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Consider the following: A 90 lb (40.1 kg) girl is walking a 90 lb (40.1 kg) pit bull

triplestation

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The pit bull suddenly decides today is not it's day. The pit bull breaks free and attacks a random pedestrian, eating their face off, and then some.

Case A: The girl is below 18, pedestrian survives the attack with deformities
Case B: The girl is above 18, pedestrian survives the attack with deformities

Case C: The girl is below 18, pedestrian is killed by the attack
Case D: The girl is above 18, pedestrian is killed by the attack

Should the 90 lb (40.1 kg) girl be held responsible? If so what should be the punishment? (if any)

Hint: The area of a circle is pi(r^2)
 
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Shoot the dog and lock her up.
 
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E. Slightly Squat and scratch the depths of your ass ... while the Dog is attaching or taking a shit...
 
ExpandKong

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Damage Inc said:
How about those precious Labs and retrievers. I’ve seen some aggressive dogs in those breeds. It’s just not as fun to fear monger about them. Pits are the “super predators” of the dog species.
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I mean, this is my perspective on it: any dog, like any pet, is first and foremost an animal. You can have a special bond with your pet and they can be the gentlest dog in the world, raised from a pup and sweet as can be. But it’s still an animal, and as an animal you will never be able to 100% guarantee you know what it’s going to do or why it’s going to do it or what might flip its trigger one day.

And if/when that day comes, you’ve got to be able to physically get that dog under control.

I doubt my ability to get a pit bull physically under control, so I won’t get one for my family.

That’s all there is to it for me. Don’t get more dog than you can handle.
 
Malakhov

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V4skunk said:
They are banned in Britain but a friend has one as a family pet. Nice dog even has had kids poke it in the eyes and pulling its tail etc... Zero fucks given by the dog.
It's all to do with how you bring up the dog.
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This.

My 90lbs german shepherd used to run up to me when my son was still a crawler and sometimes pull the dog's ears or thought it was a good idea to try to put his finger into my dog's eyes. My shepherd would stare at me with a look that said 'please do something, quick'

Also one day at the dog park, a stupid dog averaging 10-15lbs took a bite on my shepherd's nose and he also ran to me with that same look.

He was truly a gentle giant, and I'm convinced any dog can be if you raise them correctly.

God I miss him...

As far as op:

shoot the dog lock her up if above 18.
shoot the dog lock whoever is the dog's owner who let that girl walk it that day (if it's her parents, friend, family etc...) if under 18
 
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triplestation

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german shepherds are great

siberian huskies are especially great

every single husky i've come across greets you with a big friendly smile and especially the puppies, whenever they meet anyone for the first time they wanna play with them like they've met a new best friend or some shit, fuck me i love huskies
 
Malakhov

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triplestation said:
german shepherds are great

siberian huskies are especially great

every single husky i've come across greets you with a big friendly smile and especially the puppies, whenever they meet anyone for the first time they wanna play with them like they've met a new best friend or some shit, fuck me i love huskies
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I'm a german shepherd owner only from now on, they're that special. I'll never get any other breed.

Huskies are cool but I dont like their energy level, although shepherds also have a high one, huskies have an infinite reserve.
 
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ExpandKong said:
I mean, this is my perspective on it: any dog, like any pet, is first and foremost an animal. You can have a special bond with your pet and they can be the gentlest dog in the world, raised from a pup and sweet as can be. But it’s still an animal, and as an animal you will never be able to 100% guarantee you know what it’s going to do or why it’s going to do it or what might flip its trigger one day.

And if/when that day comes, you’ve got to be able to physically get that dog under control.

I doubt my ability to get a pit bull physically under control, so I won’t get one for my family.

That’s all there is to it for me. Don’t get more dog than you can handle.
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I’m comfortable with “pits”. Actual dogs that fall into that breed properly aren’t always really that big. My last pit was 45 lbs. my current one is mixed and she is 75 lbs. I don’t ever get a dog that hasn’t been temperament tested and that I feel comfortable being in my home. I’ve had to get involved in dog fights (not mine). Lots of dogs, even on the smaller side can be difficult to get separated. They are animals after all. Before I let them around my kids I do quite a bit of testing to see if they have issues such as aggressiveness around food, toys, walking and other animals. The most aggressive dogs we’ve had were smaller such as beagles. Sadie the beagle would bite a kid in the face over food. My pits let my kids take food right out of their mouths.

