Freezasaurus
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I wanted to like that Vampy book but it was just so dull that I couldn't get into it.
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COMICS! |OT| November 2016. Wilde for comics, 2 Hickman books this month.
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I wanted to like that Vampy book but it was just so dull that I couldn't get into it.
Talking shit about Roxy?
FlowBro...
no I am cool with Bling! generation x is going to be very interesting.
Yup. Maybe she should not openly complain about marvel. This is the second time she has done it in the last 6 months.
Sounds like a Kate Leth book alright
LordOfLore
Banned
Damn.
Marvel taking those big Ls today. Also is this condemning X fans as people who are never happy?
I would assume so.
LOL FUCKING SAVAGE.
sorry for caps
X not going to give it to you
edit: guggenheim is definitely going to be ripped apart.
Freezasaurus
Member
He had to add the line about just kidding, but we all know the truth.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I'm gonna assume he was approached and did this...
this is how I picture him leaving marvel
Yeah, I want to know Hickman's beef. I'm gonna guess and say he had a idea but the mythos is like juggling chainsaws.
What kinda sucks more is that there going back to square one, just without the bikini armor.
What kinda sucks more is that there going back to square one, just without the bikini armor.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Please tweet this so i can RT
spring is going to provide the lulz.
bruh I don't have a twitter, but I stole that tag line from someone else here.
Freezasaurus
Member
Apparently not. I was keeping an eye on it. Haven't read it myself but reviews so far haven't been kind.
The 2014 run, yes but dips in quality.
The new one, he's fucking outstaged by the guest stars by the 5th page.
Yeah, I want to know Hickman's beef. I'm gonna guess and say he had a idea but the mythos is like juggling chainsaws.
What kinda sucks more is that there going back to square one, just without the bikini armor.
I like that picture
So they want to make the new mutants more of a stranger things/horror type move.
http://www.joblo.com/horror-movies/...f-new-mutants-described-as-a-horror-movie-179
http://www.joblo.com/horror-movies/...f-new-mutants-described-as-a-horror-movie-179
spring is going to provide the lulz.
bruh I don't have a twitter, but I stole that tag line from someone else here.
Way to completely skip over the point I was making lol.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
That can work if done right.
Serpentine
Banned
I figured Leth was talking about Power Up!, the book she did for Boom
So in like 3 years she's gonna be unreadable and deserving of bad creative?
maybe Guggenheim will turn it around by being a wack writer who just gets the X-Men
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I got your point, and you're right. X-Fans would never be happy.
The video is included in the link. Though the video was made public a while back.
It very interesting. Cannonball is going to be a visual treat
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Hah savage Hickman. Someone better let him know he's being too negative, he wouldn't last a day here.
Pretty much. Too many great/bad runs with lots of unique teams. I think generation x is the right approach for the next generation of x men instead of the OG 5.
My gif: was in response to the books being 10/10 though. Lord knows that is not happening
MHWilliams
Member
Not really.
April 2012: Aquaman 8 $2.99 DC 61,657
Aquaman 6 $2.99 DC 49,903
Aquaman 7 $2.99 DC 47,005
Aquaman 8 $2.99 DC 44,551
Aquaman 9 $2.99 DC 42,695
I think Aquaman is the worst-performing of the twice-monthly books, but I haven't looked in detail. And as I said elsewhere, the double-shipping method seems to be speeding up reader loss on DC titles.
If you're talking right before Rebirth, it's double, not 10x.
Aquaman 52 $3.99 DC 22,246
Detective Comics has never been in the Top 10. Likewise Flash. Suicide Squad was for its Rebirth, first, and second issues, but it looks like that's over.
The consistent Top 10 is Event Book, High Profile #1, Batman, and maybe Star Wars.
I remember people hating on Aaron when that book was running lol. I'm glad we're getting another school book because I missed that in the ANAD books.
But if you look at it as 2 issues a month Versus 1 issue a month the sales are better versus the new 52.
6 dollars a month averaging close to 95,000 a month versus the 60-70 per month at 4 dollars. I am sure aquaman is low amongst the rebirth books but you gotta look at it differently because it is a bi monthly book.
