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Conor Mcgregor mentions Rocky III "dancing monkeys"; says meant circus-like celeb gym
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You feel like not using that word
SyenceLabb
Member
The racist bar is set pretty low these days.
I think the whole planet should be smashed lol
Sevenfold
Member
I fucking hate that word. It's OK on GAF tho so it must be a UK US thing right? Smfh.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
Basically.
Psychoward
Banned
It's actually not OK on gaf lol
Yeah, the dude pretty much committed account suicide. Calling people that word gets people banned from what I have seen. Calling people that word AND defending racism? lol
Black people are insulted with ape/monkey comments all the time. You don't have to remember a mediocre old movie to know referring to black people as dancing monkeys is a bad thing.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
It's not okay. Mods can't be everywhere, though. When you see shit like that, PM a mod.
You know someone is gonna say some ol' bullshit when they're too scared to say it on their main account.
Sevenfold
Member
Without wanting to derail. I've seen it used quite often and with no reprimand but maybe it's a report thing. Anyway the dude's a junior and judging by his contribution a short lived one.
Edit: Yeah or throwaway account.
E2: Will do Hero.
Likely a throwaway, you see people come in and say racist or sexist nonsense like this guy (with racism) on throwaways all the time.
FloweryMarston
Member
Conor's interaction with guillermo is upsetting in general.
I also don't understand why would you defend the guy saying stupid shit like this even in a lighthearted conversation.
I also don't understand why would you defend the guy saying stupid shit like this even in a lighthearted conversation.
WordsintheWater
Member
I've referred to myself as a dancing monkey, but I have enough sense not to say that about any black person. Calling a black person a monkey is incredibly racist, and I'm not too familiar with Rocky III, but if it is a scene he's referring to a prominently black gym in the movie then fuck yeah it's racist.
Don't waste your time. That guy hand waves away Connors racist comments here while not addressing the fact he has done this in the past multiple times(Connor's just clueless, he's a foreigner etc). While he is upset at people who do the same and hand wave away Mayweather's domestic abuse. It's Just ironic but that guy will keep going not realizing it because some gaf Mayweather thing he's stuck on. He's consistent I will give him that.
Night.Ninja
Banned
He's not racist
And what Connor said about Aldo was real talk if it was a different time heads would have been severed.
I love both these guys real dudes not many of them left unfortunately.
And what Connor said about Aldo was real talk if it was a different time heads would have been severed.
I love both these guys real dudes not many of them left unfortunately.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Ftfy.
Please enlighten us on the hierarchy of offense.
People taking shots at the irish in here is gross. Conors a dick so it's okay right?
Steteotyoes are only bad when they're directed at Americans it seems
People who use racist terms /are/ racist. Even if unconsciously so. They may not be deep-seeded, far-right racist activists, but they are on the scale.
Hell, many of us posting against this shit will have racist tendencies they're either unaware of or are trying to get rid of, so it's kind of baffling that anyone would make this claim for someone who constantly uses a term that has quite striking racist connotations.
Deuce Deuce
Member
There was a joke in there that I (slightly) edited out because I thought it may have went too far.
See:
Sevenfold
Member
Such bravery lol
They were using irony highlight the absurdity of defending his statement(s).
It doesn't tend to happen anymore in the UK, which is what I was talking about.
Although I suspect it is less because the UK has had an epiphany about race relations when compared to the rest of European and more to do with how good the Police and Football Teams are at identifying and banning those that pull this type of shit.
Real dudes , real talk !!!
You love women beaters, and racist???? I'm sure there's plenty of those left in the world unfortunately
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
My fault. Minsunderstood you.
The irish racism in this thread can stop though.
You can state what a knob conor is without throwing the whole country under the bus.
Irishmantis
Member
Come on guys using Potato and leprechaun jokes for Irish is no where Racist lol
It's light hearted stereotypes and nothing more.
Although it could be offensive depending on the context but in here it hasn't being used that way
It's light hearted stereotypes and nothing more.
