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[xrnzaaas]

I absolutely hate how some people walk their huge or dangerous breeds without the dog wearing a muzzle. It's a tragedy waiting to happen. Don't risk the lives of other people and their dogs for fuck's sake.

 

[Prison Mike]

Shoot the dog and lock her up.

Yeah clearly the dogs fault

 

[cormack12]

To be honest unleashed dogs in general are an issue. Most dog owners always approach the issue from a self point of view, "My dog is friendly therefore I don't need a lead because it's safe". However, there are plenty of dog owners that have dogs that do not socialise well and are always on leads - this might be down to trauma (rescue dogs), behavioural/socialisation or just personality. It's irresponisble, selfish and dangerous to allow your off the leash dog to approach or run over energetically/frantically and just nonchalantly declare 'it's ok, he doesn't bite'. The other owner is there saying 'Well mine does'.

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Of course, this is where muzzles should come in. While I can see a use for them pragmatically, I'm not 100% sold on them as being humane or dignified for a dog.

 

[888]

Yeah, I too wonder why OP would use the specific breed in his example.

Read my post above about identification. plus there are multiple breeds that use the term blowing out that number to scary levels.

let’s divide the number you provided by 6. (5 types of dogs and 1 group of misidentified dogs)

That is 47.3 per group. That’s without taking into consideration that misidentified dogs can occur up to 50 percent of the time (see my post). Which could lower that number for the actual verified dogs.

on top of that “pits” have a high pass rate for temperament testing. Just a quick search shows two of the dogs that fall into the pit term pass at higher percentages or matching the “family” dog the golden retriever. Also every dog site describes their temperament as being the playful loving family dog and courageous. It also describes them as very protective of their people. This can be exploited for bad things by bad people easily.

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as of January 2023 Page 1: Afghan Hound - Belgian Malinois Breed Name Tested Passed Failed Percent AFGHAN HOUND 167 122 45 73.1% AIREDALE TERRIER 110 86 24 78.2% AKBASH DOG 18 16 2 88.9% AKITA 622 489 133 78.6% ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOG 12 9

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But yeah, let’s keep using scary blown out numbers for shock value. Next time I see a lab getting called a pit on the news I’ll continue to roll my eyes.

 

[Woffls]

Case A: The girl is below 18, pedestrian survives the attack with deformities
Jail for parents. Shoot dog in front of girl.

Case B: The girl is above 18, pedestrian survives the attack with deformities
Jail. Shoot dog in front of girl.

Case C: The girl is below 18, pedestrian is killed by the attack
More jail for parents. Shoot dog in front of girl.

Case D: The girl is above 18, pedestrian is killed by the attack
More jail. Shoot dog in front of girl.

 

[888]

Nice! I've got an "American Pit Bull Terrier" Actually never seen this before, but my dog looks almost exactly like that except she has tan spots on her and a black nose. We did a DNA test (thought she was an Australian cattle dog). Turns out she is 40% coon hound, 40% american bulldog, 10% amstaff, 5% chinese sharpei, and the rest "unknown". People still ask if she's a pit, but she doesn't really look anything like one. Our last dog was an American Staffordshire/lab mix and he was the greatest. When we registered him the lady classified him as a "boxer mix" because pitties are illegal in our town. Breed-bans are bullshit.

Seriously tho, pits have a bad rep (mostly) because of their owners. People train them to be aggressive and keep them as status symbols. They're naturally mild-mannered and protective dogs. There are bad dogs to be sure, but no more than any other breed. Pit bull awareness programs and rescues are one of the two charities I've only ever given money to (and still do).

My first one was a true APBT. She was small and of course her ears weren’t cropped so they flopped goofily. She was 45lbs even overweight. People have this thought they all are huge. Usually the big ones are Amstaff and mixed breeds. My current I believe is an Amstaff French Bulldog mix. She’s about 75lbs. Has the body and head of an Amstaff but has French Bulldog ears that naturally stand without being cropped.

Breed Banning is really falling off. Like another poster mentioned before. Pits are the current breed to get all the drama but it’s actually slowing down a bit. BSL bans are being reversed last I read in some towns. This big new HOA I’m in now allows all breeds

My dog is very mild mannered and wants to love everyone but This is the one dog I’ve owned I know wouldn’t run if someone broke in.

