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They're really cool books, the ones I've read at least. The tone is pitched perfectly in evoking that feel of storybooks from your childhood, but all ages and thoughtful enough to be a satisfying read as an adult (probably true of the better books of your childhood, now I think about it). It's a good fit if you like Redwall, or anything like that too. One of the things I always found cool abput Petersen's method is he builds scale models of different building or furniture etc before drawing them, I think he has a bunch of videos on YouTube.

So this is kind of a swerve, sorry, but how do you think Redwall would do as a readaloud? Looking for something new...I considered Redwall but I'm not familiar with them.

There have been individual books, especially classics, but I'm having trouble finding a series that works as well as Harry Potter when read aloud.
 

Zombine

Banned
My Jonathan Case Betty & Veronica commission just arrived 😁

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Me and my girl love Mouse Guard but we've both read different books. She's read two or three of the main titles. I've read both volumes of Legends of the Guard WHICH I LOVED.

Haha! How did you guys manage that? I was thinking of trying my kid on them, but he's a boy and the worst, I fear trusting him with such nice collections. Things seem to just break in his hands. Ill probably grab the Legends books in a few weeks if they come recommended!

So this is kind of a swerve, sorry, but how do you think Redwall would do as a readaloud? Looking for something new...I considered Redwall but I'm not familiar with them.

There have been individual books, especially classics, but I'm having trouble finding a series that works as well as Harry Potter when read aloud.

Oh good question! I don't have first hand experience of reading them aloud with mine, but I think they would be a good fit, I know what you mean about the book *working* though. Seems obvious, but have you tried Narnia? I know those are great in this respect on my own end, but they're quite old now and a bit stuffy too. Maybe a series of unfortunate events?
 
Me and my girl love Mouse Guard but we've both read different books. She's read two or three of the main titles. I've read both volumes of Legends of the Guard WHICH I LOVED.

Haha! How did you guys manage that? I was thinking of trying my kid on them, but he's a boy and the worst, I fear trusting him with such nice collections. Things seem to just break in his hands. Ill probably grab the Legends books in a few weeks if they come recommended!

I ended up skipping the main line books and jumped to Legends v1 too. (I ordered the wrong book at the library...). Still enjoyed it though!
 

Sandfox

Member
The bastards I got hyped

Can't say I care about generations though, Laura especially should be left alone. All New Wolverine has been superb.
I would expect Laura to keep her book either way. Generations is probably going to be the "pilot" for Marvel Legacy or something to setup certain characters coexisting.
 
I ended up skipping the main line books and jumped to Legends v1 too. (I ordered the wrong book at the library...). Still enjoyed it though!

Haha awesome, similar to some of the stuff I've been reading lately, they seem like a good vehicle to try out some different creators I might not come across otherwise.

Speaking of which, I'm about 2/3 through From Under Mountains. This is a good one! Will write more about it when I'm done.
 

VanWinkle

Member
Wonder Woman by Azzarello and Chiang is really interesting so far (six issues read). It's crazy, I actually read the first six issues a long time ago and I think it was the first WW comic I had read. Didn't really know what to think of it. Reading it now, though, it dawns on me how different of a WW book it is. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it definitely makes for an interesting take and I do really like it. Would I want this is a mainline continuity version of her, though? Ehhh, that's where I can see why some people didn't enjoy it.
 
Wonder Woman by Azzarello and Chiang is really interesting so far (six issues read). It's crazy, I actually read the first six issues a long time ago and I think it was the first WW comic I had read. Didn't really know what to think of it. Reading it now, though, it dawns on me how different of a WW book it is. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it definitely makes for an interesting take and I do really like it. Would I want this is a mainline continuity version of her, though? Ehhh, that's where I can see why some people didn't enjoy it.

THEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABY

Ah, memories.
 
Oh good question! I don't have first hand experience of reading them aloud with mine, but I think they would be a good fit, I know what you mean about the book *working* though. Seems obvious, but have you tried Narnia? I know those are great in this respect on my own end, but they're quite old now and a bit stuffy too. Maybe a series of unfortunate events?

Thanks for the response! Yeah it's tricky, they really have to be written in a particular way to work aloud. HP has its share of goofy dialogue and moments but...I dunno, it just worked so well for some reason.

We have done all the Narnia books, as well as some Oz...Baum is actually my favorite for readaloud but the kid isn't into them. Maybe I will try Redwall. We just tried Dragonlance, which was a constant stream of cringe. ;p
 
There's that Dido we all know and love.

