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[Topher]

I was only mentioning the relevant one.

No other controllers are relevant but Sony's?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

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NOTE: We won't be getting into which one is better than the other here. We can discuss layouts further in OT - but let's keep it civil here. Thank you.

 

[MrAlwaysRight]

Not to mention the hundreds of third party pads that have been released since Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo started using analog sticks, that have been released using the same shit Alps Potentiometer modules.

 

[vodka-bull]

No other controllers are relevant but Sony's?

Not for me, no.

But fine, all first party controllers are garbage, if it makes you happy.

And I'd like to add: if you're replacing your Dualsense and throwing 80 bucks down the toilet instead of replacing just the stick modules (or get someone who'll replace it for you), you're part of the problem!

 

[Topher]

Not for me, no.

But fine, all first party controllers are garbage, if it makes you happy.

No need to get snarky. Just trying to figure out your point in an OT about controllers in general.

Moving on....

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

And I'd like to add: if you're replacing your Dualsense and throwing 80 bucks down the toilet instead of replacibg just the stick modules, you're part of the problem!

Biggest reason I have switched all my DS controllers to the Edge, plus I love the weight in my big bear paw sized mitts

 

[vodka-bull]

Biggest reason I have switched all my DS controllers to the Edge, plus I love the weight in my big bear paw sized mitts

And whenever one stick starts to drift you'll get it fixed instead of just buying a new module from Sony, right, right?

Edge ain't the solution unfortunately. Someone who knows how to solder is…

 

[RoboFu]

This is my cheapest controller and also my favorite pc controller.

https://a.co/d/fFOU3px

 

[simpatico]

My XBone controller just won't die. Bought it near launch for PC use. It is still kicking, preventing me from buying a new controller. Will it ever die? Am I forced to play on an Xbone controller with smoothed over analog sticks for eternity?

 

[MrAlwaysRight]

It's clearly TMR

 

[MrAlwaysRight]

And whenever one stick starts to drift you'll get it fixed instead of just buying a new module from Sony, right, right?

Edge ain't the solution unfortunately. Someone who knows how to solder is…

Luckily there seems to be a lot of people selling TMR modules for the Dualsense Edge or even willing to add them to the standard Dualsense, the guy i got my modules from actually does it for under £40 if you send your pad to him.

 

[StereoVsn]

Love the OP, amazing job BeardSpike !

I am fairly basic on PS5/XSX since I use just regular controllers from Sony/MS. Well, I do have Xbox Elite 2 controller but mostly use that on PC and that hasn't broken down yet, fingers crossed.

I do like the regular pads and they could be had for a good price on sale back in 2020-2021 so I got a few as a backup for each. I still think Dual Sense is the most comfortable controller (crazy sale for a return off Amazon a few BF ago) I have ever used and I even use it on PC quite often.

Otherwise I have tried a few 8bitdo pads, couple from Gamesir and they are quite good. But for comfort, base PS5/XSX take the top spot.

I do use the 8bitdo with iOS, PC, and Switch quite often. Not a huge fan of Switch "Pro" controller as dpad sucks, but otherwise it's serviceable.

Best time to buy is as always on Black Friday (in US at least) and I recommend keeping an eye on Amazon's "Almost New" returns and BestBuy's "Excellent" as often these go down deep during a good sale.

Edit: Forgot that I have a wired PowerA controller for Xbox with 4 paddles that's pretty good but wired is annoying for consoles.

Oh, and I have 2 Steam Controllers (1st I got alongside super cheap Steam Machine and 2nd was $15 ).

 

[StereoVsn]

Ohhhhh great thread! I have a crap ton of controllers spanning MANY eons!

Current daily controller:
PC: GameSir G7 pro
Switch: Pro 2
PS: DS Edge/Razer V2 (after the 45 minutes of the DS Edge are used up)

Favorite fight stick:
Leverless: Razer Kuni or the 8bitdo (surprisingly awesome)

Traditional:
Victrix or whatever Madcatz TE that's laying around.