Either way, I’ll have my dogs represent a breed that is trashed. I’ve had people interact with my dogs, getting on the floor in a store to play with them, then they ask the breed and run away. It’s stupid.
triplestation said:
german shepherds are great

siberian huskies are especially great

every single husky i've come across greets you with a big friendly smile and especially the puppies, whenever they meet anyone for the first time they wanna play with them like they've met a new best friend or some shit, fuck me i love huskies
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dafuq. Shepard’s are right up there with the dangerous pit and are generally bigger and have nasty bite.

So you single out pits but ok with Shepard’s. Lol.

I love Shepard’s but come on.
 
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Nester99

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Who owns the dog?

The owner is liable. An exception might be if the girl was hired to walk/watch the dog. Then the hired service provider would most likely be liable.
 
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triplestation said:
The pit bull suddenly decides today is not it's day. The pit bull breaks free and attacks a random pedestrian, eating their face off, and then some.

Case A: The girl is below 18, pedestrian survives the attack with deformities
Case B: The girl is above 18, pedestrian survives the attack with deformities

Case C: The girl is below 18, pedestrian is killed by the attack
Case D: The girl is above 18, pedestrian is killed by the attack

Should the 90 lb (40.1 kg) girl be held responsible? If so what should be the punishment? (if any)

Hint: The area of a circle is pi(r^2)
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As much as I dislike pit bulls, as long as it was properly leashed and all and there's no evidence of abuse and neglect, then I'd say at most she should be sued. The dog should definitely be put down after though.

Edit: if the girl is underage then parents should be responsible.
 
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Malakhov

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Damage Inc said:
dafuq. Shepard’s are right up there with the dangerous pit and are generally bigger and have nasty bite.

So you’re against pits but ok with Shepard’s. Lol.

I love Shepard’s but come on.
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Do you mean the damage of the bite or the frequency?

As for frequency, they used to, not so much anymore. I find a dog gets a bad rep for a while then it moves on to another breed. When I was a kid it was the german shepherd, then the rottweiler and now the pittbull. Whatever is cool to get for idiots tend to get the highest on the list. I think last time I saw the stats it was 65% pitts, 10% rotts and 5% shepherds.

But yeah, shepherd's bites are dangerous as hell, it's up there.

Edit: Im predicting the bullmastiff will get much higher on the list, it seems to be the new trend, at least around here.
 
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Malakhov said:
Do you mean the damage of the bite or the frequency?

As for frequency, they used to, not so much anymore. I find a dog gets a bad rep for a while then it moves on to another breed. When I was a kid it was the german shepherd, then the rottweiler and now the pittbull. Whatever is cool to get for idiots tend to get the highest on the list. I think last time I saw the stats it was 65% pitts, 10% rotts and 5% shepherds.

But yeah, shepherd's bites are dangerous as hell, it's up there.
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Damage. I was reading about dog bite comparisons a year or so ago and the Shepard’s have quite the bite. If I recall correctly the “pits” were number one in amount of bites (keeping in mind pits are 5 breeds and anything mixed with a certain body shape falls in that number helping inflate it) I think Shepard’s, dobbies and rotties were following them on the list.

Before I got my current dog I was after a Shepard for a while. I just couldn’t buy from a breeder when I knew there were good dogs in a shelter that get overlooked. I still have yet to buy a dog from a breeder. Have a hard time doing it.

Another reason I didn’t get a shep is their prey drive. My pits all loved my cat. Shepards are harder settle with a cat.
 
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Damage Inc said:
Damage. I was reading about dog bite comparisons a year or so ago and the Shepard’s have quite the bite. If I recall correctly the “pits” were number one in amount of bites (keeping in mind pits are 5 breeds and anything mixed with a certain body shape falls in that number helping inflate it) I think Shepard’s, dobbies and rotties were following them on the list.

Before I got my current dog I was after a Shepard for a while. I just couldn’t buy from a breeder when I knew there were good dogs in a shelter that get overlooked. I still have yet to buy a dog from a breeder. Have a hard time doing it.
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Same, mine was from a shelter but he was still a pup (3 months old). Sometimes Id like to get a really pure and nice one from a champion breeder but I just cant knowing there is a lot in shelters.
 
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Malakhov said:
Same, mine was from a shelter but he was still a pup (3 months old). Sometimes Id like to get a really pure and nice one from a champion breeder but I just cant with knowing there is a lot in shelters.
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Yeah. I wanted a pure breed but they were like 3k. For 80 bucks or even free you can rescue a dog from the shelters and make a difference. It’s hard not to take more than one, they are so sad. Tho it’s kinda easy to pass on some of they really crazy dogs in the shelter. I haven’t adopted a bad dog yet but I like to think I have a good eye for good dogs. Hopefully that doesn’t fail me lol.
 