I’ve actually noticed a running theme with all my pits. They have separation anxiety issues when being away from their people. All three of mine have done that and it leads for weird stuff around the house. My current one can’t be put in a cage and locked in. She messed her face up and broke 4 teeth trying to get to us. Woke up to a bloody dog in my bed wagging her tail. My last two did similar things. They have addictions to their people.

 

[DESTROYA]

Shoot the dog and lock her up.

Shoot the lock and dog her up.

I see where this is going.
Shoot the poop and do her doggy style

 

[eot]

 

[Malakhov]

Yeah I always worry about the hips and the cancer. Cancer got one of my pits, it was mast cel cancer that was a small bump under her belly and then one day it blew up so big and ripped through the skin. Had to put her down because it spread.

my last one that died had a heart murmur from when we adopted him. He got a kidney infection and his heart gave out in my arms. That was horrible.

We got Peppa a few days after he passed. Whole family was heart broken.

So sorry to hear about yours. Its so sad when we lose them. I read a lot about their hips and it seems really common with the American bred Shepard’s. But seems fairly common in lots of breeds. My retrievers when I was young had hip issues really bad. It’s sad to see them struggle.

Sorry for your loses as well.

Yeah the hips problem is due to the breeders trying to get the breed much bigger. The shepherds arent supposed to be as big as they are. The vet told me a male should be around 70-75lbs but now they're around 90lbs.

 

[Mihos]

Yeah I always worry about the hips and the cancer. Cancer got one of my pits, it was mast cel cancer that was a small bump under her belly and then one day it blew up so big and ripped through the skin. Had to put her down because it spread.

my last one that died had a heart murmur from when we adopted him. He got a kidney infection and his heart gave out in my arms. That was horrible.

We got Peppa a few days after he passed. Whole family was heart broken.

So sorry to hear about yours. Its so sad when we lose them. I read a lot about their hips and it seems really common with the American bred Shepard’s. But seems fairly common in lots of breeds. My retrievers when I was young had hip issues really bad. It’s sad to see them struggle.

We lost our Ausie last month at 13. She had really bad hip problems at the end and we had to carry her up and down the stairs.

We are bringing home our new Ausie puppy in a few weeks though. We are getting a mini-ausiedoodle this time around though, since carrying the dog around in our 60s is something we need to take into account if it ends up with the same hip problems.

 

[Jooxed]

I had a pit bull in my younger years ..his name was Jax, a Moth landed on him once and he got scared and pissed himself. On the other hand I came home one day to this because I had to stay at work a couple extra hours one day. Dude was strong as shit, For reference that was his naughty corner when he was in trouble i sent him there for timeout.. he heard me coming and already put himself there....and to top it off shit in said corner... Died from a blood disease he was born with the shelter didn't tell me about a couple years later....He was a really sweet dog though


Edit: picture annoyingly large basically my dog ate one of my end tables

 

[iconmaster]

Why does it have to be a pit? You fear monger.

Ah. One of those…

Not the dogs' fault. Violent assholes who want violent dogs get pitbulls and treat them badly to make them meaner. Fucking German Shepherds are third on that list. Are all German Shepherds monsters too?

Number three doesn’t mean much when you look at that chart. There’s pit bulls, and then there’s everything else.

(That’s not the most unbiased data source, but I’m going to assume it’s at least somewhat representative unless someone presents better.)

I’m sure ownership is a factor, but at some point it doesn’t matter. People’s lives matter more than getting to pick one breed over another. There’s been enough smoke from this fire. The breed ought to be outlawed.

 

[Jooxed]

Ah. One of those…

Number three doesn’t mean much when you look at that chart. There’s pit bulls, and then there’s everything else.

(That’s not the most unbiased data source, but I’m going to assume it’s at least somewhat representative unless someone presents better.)

I’m sure ownership is a factor, but at some point it doesn’t matter. People’s lives matter more than getting to pick one breed over another. There’s been enough smoke from this fire. The breed ought to be outlawed.

I wouldn't cross this dog either

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[iconmaster]

I wouldn't cross this dog either

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Tasmanian devils are cute too. What’s your point?

 

[GymWolf]

Bad dog almost doesn't exist, only bad owners.

 

[Jooxed]

Tasmanian devils are cute too. What’s your point?