Emulation:
Mister- SNAC for whatever platform
8bitdo pro 3 (but having compatibility issues with some hardware).

I have the same Gamesir controller and I like it quite a bit. It's quite good for the money, IMO.

 

[Poppinfresh]

Switching out the battery on my Dual Sense Edge made the biggest difference. Probably my favorite controller now, followed closely by the 8BitDo Ultimate 2

 

[Mr Moose]

Nice.
Might be the perfect place to ask. Noticed what might've been some stick drift playing Genshin the other day on my 3rd DualSense, won't be buying another one if it was (all 3 console makers need suing for this shit).
Which is the best PS5 controller with HE/TMR sticks out of these 3 (and is there any others)?
Nacon Revolution 5 Pro
Victrix Pro BFG Reloaded
Razer Raiju V3 Pro

I like that the BFG Reloaded is modular, but I don't know if it's a good controller.

 

[vodka-bull]

Luckily there seems to be a lot of people selling TMR modules for the Dualsense Edge or even willing to add them to the standard Dualsense, the guy i got my modules from actually does it for under £40 if you send your pad to him.

I have a local guy who does it for 50€ as well. 20€ cheaper than a new one, cleaning a Dualsense and switching the rubber stick caps is fairly easy, there's no way I'll ever give Sony my money again for their potentiometer controllers.

And the thing is sooner or later they'll all drift, it's the same old RROD situation again, this time just with controllers.

 

[yet_another_alt]

How come there's no black 8bitdo Pro 3?

 

[dave_d]

I will always point out the N64, which was optical, was actually digital. (Digital proportional to be specific. ) I think some of the old Microsoft flight sticks were digital as well.

 

[Kataploom]

I just want to share something: For some reason the Xbox controller randomly disconnects from Windows and not even the "fix" update fixed it. Well... It doesn't happen in Linux lol.

I just put my hands on the 8-bitDo one with HAL effect sticks and I really liked it, gonna buy it later.

 

[Sakura]

Hall Effect was originally used in the Sega Dreamcast

I believe the Saturn had it originally.

 

[jshackles]

Amazon has the PC / Android version of the 8bitdo ultimate 2 on sale for like $40, pretty tempting even though I had quite a few problems with the Ultimate 1.

 

[BeardSpike]

Please do!

Okay that one is for Linux bros, if you have ANY issues with new controller you bought and it isn't picked up by Xpad driver and is listed unsupported on Linux in gamepadla.com

First what you want to do is check the back of the controller if there is an Switch from Nintendo input, DS Input, Xinput.

Then if it still isn't working open terminal and type in

lsusb

Hit enter. This will list all of your USB connected devices.

Edit: sometimes you have to plug in controller wired fo it to pick up your vendor id and product id because it could and probably will pick 2.4Ghz dongle first but also spammed it into my udev rules lmao.

This is based on https://gist.github.com/ammuench/0dcf14faf4e3b000020992612a2711e

This is an 8BitDo tutorial but can be replaced with other manufacturers too.

I had possitive things happen when I modified it for FlyDigi Apex 5 controller as it wasn't supported on Linux apparently.

Open terminal yet again or if you hadn't closed it already type

sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/99-8bitdo-xinput.rules

You can replace it 99-flydigi-xinput.rules or whatever brand you use or just make general 99-controllers-xinput.rules

ACTION=="add", ATTRS{idVendor}=="2dc8", ATTRS{idProduct}=="3106", RUN+="/sbin/modprobe xpad", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo 2dc8 3106 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/xpad/new_id'"

Copy your vendor id product from lsusb command (shift+ctrl+c) and paste (shift+ctrl+v) same with product id, replace echo values too.

Save the file, ctrl+s. Exit.

Type in:

sudo udevadm control --reload

And it should force it to use Xpad driver.

On Arch you can download new patched Xpad driver and use it as DKMS (Dynamic Kernel Module Support) but if one uses something like Bazzite they can't update Xpad drivers, they could probably do an Xinput udev rule.