Reader drop off is only natural and is the reason we have big events and relaunches every year but a key factor for aquaman could actually be : quality in both art and story arc. I always expect Aquaman to be lower than others because he has never dominated sale charts.
Some of y'all taking big bangs numbers real serious. They were getting like 3 copies of aquaman if tjst right before rebirth.
Those numbers for Aquaman rebirth are certainly trending downwards.
All I know is from personal experience rebirth double shipping burnt me out and led to me dropping everything down to Wonder Woman and Harley. The rest I will trade wait or more likely just forget about them.
Those numbers for Aquaman rebirth are certainly trending downwards.
All I know is from personal experience rebirth double shipping burnt me out and led to me dropping everything down to Wonder Woman and Harley. The rest I will trade wait or more likely just forget about them.
LordOfLore
Banned
I'm going by store numbers. Several stores(with Big Bang as the one starting the conversation a few weeks back among stores where they compared % of readers) are reporting that they sell most of their Aquaman issues right away now instead of over several weeks and they've gone from selling to only a few people to instead have a large following thanks to Rebirth that means they sell 10x more than before it. Some stores maybe only sold 4 or 5 issues before but are now selling 50 every 2 weeks.
Btw, this was the October top 20:
10 of the spots are new launches/mini-series/books that ended/events. Not counting them the list is:
Big bang ain't selling 50 issues of Aquaman every two weeks lol. That store survives on trades.
As they should be. I think everyone here will be shocked if aquaman was rising like a rocket.
It's natural to be burnt out. DC is putting out a lot of great stuff at an alarming rate amongst lots of their brands. I am sure someone like you has been reading lots of marvel would struggle to keep up with the increase both money and time wise.
And lol only Harley and Wonder Woman? You really are missing out
LordOfLore
Banned
It wasn't Big Bang, it was a USA store IIRC.
MHWilliams
Member
Oh, if you're going by dollar share, then Rebirth and double shipping is helping DC a great deal.
And reader drop-off is natural, but looking at the numbers, readers are treating each issue... as an issue. Basically, the numbers are dropping off for the double shipping books at the same rate as the books coming out monthly. Readers don't seem to differentiate between 1 issue every month, or 1 issue every two weeks.
Mayhaps that's the case per store, but that doesn't really help with concrete numbers nationwide.
Like I said: Event Book, High Profile #1
Think he is talking about more than one store franchise
Here's the thing though. I don't feel like I am missing out. Same goes for marvel. I've cut the shit put of that pull too.
It shouldn't be that hard to believe that not everyone is in love with rebirth and it isn't working for them.
Future Foundation
Member
X Fans are reasonable people. Almost as reasonable as wider marvel fans.
Speaking of, I wonder what The Complex thinks of the new X-Books.
LordOfLore
Banned
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Some people still do. I yell at them every day.
I'm VERY psyched about a new institute in a cool new locashe.
Yea DC is on to something. I mean of course they are going to treat each issue as an issue but I think aquamman is the worst book to discuss sales for. Something interesting would be to discuss deathstroke and compare the rise of quality and see if it affects sales. Another would be detective comics given what happened at the end of the last arc. Also superman sales for rebirth versus new 52.
I am not implying that readers view both issues as one.
I am saying compare the bimonthly sales versus the monthly sales. The bimonthly sales are not muchdifferent when it you look it at that way if not Better
MHWilliams
Member
To be clear, I really like the Rebirth books.
I'm just trying to touch on this contention that Rebirth is doing gangbusters in sales. It's more of a shift in strategy.
As TheFlow noted and I said elsewhere, it's easier to make money selling Justice League twice a month than it is to have Justice League and another Justice League adjacent book. Under the old system, DC would've gotten 100,000 issues of JL for $4 a pop in one month, now they technically get 190,000 issues for $4 a pop. Short term, big gain.
I worry about the long-term prospects of the strategy though. The mid-range play is double-ship but slightly lower the price of the books. Make more money, but not double, but you have the chance to potentially keep some readers.
Okay? There are always events books and launches though. Seems an odd way to attempt to say "The Top 10 is always X". I don't disagree with Batman being a powerhouse. I disagree with "the Top 10 is this". It's not.