not just a small separation between OSU and Penn State in CFP view. That bodes well for Buckeyes if PSU wins Big Ten.
Where do I send my $9.95?
I heard this too.
If tOSU and Washington win out, Washington should be in. Conference champion with the same amount of wins and losses? Has to mean something.
Hippopuncher12
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While this would be true in almost all cases would you put a 2 loss Big 10 Champ Wisconsin over a 1 loss Ohio State who not only beat them head to head at Wiscy but then also (in theory obviously) beat Michigan the only other team to beat Wiscy?
bucknuticus
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Committee has already said multiple times this season conference championship is mnt weight anymore than the other factors. They said they only use it as a tiebreak if they feel the teams are equal.
Using it only as a tie breaker is not weighing it equally.
We'd also have wins over Stanford and Utah, who are towards the bottom but still in the playoff rankings.
TheLetdown
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5 mil plus incentives is p5 money.
I can firmly say, right now, having not been offered that contract, with nothing on the table or any weight, without a budding resume or really a resume you might consider a time or two before unceremoniously wiping your ass with it, I would absolutely turn down Baylor.
I can firmly say, right now, having not been offered that contract, with nothing on the table or any weight, without a budding resume or really a resume you might consider a time or two before unceremoniously wiping your ass with it, I would absolutely turn down Baylor.
Battlezone
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Hypothetical: if Alabama loses Saturday, do they even drop from #1? Seems like in the committee's eyes, there's a big gap between them and the field. I definitely don't think they drop below 4 with a loss.
I'd guess they drop to 2 behind OSU/Michigan winner. Wouldn't be surprised if they stayed 1 though.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Hell no, not below #4.i think they drop to #2 at worst, and that is only if OSU blows Michigan or if the water, or vice versa.
MugiwaraCole
Member
If the OSU/Michigan winner wins in a blowout, I could see us dropping to two. I don't think there's a chance in hell we drop to 3 or lower unless we get blown out in turn. This is like a few weeks ago prior to all the upsets, there's a pretty decent gap that gives them a margin for error.
Azwethinkweiz
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My guess is that Clemson would jump OSU if it wins out, since it'll have a conference championship and OSU wouldn't. And Clemson would definitely take Atlanta. Not sure how it would work out if Michigan won, but I don't think anyone believes there's a chance of that happening anyway.
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