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Damage Inc said:
Yeah. I wanted a pure breed but they were like 3k. For 80 bucks or even free you can rescue a dog from the shelters and make a difference. It’s hard not to take more than one, they are so sad. Tho it’s kinda easy to pass on some of they really crazy dogs in the shelter. I haven’t adopted a bad dog yet but I like to think I have a good eye for good dogs. Hopefully that doesn’t fail me lol.
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Our 2nd shepherd was also from the shelter. She was 6 months old and I wanted a pup but she seemed to have a very good character and she turned to be a really good dog as well

The night I brought her home from the shelter I washed her, combed her and gave her a dog bed (our dogs are never allowed on beds or couches). She was eternally grateful for that, I was her whole world, she'd always follow me everywhere in the house and bounded with me.

My first one died at 7 years from cancer and the 2nd at 9 years. Her hips got the best of her, that's a common problem in shepherds. I was pretty devastated when I lost them, they're so special.

When I divorced I had to move in a condo, I can't wait to sell it and buy a house to get another one.
 
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Whitesnake said:
Despite making up only 7% of the dog population, Pitbulls commit 50% of dog attacks.
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Whitesnake Whitesnake bro, I let my seriousness on the topic take over but when I first read your response I got it but it took a while to sink in lol. Good one ;)

meh. That’s messy. Like I said in another post, the “pit” term is a dumping ground for dogs that aren’t identified properly on top of up to 5 breeds in that same term. I saw a news report that was obviously a lab mix being called a pit. News like it for the shock factor, same as the OP. I pointed out in another post that the example says 90lbs pit but pure pits are smaller than that up to quite a bit smaller

barkpost.com

New Study Proves That It's Extremely Difficult To Visually Identify Pit Bulls

Nice pits. Are they real?
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So-called “genetic” Pit Bulls were only correctly identified by the shelter staff 33 to 75 percent of the time.

Meanwhile, up to nearly half the time, shelter staff labeled dogs as Pit Bulls when they lacked any DNA evidence substantiating that designation.

Slightly confusing (but necessary) background information: There’s no such breed as the “Pit Bull” – so no way of DNA testing for Pit Bulls specifically.

Rather, the study looked for dogs with what the researchers called “Pit Bull heritage” — meaning, DNA tests showed them to be at least 12.5 percent American Staffordshire Terrier or Staffordshire Bull Terrier.


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Malakhov said:
Our 2nd shepherd was also from the shelter. She was 6 months old and I wanted a pup but she seemed to have a very good character and she turned to be a really good dog as well

The night I brought her home from the shelter I washed her, combed her and gave her a dog bed (our dogs are never allowed on beds or couches). She was eternally grateful for that, I was her whole world, she'd always follow me everywhere in the house and bounded with me.

My first one died at 7 years from cancer and the 2nd at 9 years. Her hips got the best of her, that's a common problem in shepherds. I was pretty devastated when I lost them, they're so special.

When I divorced I had to move in a condo, I can't wait to sell it and buy a house to get another one.
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Yeah I always worry about the hips and the cancer. Cancer got one of my pits, it was mast cel cancer that was a small bump under her belly and then one day it blew up so big and ripped through the skin. Had to put her down because it spread.

my last one that died had a heart murmur from when we adopted him. He got a kidney infection and his heart gave out in my arms. That was horrible.

We got Peppa a few days after he passed. Whole family was heart broken.

So sorry to hear about yours. Its so sad when we lose them. I read a lot about their hips and it seems really common with the American bred Shepard’s. But seems fairly common in lots of breeds. My retrievers when I was young had hip issues really bad. It’s sad to see them struggle.
 
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Damage Inc said:
Whitesnake Whitesnake bro, I let my seriousness on the topic take over but when I first read your response I got it but it took a while to sink in lol. Good one ;)

meh. That’s messy. Like I said in another post, the “pit” term is a dumping ground for dogs that aren’t identified properly on top of up to 5 breeds in that same term. I saw a news report that was obviously a lab mix being called a pit. News like it for the shock factor, same as the OP. I pointed out in another post that the example says 90lbs pit but pure pits are smaller than that up to quite a bit smaller

barkpost.com

New Study Proves That It's Extremely Difficult To Visually Identify Pit Bulls

Nice pits. Are they real?
barkpost.com barkpost.com


So-called “genetic” Pit Bulls were only correctly identified by the shelter staff 33 to 75 percent of the time.

