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[BeardSpike]

That's a nice looking controller but IIRC it only has digital triggers since it's designed primarily for FPS.

The Alpakka 2 looks ineresting too but by the time it's out, the Steam Controller probably is too. At this point, I'm just waffling between getting a Dualsense Edge and buy modded TMR modules or go with the Hex Gaming Phantom. But I kind of wanted an xinput controller because some games don't work properly on the DualSense like Detroit.

You could buy an used DualSense Edge. I'm thinking the same actually if that Gulikit brakes.

New thumbsticks are cheap, I can also wash it with wet wipes after previous owner, and sometimes its off more than 50% compared to new one.

And the mod shop I would be dropping it for an TMR swap has all the other replacement parts, like paths and buttons and stuff.

Plus it works supposedly with 5-6ms latency and 750hz with that Hyperlink 2 dongle. And I think it will use Xinput through it.

 

[yet_another_alt]

You could buy an used DualSense Edge. I'm thinking the same actually if that Gulikit brakes.

New thumbsticks are cheap, I can also wash it with wet wipes after previous owner, and sometimes its off more than 50% compared to new one.

And the mod shop I would be dropping it for an TMR swap has all the other replacement parts, like paths and buttons and stuff.

Plus it works supposedly with 5-6ms latency and 750hz with that Hyperlink 2 dongle. And I think it will use Xinput through it.

What I'm really looking for but can't find are pre-modded DS Edge with bigger batteries. Yes I could probably install one myself but I'm lazy.There are so many modders that take orders for fully customized regular DualSense but don't see any for Edge

 

[BeardSpike]

What I'm really looking for but can't find are pre-modded DS Edge with bigger batteries. Yes I could probably install one myself but I'm lazy.There are so many modders that take orders for fully customized regular DualSense but don't see any for Edge

Maybe search in bigger cities, under DualSense and PS5 repairs.

There's a one shop I found in my country, and they mostly talk about repairs.

But then there is a list of controllers, and they actually do Edge and install Hall Effect and TMR modules for both regular DualSense and Edge. But that already falls under modding to me, lmao.

I bet if I asked the guy to put in the bigger battery, he would do it.

And I can send the controller to them from what I have initially talked with them. And my friend has send in both of his regular DualSense's so I know they are legit.

 

[yet_another_alt]

Maybe search in bigger cities, under DualSense and PS5 repairs.

There's a one shop I found in my country, and they mostly talk about repairs.

But then there is a list of controllers, and they actually do Edge and install Hall Effect and TMR modules for both regular DualSense and Edge. But that already falls under modding to me, lmao.

I bet if I asked the guy to put in the bigger battery, he would do it.

And I can send the controller to them from what I have initially talked with them. And my friend has send in both of his regular DualSense's so I know they are legit.

Good point about trying local. There's a hobby shop nearby that can probably do it if I bring them the parts.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

So far so good on the Gamesir G7 Pro. And it came with a code for a month of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, which actually worked! $30 right there.

 

[BeardSpike]

So far so good on the Gamesir G7 Pro. And it came with a code for a month of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, which actually worked! $30 right there.

You can try to make sticks more linear.

|OT| Community Hardware  Post in thread 'Controllers |OT| It's the Hall-Effect Life!'

Nov 20, 2025

Durin @Stafford Astray @Diseased Yak

Found a lot of cool curve settings for G7 Pro.

The reason for this is likely because Gamesir G7 Pro's JS16 TMR sticks have low sensitivity near neutral point and high sensitivity at the edges. Whilst the Hyperkin Xenon has regular potentiometers with a ~linear output.

Monoru has two options for linearizing the G7 Pro:
1. (5,5)-(20,21)-(60,63)
2. (15,16)-(25,28)-(50,53)

Theres also GreedZz variant of #2:
(9,10)-(25,28)-(50,53)

Search monoru on YouTube and you'll find his G7 Pro review that explains the pros/cons of...

• BeardSpike

• 
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This made me fully enjoy the controller, I was sensitive to its non-linearity.

I also jumped yesterday between G7 Pro, Gulikit TT Max and ES Pro.

And I have to say, G7 Pro seems the most comfortable to me, followed Gamesir Super Nova and then by ES Pro and TT Max is the last in terms of comfort.

They made the TT Max slightly bigger and wider than ES Pro, and I have a feeling it has slightly different shape of the grip, might be due to those haptic motors they use instead of regular rumble.

Edit: if Gamesir ever releases Super Nova 2 with improved TMR sticks and lower latency, I'm grabbing it for sure.


yet_another_alt
And I have a feeling new Tarantula models could be better than both TT Max and Pro 3 from 8bitdo. Definitely in terms of quality, that's for sure.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I'm kinda intrigued

 

[Durin]

I'm kinda intrigued

This looks like the thing pro fighting game players would use in old age to keep enjoying the game, but not aggravate their wrecked carpel tunnel hands. Not sure I'd lay down money for it, but I'd like to demo it at least to see if it still fun to play like that.