 

[Crayon]

I tried an 8bit do for my switch and it had rugged lag. I've never heard anyone complain about it, though. I think you can upgrade the firmware but I just sent it back. I wasn't too impressed with the controller itself, really.

vvv Anyone ever had one of these things? Surprisingly, it's usable. Not good, but usable. Pics below not mine, btw.

vvv Anyone remember these bad boys? After seeing how nice wireless was with wavebird, I ended up with one of these, and then a pair.

vvv So this one is near and dear to my heart. So there was this one stretch where I was super poor. Though I had to be very frugal, this really didn't slow me down gaming at all. Even 20 years ago, I had a pretty good retro collection and to this day I have many new-to-me games to dip into. So I played a lot of that. But I had a fairly old pentium 4 desktop that I used for just browser. I realized there was a bunch of untapped potential there. So I went looking for a cheap controller, and found that these things were $10, and logitech so how bad could it be.

The living accommodations were kind of limited so I had a large monitor on a coffee table as my tv, and the computer was already there. I'd watch youtube on it. So I had a couch-pc setup before it was cool. I plugged this cheese-pizza into the usb port and boom I was in business. Pulled down some emulators. Finally got to properly play cave story. I love dosbox and I managed to cram some unlikely games onto that controller. And with a little assistance from the nearby keyboard for less-used keys, I was playing all kinds of stuff on there while couch-loafing. So I go A LOT of mileage out of this $10 controller and I'll always love it.

 

[BeardSpike]

I believe the Saturn had it originally.

Should we add this in Astray ?

 

[BeardSpike]

Thanks! I started looking at 8bitdo options on Amazon.

For some reason I thought 8bitdo was super expensive, but their wireless Xbox-style PC controllers I'm seeing are the same price or even cheaper than first-party. What?!

ZD O+ Excellence looks like a mix of Xbox 360 controller and Xbox Series controller.

https://gamepadla.com/zd-o-excellence.html it is doing decent numbers wired, too bad dongle is has lower numbers but anyways it looks decent

Summoning FukuDaruma as he has bought one and looked for a replacement of Xbox Series Elite 2 with backpaddles. He may want to say more about it.

I personally look forward to ZD Ultimate with redesigned trigger stops position, apparently ZD has taken notice that some users are not happy with it's position.

 

[Coconutt]

Good enough for a submarine, good enough for me.

 

[BeardSpike]

Here's a random picture of controllers, but the reason I'm posting it is because of the prototype Steam Machine controller in the top right. I won't be home for a few days, but I wanted to post this controller, since it's pretty interesting. But it's the only picture I have of it atm.

It has no sticks, two touch pads, these super awkward ABXY buttons, and then four programmable square buttons in the middle. It's a horrible controller.

I was one of the 300 people who received a prototype Steam Machine back in the day, and I remember giving pretty scathing feedback about this controller. Thankfully, they drastically changed it.

(Side note about the above picture. If you zoom in on the X360 controller's left stick, you'll see a metal octagonal gate that I modded in there. This was to give me cardinal and diagonal notches to better play games like Marble Blast Ultra, and certain fighting games.)

Here's another interesting one. It's a hotel Lodgenet controller I "acquired" from a hotel when they were changing out TVs. It's modded to play on a normal GameCube, but the hotel buttons are obviously non-functional. It's interesting, this controller I believe was made by Hori, and even though it feels first-party and high-quality, some of the buttons are a bit different. The Z button, especially, is very clicky with no spring mechanism.

And here's one more neat one. The world's smallest GameCube controller! This was originally one of those GameCube controller keychains, but there's an incredible modder out there who makes a ton of custom controllers (I forget her name, but I'll edit this comment when I find it), and I contacted her and she made me one. It's 100% fully functional. Both sticks are fully analog. The tiny d-pad works. All of the buttons work. (No L and R analog, just digital.) And it even has a tiny rumble motor in it!

Easily one of the coolest controllers I own.

How do you like WiI U pro controller?

Its another one of these forgotten symmetrical layouts with stick in upper position instead of the bottom.

I heard it superior in FPS games but haven't have had one so far.