All i am saying is my parents raised three Rottweilers and I had a Pitbull from your list and none of which had an aggressive bone in their body, so at some point I have to question Nature vs Nurture. Especially against people touting charts with no hands on experience with the breed. What I do see if a lot of pitbulls in shelters (my wife is a veterinarian) and a lot of people adopting Pitbulls that should not own Pitbulls (myself included when I owned one) and I see them going in and out of shelters or worse on the streets and being such a common breed because they are cute or because they were a popular breed becoming aggressive, not having a stable home life. Go to any shelter..it's filled with Pitbull mixes from people that didn't know how to handle their dog which is sad.

I'm also not necessarily disagreeing you, a lot of apartments and stuff I see outlaw pitbulls living there and stuff just because it just isn't enough space for them and they can't burn their energy etc. I don't think people should be allowed to adopt a dog they can't handle which unfortunately is most Pitbull owners.(again myself included when I was a young idiot)

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

All i am saying is my parents raised three Rottweilers and I had a Pitbull from your list and none of which had an aggressive bone in their body, so at some point I have to question Nature vs Nurture. Especially against people touting charts with no hands on experience with the breed. What I do see if a lot of pitbulls in shelters (my wife is a veterinarian) and a lot of people adopting Pitbulls that should not own Pitbulls (myself included when I owned one) and I see them going in and out of shelters or worse on the streets and being such a common breed because they are cute or because they were a popular breed becoming aggressive, not having a stable home life. Go to any shelter..it's filled with Pitbull mixes from people that didn't know how to handle their dog which is sad.

I'm also not necessarily disagreeing you, a lot of apartments and stuff I see outlaw pitbulls living there and stuff just because it just isn't enough space for them and they can't burn their energy etc. I don't think people should be allowed to adopt a dog they can't handle which unfortunately is most Pitbull owners.(again myself included when I was a young idiot)

Realistically dogs were a mistake. We should have never played god.

Prove me wrong.

 

[Nymphae]

My simple rule is I don't hang around or purchase animals that I wouldn't be able to kick the head off of in an emergency.

 

[AV]

I’m sure ownership is a factor, but at some point it doesn’t matter. People’s lives matter more than getting to pick one breed over another. There’s been enough smoke from this fire. The breed ought to be outlawed.

Ownership is the main factor, there's been numerous studies done again and again over many years. Dogs aren't born evil. Pit bulls are the only breed that were ever bred for fighting and that was pre-1900. Staffies and bull terriers also get lumped in with them, and some other breed I can't remember. You'd need to ban all 4 at the very least if you were considering banning one. But a loving family raising a pit bull properly will turn it into a loving and lovable dog. A piece of shit raising any dog will turn it into a piece of shit.

The problem with banning one breed purely to prevent dicks from training them to be vicious, is that those dicks will just move to another breed that looks mean, and so on, and so on. They aren't just going to stop overnight because they can't specifically own a pit bull. Rottweilers become the new go-to vicious dog and their line on that graph above skyrockets, then we ban Rottweilers and suddenly we're considering banning german shepherds. Slippery slope.

 

[888]

Ah. One of those…

Number three doesn’t mean much when you look at that chart. There’s pit bulls, and then there’s everything else.

(That’s not the most unbiased data source, but I’m going to assume it’s at least somewhat representative unless someone presents better.)

I’m sure ownership is a factor, but at some point it doesn’t matter. People’s lives matter more than getting to pick one breed over another. There’s been enough smoke from this fire. The breed ought to be outlawed.

Ha. It was a joke. But seriously. It was a ridiculous OP.

Also good luck outlawing a breed that is so large and mixed with all sorts of dogs. Maybe make sure people have them registered and trained properly. That would be more attainable thru the current registration system. Dogs with 10 percent pit are automatically labeled pit. No other though is given to a mix besides pit. Take a look at my post above. The term pit would best be removed and allow each dog type be represented separately. There is a difference between a bull terrier, APBT, Amstaff terrier and mixed breeds. Instead it’s all Pit because reasons. Seriously the target dog looks different enough to all the others yet is still lumped in there.

 

[Southern Gentleman]

Shoot her and lock the dog up.

I laughed

 

[Yoshi]

Lock up triplestation because he was the mastermind.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

My simple rule is I don't hang around or purchase animals that I wouldn't be able to kick the head off of in an emergency.

So literally any person that goes to the gym?

 

[Super Mario]

It's funny because in my dog's lifetime, he was attacked once. It was by a pit that the small woman couldn't control.

If dogs had political affiliations, they would be Democrats. Poor victims because of facts.