From CBR:

"So if letting diverse characters organically grow out of the story is an important factor for Dark Matter, then why not have a more diverse lineup of creators? Why not, one reporter asked, have more women working on these books?

DiDio said that at this first phase of expansion, DC was “Counting on folks who have a track record to do this for us.” The publisher is betting that big name artists who have already move big numbers in comic shops will give Dark Matter its best chance for initial success."
 
Thanks for the response! Yeah it's tricky, they really have to be written in a particular way to work aloud. HP has its share of goofy dialogue and moments but...I dunno, it just worked so well for some reason.

We have done all the Narnia books, as well as some Oz...Baum is actually my favorite for readaloud but the kid isn't into them. Maybe I will try Redwall. We just tried Dragonlance, which was a constant stream of cringe. ;p

Have you read The Secret World of Og? I loved having that read aloud to me when I was a kid.
 

VanWinkle

Member
There's that Dido we all know and love.

From CBR:

Ehh I don't know. I understand where's he's coming from. The whole thing seems to be about taking some of the huge names in comics, and people like Jim Lee, JRJR, and Scott Snyder are just bigger names than the vast majority if not all female comic creators. Not that I wouldn't like to see someone like Gail Simone or Amanda Conner be on there, but there are way more big male comic creators than big female comic creators.

They SHOULD always be pushing for a more diverse creator lineup in their books when those creators are good, but I don't know if that necessarily applies to this particular initiative at the beginning.
 

Sandfox

Member
Ehh I don't know. I understand where's he's coming from. The whole thing seems to be about taking some of the huge names in comics, and people like Jim Lee, JRJR, and Scott Snyder are just bigger names than the vast majority if not all female comic creators. Not that I wouldn't like to see someone like Gail Simone or Amanda Conner be on there, but there are way more big male comic creators than big female comic creators.

They SHOULD always be pushing for a more diverse creator lineup in their books when those creators are good, but I don't know if that necessarily applies to this particular initiative at the beginning.
The article is poorly named in that case.
 

shingi70

Banned
I'd say having big name teams on new characters is the best way to do it. Miles Morales wouldn't have been remotely noteworthy if Dennis hopeless wrote the book upon launch instead of Bendis.
 

Messi

Member
Ehh I don't know. I understand where's he's coming from. The whole thing seems to be about taking some of the huge names in comics, and people like Jim Lee, JRJR, and Scott Snyder are just bigger names than the vast majority if not all female comic creators. Not that I wouldn't like to see someone like Gail Simone or Amanda Conner be on there, but there are way more big male comic creators than big female comic creators.

They SHOULD always be pushing for a more diverse creator lineup in their books when those creators are good, but I don't know if that necessarily applies to this particular initiative at the beginning.

That's what happens when you have an industry that has long ignored women and for a long time seen them as nothing more than eye candy.

You just named two females who should be in this line up. Gail in particular is weirdly absent from Rebirth.
 

VanWinkle

Member
The article is poorly named in that case.

Well, it says that it's the first step in diversifying the DC universe, and creators aren't a part of that universe. So it's just a different kind of diversity.

That's what happens when you have an industry that has long ignored women and for a long time seen them as nothing more than eye candy.

You just named two females who should be in this line up. Gail in particular is weirdly absent from Rebirth.

Oh I completely agree.

And, yeah, Simone or Conner would be great, but 1.) do they even want to? Were they approached? We can't answer that, and 2.) the initial lineup is quite small, so I think it's fair that these books don't have any female creators yet.

I'd say having big name teams on new characters is the best way to do it. Miles Morales wouldn't have been remotely noteworthy if Dennis hopeless wrote the book upon launch instead of Bendis.

For sure.
 
Thanks for the response! Yeah it's tricky, they really have to be written in a particular way to work aloud. HP has its share of goofy dialogue and moments but...I dunno, it just worked so well for some reason.

We have done all the Narnia books, as well as some Oz...Baum is actually my favorite for readaloud but the kid isn't into them. Maybe I will try Redwall. We just tried Dragonlance, which was a constant stream of cringe. ;p

Not at all dude, I know what it's like, this stuff is like shooting into the dark sometimes, and it's the worst when you have a good book series or something working with your kid and it runs out or ends. I for one would love to have someone read Dragonlance to me, even now, you did good. I didn't think of Oz, dur.