I think out of new controllers only Dobe makes those now.

EDIT: Initially I had this typed in into our OT spreadsheet but dunno what happend with that, it's been months honestly lmao.

 

[Dacvak]

How do you like WiI U pro controller?

Its another one of these forgotten symmetrical layouts with stick in upper position instead of the bottom.

I heard it superior in FPS games but haven't have had one so far.

I think out of new controllers only Dobe makes those now.

It's okay. The higher right stick definitely feels weird, and the ergonomics of the controller aren't the best. But it's still a nice controller overall.

It's just tough to get used to the right stick being so high. It goes against my muscle memory. If I really gave it enough time, I bet I could get used to it. But there's nothing all that special about the rest of the controller to warrant putting in that time.

 

[Durin]

Cool thread BeardSpike , especially because I was gonna try out a few controllers this Black Friday.

I was looking at the Gamesir G7 Pro vs the 8BitDo Ultimate 2. Leaning towards the Gamesir, but I heard the Steam Input and Linux integration were a bit worse than the 8bitdo. The extra buttons and gyro functionality didn't natively get picked up by steam input, but wasn't sure if there was any solution for that, because the build quality looked a bit better. I mostly wanna try both to see comfort, if TMR sticks are worth it, quality of the buttons + d-pad, and how the gyro + rumble features compare.

Also was looking to get more mileage out of my smartphone and switch, so I thought about also getting the GameSir - G8 Plus. Not sure if anyone has tried this before, or if doing a usb-c one is preferable.

 

[BeardSpike]

It's okay. The higher right stick definitely feels weird, and the ergonomics of the controller aren't the best. But it's still a nice controller overall.

It's just tough to get used to the right stick being so high. It goes against my muscle memory. If I really gave it enough time, I bet I could get used to it. But there's nothing all that special about the rest of the controller to warrant putting in that time.

Huh, I will probably not even try it I guess, thanks for clarification. Nobody improved the ergonomics nor hardware so I doubt it will do more than 125Hz polling rate with pretty high latency.

As of sticks position I played on PlayStation controllers all my life a bit of PSX/PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS5.

Recently I ditched consoles at all and switched to a PC gaming, this is right about the time I went into 3rd party controllers rabbit hole lmao.

I hadn't have had problems with switching to Xbox layout that much. Maybe my muscle memory did some weird things with searching for dpad at the beginning, it could pass in due time if you used it often. Mine did, and I honestly dig both layouts now .

I'm waiting for Gulikit TT Max and Pro.

GuliKit Showcases New Professional Game Controllers and Joysticks at Tokyo Game Show 2025-GuliKit

GuliKit Unveils Groundbreaking Gaming Technologies and Next-Generation Controllers at Gamescom 2025-GuliKit

And also Gamesir new Tarantula Orange (Competitive Edition) and Tarantula Xbox both are symmetrical.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamesir/s/409Mj2jijR

 

[BeardSpike]

Cool thread BeardSpike , especially because I was gonna try out a few controllers this Black Friday.

I was looking at the Gamesir G7 Pro vs the 8BitDo Ultimate 2. Leaning towards the Gamesir, but I heard the Steam Input and Linux integration were a bit worse than the 8bitdo. The extra buttons and gyro functionality didn't natively get picked up by steam input, but wasn't sure if there was any solution for that, because the build quality looked a bit better. I mostly wanna try both to see comfort, if TMR sticks are worth it, quality of the buttons + d-pad, and how the gyro + rumble features compare.

Also was looking to get more mileage out of my smartphone and switch, so I thought about also getting the GameSir - G8 Plus. Not sure if anyone has tried this before, or if doing a usb-c one is preferable.

I can test my G7 Pro extensively over the weekend if you want.

Honestly I didn't test gyro like at all on both of my OSs, lmao.

Do you want for me to test it on Windows 11 or CachyOS?

Sticks are the smoothest of any controller I currently have in motion.

Aiming in COD is better on Gulikit ES Pro for me. Although sticks don't move as smooth as G7 Pro.