Although it could be offensive depending on the context but in here it hasn't being used that way
Psychoward
Banned
What the fuuuck
Yeah it's a damn shame there aren't many hyper-masculine woman beaters and racists running around anymore
Care to break down which scene in Rocky III contained dancing monkeys or anything not-racist that could be defined as dancing monkeys?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This thread reset TWICE overnight, as if the preceding 20 pages simply never existed.
Shit, there was a guy honestly curious why people were suggesting he READ before he SPEAKS.
like, he honestly couldn't understand why the fuck you would wanna do that. Why you would want to know what you were talking about before you started talking
That legit CONFUSED HIM.
This is after one of the most stubborn defenders of McGregor's horseshit spent something like 7 pages adjusting that cape before even WATCHING the video.
"Look, I don't have time to read. Or watch a video. But I do have time to share my uninformed and already addressed opinion and demand a response from the rest of you."
Man.
Shit, there was a guy honestly curious why people were suggesting he READ before he SPEAKS.
like, he honestly couldn't understand why the fuck you would wanna do that. Why you would want to know what you were talking about before you started talking
That legit CONFUSED HIM.
This is after one of the most stubborn defenders of McGregor's horseshit spent something like 7 pages adjusting that cape before even WATCHING the video.
"Look, I don't have time to read. Or watch a video. But I do have time to share my uninformed and already addressed opinion and demand a response from the rest of you."
Man.
BossDarkseid
Member
You love a woman beater?
Interesting. I mean I only have a cursory interest in the fight but I don't understand how a playboy millionaire boxer and the epitome of rags to riches having gone to someones head are "real people". what are real people lol
I called a black guy in my WoW clan boy once. A friend told me later on that it was something used to refer to slaves. Felt bad about it and apologized and all was good. I can see why he made that mistake but the monkey thing is inexcusable.
The severity of the slur doesn't matter they're still both wrong.
The severity of the slur doesn't matter they're still both wrong.
It would be more credible to consider his 'boy' comment a mistake if he didn't have a history of saying racist shit beforehand, but he does.
I'm not saying that the comment wasn't aimed at black people in the film - it very well could have!
But seeing that Conor is calling multiple different people "monkeys" (eg. those bodyguards) makes it seem like it could be a part of his vocabulary for individuals that he thinks are simply "eejits".
That's beside the point though, what I was pointing out is that the thread title implies that he made the reference to black people as a matter of fact, and that can be disputed don't you think?
Still a real bad choice of words from him for sure, but I'm not convinced that he's actually racist or harbours hate for people of colour.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Yo sure? My mom was a Black Panther and I grew up around the movement. Let us not be so quick to judge when we are engaged in debate.
If I use the term "deck monkey" which was used for a particular division in the navy that encompassed mostly white people or in some cases all white people, does it then become racist when a brother joins the division? It is insensitive, absolutely! Conor may be an insensitive SOB for sure but that does not make him a racist, that's just plain silly.
I don't know the man but in the context of what has been presented, it seems to be a leap. Might be true might not but being how I have been judged based on the position of my hat when I was in Chicago, the color of my skin in California and the neighborhood I'm from even in Philly, I'm not quick to label anybody. I'll leave that to other people.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Well..that's disappointing..
GavinUK86
Member
You know this was the scene he was referencing right? It's pretty obvious what he meant by using that term. The fact that those words are the first things that came to his mind when he thought of that scene says enough about the guy to me. I'm pretty convinced he's a racist.
Goddamn, that's pretty messed up then! Sheesh, what a shame
Even among modern boxers (and champions) there are a lot that are decent and don't have any scandals.
Umm, didn't you hear him quoting Biggie?
He also bought a copy of Jay Z's 4:44 album, proclaimed he's black from the belly-button down and air-humped in honor of black women everywhere.
Guy can't possibly be racist, imo.
LizardSnob
Neo Member
A racist vs a woman beater. I hope they both kill each other in there.
GavinUK86
Member
Wait, what? lol.