Meanwhile, up to nearly half the time, shelter staff labeled dogs as Pit Bulls when they lacked any DNA evidence substantiating that designation.

Slightly confusing (but necessary) background information: There’s no such breed as the “Pit Bull” – so no way of DNA testing for Pit Bulls specifically.

Rather, the study looked for dogs with what the researchers called “Pit Bull heritage” — meaning, DNA tests showed them to be at least 12.5 percent American Staffordshire Terrier or Staffordshire Bull Terrier.


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Whitesnake Whitesnake was parodying a meme. Lol.
 
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triplestation said:
The pit bull suddenly decides today is not it's day. The pit bull breaks free and attacks a random pedestrian, eating their face off, and then some.

Case A: The girl is below 18, pedestrian survives the attack with deformities
Case B: The girl is above 18, pedestrian survives the attack with deformities

Case C: The girl is below 18, pedestrian is killed by the attack
Case D: The girl is above 18, pedestrian is killed by the attack

Should the 90 lb (40.1 kg) girl be held responsible? If so what should be the punishment? (if any)

Hint: The area of a circle is pi(r^2)
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Bitches.
 
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Damage Inc said:
Whitesnake Whitesnake bro, I let my seriousness on the topic take over but when I first read your response I got it but it took a while to sink in lol. Good one ;)

meh. That’s messy. Like I said in another post, the “pit” term is a dumping ground for dogs that aren’t identified properly on top of up to 5 breeds in that same term. I saw a news report that was obviously a lab mix being called a pit. News like it for the shock factor, same as the OP. I pointed out in another post that the example says 90lbs pit but pure pits are smaller than that up to quite a bit smaller

barkpost.com

New Study Proves That It's Extremely Difficult To Visually Identify Pit Bulls

Nice pits. Are they real?
barkpost.com barkpost.com


So-called “genetic” Pit Bulls were only correctly identified by the shelter staff 33 to 75 percent of the time.

Meanwhile, up to nearly half the time, shelter staff labeled dogs as Pit Bulls when they lacked any DNA evidence substantiating that designation.

Slightly confusing (but necessary) background information: There’s no such breed as the “Pit Bull” – so no way of DNA testing for Pit Bulls specifically.

Rather, the study looked for dogs with what the researchers called “Pit Bull heritage” — meaning, DNA tests showed them to be at least 12.5 percent American Staffordshire Terrier or Staffordshire Bull Terrier.


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Nice! I've got an "American Pit Bull Terrier" :) Actually never seen this before, but my dog looks almost exactly like that except she has tan spots on her and a black nose. We did a DNA test (thought she was an Australian cattle dog). Turns out she is 40% coon hound, 40% american bulldog, 10% amstaff, 5% chinese sharpei, and the rest "unknown". People still ask if she's a pit, but she doesn't really look anything like one. Our last dog was an American Staffordshire/lab mix and he was the greatest. When we registered him the lady classified him as a "boxer mix" because pitties are illegal in our town. Breed-bans are bullshit.

Seriously tho, pits have a bad rep (mostly) because of their owners. People train them to be aggressive and keep them as status symbols. They're naturally mild-mannered and protective dogs. There are bad dogs to be sure, but no more than any other breed. Pit bull awareness programs and rescues are one of the two charities I've only ever given money to (and still do).
 
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The truth is most people (you) shouldn't even own medium or large dogs.
triplestation said:
german shepherds are great

siberian huskies are especially great

every single husky i've come across greets you with a big friendly smile and especially the puppies, whenever they meet anyone for the first time they wanna play with them like they've met a new best friend or some shit, fuck me i love huskies
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Yes, (regardless of the breed) at the end of the day if you have a dog in public, you have to be able to control it. Sticking a leash on it doesn't mean you're in control of it. If you know your dog is stronger pound for pound and can easily pull out your grip or you don't have the strength to hold it back then you should have a muzzle on it as well.

Of course is the girl is young and has been ordered to 'walk the dog' under duress from parents/owner then then the parents/owner should be accountable.
 
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The owner is responsible as well as the dog.
But the owner should be locked up because of lack of common sense. If you weigh the same as your blood thirsty dawg, you're an idiot.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN said:
Huskies have a high hunt/prey drive. They see smaller things than it as prey.
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As an owner of two huskies I can confirm their prey drive. Without a doubt every single time I visit my family they will kill at least one chicken depending on how long we visit.
One of mine is the friendliest ever with other dogs and humans but if something tiny runs from them they want it.
 
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