I've been reading reddit a lot and lots of users have to tweak their curves on G7 Pro because their K/D is awful, I've been noticing it too.

Gamesir G7 Pro

Input lag testing of Gamesir G7 Pro gamepad. Compatible with: android, pc, Xbox One and Xbox S/X. Conducted 3 tests with connection by: bluetooth, cable and dongle.

gamepadla.com

Gamepadla states a lot of data travel points on sticks. So I tried to put it from 1000Hz to 500Hz on some of my profiles and I think I can aim better.

Maybe because it is really sensitive dunno.

As of ergonomics I like it better than any 8BitDo controllers, and I think I had them all.

The thing is in any 8BitDo controller you basically have to tuck your elbows in for your wrists to not hurt.

I don't get that with G7 Pro and Super Nova. Both are really comfy for my smallish hands too.

 

[Hudo]

Okay that one is for Linux bros, if you have ANY issues with new controller you bought and it isn't picked up by Xpad driver and is listed unsupported on Linux in gamepadla.com

First what you want to do is check the back of the controller if there is an Switch from Nintendo input, DS Input, Xinput.

Then if it still isn't working open terminal and type in

lsusb

Hit enter. This will list all of your USB connected devices.

Edit: sometimes you have to plug in controller wired fo it to pick up your vendor id and product id because it could and probably will pick 2.4Ghz dongle first but also spammed it into my udev rules lmao.

This is based on https://gist.github.com/ammuench/0dcf14faf4e3b000020992612a2711e

This is an 8BitDo tutorial but can be replaced with other manufacturers too.

I had possitive things happen when I modified it for FlyDigi Apex 5 controller as it wasn't supported on Linux apparently.

Open terminal yet again or if you hadn't closed it already type

sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/99-8bitdo-xinput.rules

You can replace it 99-flydigi-xinput.rules or whatever brand you use or just make general 99-controllers-xinput.rules

ACTION=="add", ATTRS{idVendor}=="2dc8", ATTRS{idProduct}=="3106", RUN+="/sbin/modprobe xpad", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo 2dc8 3106 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/xpad/new_id'"

Copy your vendor id product from lsusb command (shift+ctrl+c) and paste (shift+ctrl+v) same with product id, replace echo values too.

Save the file, ctrl+s. Exit.

Type in:

sudo udevadm control --reload

And it should force it to use Xpad driver.

On Arch you can download new patched Xpad driver and use it as DKMS (Dynamic Kernel Module Support) but if one uses something like Bazzite they can't update Xpad drivers, they could probably do an Xinput udev rule.

I hope it's ok that I have copied your post into a txt file on my backup drive. Just in case.

 

[BeardSpike]

I hope it's ok that I have copied your post into a txt file on my backup drive. Just in case.

Sure thing, I credited my source so I also copied it from somewhere too, lmao.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/s/p1yikTDhWJ

Here are more 8BitDo product ids if anyone needs them.

If anyone has different manufacturers controller you have to use lsusb to identify its vendor and product id as I have already mentioned.

Also one just could do:

sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/99-controllers-xinput.rules

Instead of gedit it depends on what text editor you have in your distro. That's it.

 

[FukuDaruma]

ZD O+ Excellence looks like a mix of Xbox 360 controller and Xbox Series controller.

https://gamepadla.com/zd-o-excellence.html it is doing decent numbers wired, too bad dongle is has lower numbers but anyways it looks decent

Summoning FukuDaruma as he has bought one and looked for a replacement of Xbox Series Elite 2 with backpaddles. He may want to say more about it.