Finished From Under Mountains, and with it my 8house read through (for now). A bit on the book. It's a historical fantasy that reminded me of game of thrones more than once, from its inciting incident, political machinations and its exploration and subvertion of gender roles in a feudal society. However the way in which the story is told and delivered is much slower and steadier than anything in GoT, and by using the art and especially the colours to build an atmosphere, it really gives an emotional weight to the events as they unfold. All told, by the end the story is quite straight forward but the way it's told makes it quite a sad emotional experience, and one that felt worth experiencing. I liked the middle eastern influence, oppose to the usual English medieval feel a lot of fantasy starts at.

On 8house as a whole, it was a good experiment by the creators involved, and I'm glad I picked these books up. It feels right that Mirror is the book of the three to continue, it felt like the perfect balance of what the line set out to do. Arclight was interesting with a weird world and gorgeous art but maybe just too sparse and thin on plot for me in the end. From Under Mountains was probably the most straightforward book of them all, and had some great colours but the world and ideas are more familiar. Mirror's visuals though are striking, creative in their delivery of storytelling, the world is unique with characters I really liked, and Rios just nailed her end of the deal with interesting ideas and themes. I wouldn't recommend all thee of these books to everyone but I would at least say have a look at the previews for Mirror if you think it might be something up your alley.
 
That's what happens when you have an industry that has long ignored women and for a long time seen them as nothing more than eye candy.

You just named two females who should be in this line up. Gail in particular is weirdly absent from Rebirth.

Maybe they are in the lineup and just haven't had their books announced. Like, they haven't even announced Tom King and there's no way he's not a big name.
 

tim1138

Member
Oh man I just finished the last BPRD Hell on Earth trade, what an ending! I'm gonna need to let it digest before doing an in depth write up, but it was amazing. I cannot wait for the new series to start this summer. As always, Mignola-verse > everything else out there.
 
Would have been nice to have a female announced in the first big splash if that was the case
Yeah, missed opportunity and a real shame. Especially since they have some great exclusive female creators (Joelle Jones!). Hopefully we get some sooner rather than later. I would LOVE to see Conner doing interiors, but she's probably got her plate full with her other ongoings.
Oh man I just finished the last BPRD Hell on Earth trade, what an ending! I'm gonna need to let it digest before doing an in depth write up, but it was amazing. I cannot wait for the new series to start this summer. As always, Mignola-verse > everything else out there.

It's the best. The ending to Hell on Earth is so perfect. I knew you'd love it lol. Especially in the second to last issue with "the infinite".
 

tim1138

Member
It's the best. The ending to Hell on Earth is so perfect. I knew you'd love it lol. Especially in the second to last issue with "the infinite".

It's like they knew the one way to redeem
Johann
in my eyes, that was an amazing moment. Such master class story telling, right up until it ended, I had no idea what they were gonna do. The last page was as perfect as the end of Hellboy in Hell.
 
Oh man I just finished the last BPRD Hell on Earth trade, what an ending! I'm gonna need to let it digest before doing an in depth write up, but it was amazing. I cannot wait for the new series to start this summer. As always, Mignola-verse > everything else out there.

It's the best. The ending to Hell on Earth is so perfect. I knew you'd love it lol. Especially in the second to last issue with "the infinite".

I just knew he'd love it when
Johann saved us all
LOL. So perfect in context of everything Tim has wrote about the book until now. It really is genuinely fantastic though, just a perfect end, and I would almost almost be 100% happy if they had left it on that note. The only thing that stops it is
Abe! No spoilers for his book obvvv but it couldn't be the end of the BPRD without Abe present.
 

tim1138

Member
I just knew he'd love it when
Johann saved us all
LOL. So perfect in context of everything Tim has wrote about the book until now. It really is genuinely fantastic though, just a perfect end, and I would almost almost be 100% happy if they had left it on that note. The only thing that stops it is
Abe! No spoilers for his book obvvv but it couldn't be the end of the BPRD without Abe present.

I still don't forgive him for his role in
Roger's fate
, but that was definitely an epic moment. I'd definitely read a book exploring that concept.
 
Finally someone will reply to my burning question
"if the allies used a cosmic cube to win ww2 why did they do nothing about the holocaust, which we know took place because Magneto still exists?"
Shortsightedness. I'd take it as thhey just figured out how the Cube worked and were more worried about winning the war rather than rewriting what already had happened. Plus if I'm remembering my history proper, the allies didn't know it was THAT bad until they actually saw the camps, which wasn't until near the end of the war, if not directly after.
Batman and Batwoman have appeared in Mother Panic, and Superman and the Metal Men have appeared in Cave Carson.
And the next arc of Shade has her going to Gotham.
 

mreddie

Member
Gisele Lagace (Jem) on her way to C2E2, got refused entry to the US because of the commissions/comics she had in the trunk of her car.
 
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