I've been trying the ZD O+ Excellence with optical buttons and both 3D Hall and K-Silver TMR sticks and after a month of intensive testing... I ended up going back to my Xbox Elite 2

• 3D Hall sticks are mostly fine but TMR sticks are too stiff. They have too much centering force.
• Optical buttons are fine, but I mostly use the paddles instead.
• The battery barely lasts one single session of 4-6 hours. A lot less than the Elite.
• Grip is not as good as the Elite, it ended up hurting my left little finger for some reason.
• Vibration is good, but not quite as strong and detailed as the Elite 2.
• There is no way to turn off all lights.
• reWASD only recognizes it as a 360 gamepad, so any paddle mappings you have to do in the ZD mobile app
• There is no Windows software, only a mobile app that was in chinese only. Now there is a new version with english.
• It has clicky hair triggers, but not half trigger stop like the Elite 2.
• Paddles are good, but a tiny bit less good than the Elite 2, and noisier.
• It has gyro but I don't use that.

Overall it's not a bad controller, but the Elite 2 is a better fit for my preferences:
I don't do any online multiplayer/competitive gaming. I don't have a drift problem. I value good rumble/vibration for immersion.

I don't know exactly why, but playing an fps like Alien Rogue Incursion felt much worse than with the Elite 2. The stick movement wasn't as smooth and precise for me.
Same with Chronos The New Dawn. Tried several right stick motion curves but never was able to make the camera motion as smooth and intuitive as with the Elite 2 defaults.
I assumed that 3D Hall and TMR sticks and 800Hz polling rate (tested) via cable would be noticeably better and more precise than the Elite 2, but it didn't feel an improvement to me. On the contrary, it felt twitchy.

After playing a lot of those games (one third person and one FPS) with it, going back to the Elite 2 felt much better.

 

[BeardSpike]

I've been trying the ZD O+ Excellence with optical buttons and both 3D Hall and K-Silver TMR sticks and after a month of intensive testing... I ended up going back to my Xbox Elite 2

• 3D Hall sticks are mostly fine but TMR sticks are too stiff. They have too much centering force.
• Optical buttons are fine, but I mostly use the paddles instead.
• The battery barely lasts one single session of 4-6 hours. A lot less than the Elite.
• Grip is not as good as the Elite, it ended up hurting my left little finger for some reason.
• Vibration is good, but not quite as strong and detailed as the Elite 2.
• There is no way to turn off all lights.
• reWASD only recognizes it as a 360 gamepad, so any paddle mappings you have to do in the ZD mobile app
• There is no Windows software, only a mobile app that was in chinese only. Now there is a new version with english.
• It has clicky hair triggers, but not half trigger stop like the Elite 2.
• Paddles are good, but a tiny bit less good than the Elite 2, and noisier.
• It has gyro but I don't use that.

Overall it's not a bad controller, but the Elite 2 is a better fit for my preferences:
I don't do any online multiplayer/competitive gaming. I don't have a drift problem. I value good rumble/vibration for immersion.

I don't know exactly why, but playing an fps like Alien Rogue Incursion felt much worse than with the Elite 2. The stick movement wasn't as smooth and precise for me.
Same with Chronos The New Dawn. Tried several right stick motion curves but never was able to make the camera motion as smooth and intuitive as with the Elite 2 defaults.
I assumed that 3D Hall and TMR sticks and 800Hz polling rate (tested) via cable would be noticeably better and more precise than the Elite 2, but it didn't feel an improvement to me. On the contrary, it felt twitchy.

After playing a lot of those games (one third person and one FPS) with it, going back to the Elite 2 felt much better.

That's what kept me from ordering ZD Ultimate, the app besides trigger stops switch position.

I found Gulikits approach to config your controller with combination of buttons to be more versatile on both Win and Linux. Same thing goes for Gamesir, you can do a lot on for example Super Nova without software.

https://www.gulikit.com/filedownload/165432

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2241/8433/files/GameSir-Super_Nova_Manual.pdf?v=1740990709

Plus my Super Nova has sick charging animation.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

My favorite controller ever. 8BitDo Ultimate 2.

 

[Astray]

Should we add this in Astray ?

Saturn controller didn't have an analog stick to begin with, unless there was some later peripheral that included them and they were indeed hall-effect?

 

[Sakura]

Saturn controller didn't have an analog stick to begin with, unless there was some later peripheral that included them and they were indeed hall-effect?

They had a controller with a stick for 3D games, I think originally developed in mind for Nights into Dreams but used in other 3D games as well.

https://segaretro.org/3D_Control_Pad

 

[TrebleShot]

Every few months I do a little controller switch up and hunt.
So much hype for the Gamesir G7 Pro, personally I think its a terrible controller. It feels cheap and plastic, the mouse switch buttons are horrible and the shoulder pad buttons feel like an afterthought, sort of sticking out awkwardly.

Weirdly the sticks don't feel as smooth as the base G7 despite having anti friction rings and TMR sticks. lol

The best controller I have used at the moment is the xbox elite 2 of course you get stick drift n all but its the most comfortable and works with everything no issues. Close second is the Dualsense, a little limited wireless but works with every game i have tried just lacking the comfort and native support.

Outside of these 2 I have been using the 8bitdo ultimate 2 and its decent but feels quite cheap and plastic.

 

[BeardSpike]

Gonna post issues I had 8BitDo Pro 3 PS inspired theme



Sold by Aknes.com hopped on to their discord. And reported it.

They said to keep the unit and replaced it with free G Classic and this one behaves ok.

Basically my trigger springs were flipped in my first unit. Second one is OK.

FlyDigi Apex 5 CQ


Their support said it is completely normal and within norms, lmao.

Returned it. The problem lies with bearings you don't have access to and I wasn't gonna to tear it apart and replace the modules although they apparently are replaceable, but it's not as easy as let's in say ZD controllers.

 

[Durin]

I can test my G7 Pro extensively over the weekend if you want.

Honestly I didn't test gyro like at all on both of my OSs, lmao.

Do you want for me to test it on Windows 11 or CachyOS?

I suppose I'd be more interested in CachyOS if you have the time to test it. Not having gyro or the additional buttons (bumper and back buttons) not working wouldn't be a total deal-breaker, but given the pace of advancement in Linux I just kind of imagine I'll be using it as my default in the future over Windows once the Nvidia performance improves enough. I just did an AI search asking about it, and it didn't see like there was any native support in Linux, the app only works on Windows.

Aiming in COD is better on Gulikit ES Pro for me. Although sticks don't move as smooth as G7 Pro.

I liked the specs and latency on the Gulikit controllers, but I've just heard too many stories (including from a friend) about the quality control and longevity. My friend had this right trigger lock break, and the left bumper get loose misclicking within a year. I think it was the KK3 MAX, but me looking at a new controller is partially for the TMR/Hall Effect stuff, and also because my Xbox Elite 2 controller left bumper sticks down unless I pull the front face-plate out leaving a gap for it too work. My Xbox Elite 1 controller had the right bumper just break off because of the flimsy plastic, so I'm trying to get something that will last.

Gamepadla states a lot of data travel points on sticks. So I tried to put it from 1000Hz to 500Hz on some of my profiles and I think I can aim better.

Maybe because it is really sensitive dunno.

As of ergonomics I like it better than any 8BitDo controllers, and I think I had them all.

I've never actually used any of the hall effect triggers or tmr sticks before, so I imagine I'll probably adjust them to get the feel right. I just always heard they're more accurate, and all of these controllers have better latency.

Not sure if I'll have the same ergonomic problems. I tend to cramp up with PS1-4 controllers as an adult because the grips for my hands are too short, and thankfully Sony fixed that with the PS5 pad. I've always liked Xbox pads because my hands have more room, and prefer the asymmetric design.

If I had more money, I did kinda think the 8BitDo Pro 3 controller looked cool for retro games, but not sure how good the d-pad is on any of these pads for doing precise platforming.

 

[Astray]

They had a controller with a stick for 3D games, I think originally developed in mind for Nights into Dreams but used in other 3D games as well.

https://segaretro.org/3D_Control_Pad

Lol I had no idea this existed. The analog stick design is also very unusual.

Nothing in the link about it being a hall-effect stick though, I thought maybe we need to fix the N64 reference on analog sticks in general, but this launched a month after the Nintendo 64, so it juuuuuust misses out on that too.

Very interesting how gaming was such a wild-west environment back then.