 

[Astray]

You can try to make sticks more linear.

|OT| Community Hardware  Post in thread 'Controllers |OT| It's the Hall-Effect Life!'

Nov 20, 2025

Durin @Stafford Astray @Diseased Yak

Found a lot of cool curve settings for G7 Pro.

The reason for this is likely because Gamesir G7 Pro's JS16 TMR sticks have low sensitivity near neutral point and high sensitivity at the edges. Whilst the Hyperkin Xenon has regular potentiometers with a ~linear output.

Monoru has two options for linearizing the G7 Pro:
1. (5,5)-(20,21)-(60,63)
2. (15,16)-(25,28)-(50,53)

Theres also GreedZz variant of #2:
(9,10)-(25,28)-(50,53)

Search monoru on YouTube and you'll find his G7 Pro review that explains the pros/cons of...

• BeardSpike

• 
• 

This made me fully enjoy the controller, I was sensitive to its non-linearity.

I also jumped yesterday between G7 Pro, Gulikit TT Max and ES Pro.

And I have to say, G7 Pro seems the most comfortable to me, followed Gamesir Super Nova and then by ES Pro and TT Max is the last in terms of comfort.

They made the TT Max slightly bigger and wider than ES Pro, and I have a feeling it has slightly different shape of the grip, might be due to those haptic motors they use instead of regular rumble.

Edit: if Gamesir ever releases Super Nova 2 with improved TMR sticks and lower latency, I'm grabbing it for sure.


yet_another_alt
And I have a feeling new Tarantula models could be better than both TT Max and Pro 3 from 8bitdo. Definitely in terms of quality, that's for sure.

That orange-colored variant looks great.

 

[BeardSpike]

That orange-colored variant looks great.

It's neat, something different.

But since it's a competitive edition, they removed rumble, just like Razer with that 8k model.

So I will probably just get Xbox one and call it a day.

 

[Soodanim]

Look what arrived today! 8bitdo 64 in retro colours.
Also with Ultimate 2 for comparison.

Haven't had a chance to use yet, but I will report back when I have. Amazon UK says its in pre-order phase until the end of March, so this isn't too bad.

 

[Durin]

Looks like GameSir has another G7 Pro 8K planned. Haven't really played any of the Nioh games, but I do like the designs they do for these souls-likes games, since I spent the extra for the older Wuchang version.

 

[BeardSpike]

Astray Durin
BennyBlanco

 

[Astray]

Astray Durin
BennyBlanco

Ooh that's honestly kinda sick

 

[analog_future]

As a stickler for premium materials, I've unfortunately found the vast majority of popular Chinese controllers to be shit in that regard. In regards to ergonomics/functionality/actual build quality many of them are great, but when it looks cheap and ugly on my desk, I just can't jive with it.

• GameSir - feels/looks cheap
• FlyDigi - not as cheap as GameSir, but feels/looks cheap
• BIGBIGWON - feels/looks exceptionally cheap
• Mobapad - feels/looks super cheap
• EasySMS - another cheap looking/feeling controller
• 8BitDo - now we're getting somewhere. Pretty solid
• Gulikit - not bad! similar to 8BitDo
• Nintendo - again, pretty solid. half step up from 8bitdo/Gulikit
• Microsoft - really good. materials feel nice
• Asus - really good. good feel and solid aesthetics
• Razer - excellent. premium looks and feel all around
• Sony - excellent. premium looks and feel all around

 

[BeardSpike]

Brook Wingman FGC Retro | PS2 & PS1 Controller Adapter for PS5, PS4, PC | Lag-Free for Arcade Sticks & Gamepads

Unleash your classic PS1 & PS2 controllers, arcade sticks, and gamepads on modern PS5, PS4, and PC systems. The Wingman FGC Retro delivers lag-free, tournament-grade performance for ALL games, not just fighters. Customize your play with powerful Turbo, Remap, and Macro functions via the Brook...

www.brookaccessory.com

If you have DualShock 1 and 2 laying around, you can now connect them to your PC or PS4 and PS5 with this new Brook converter.

Astray

Already mentioned:

Wingman P5 - Brook Gaming

Unlock your favorite controller on PS5! The Brook Wingman P5 converter enables wireless play with your Xbox, PS4, and Switch Pro controllers. Experience ultra-responsive gaming with full vibration & motion support. Discover ultimate cross-platform freedom!

www.brookaccessory.com

Let's you connect any controller to PS5.

Edit: Dropped it under notable posts. As I think this info should be in main post.

 

[BeardSpike]

Looks like GameSir has another G7 Pro 8K planned. Haven't really played any of the Nioh games, but I do like the designs they do for these souls-likes games, since I spent the extra for the older Wuchang version.

I'm thinking about buying all Nioh games since I really liked Rise of The Ronin. Katana Engine has it's shortcomings but I liked the parry feeling in RoTR the most so far- I think it was even better than Lies of P. Fingers crossed since it's another Team Ninja game and same Engine that parry system will be enjoyable.

I just might consider buying this version of G7 Pro and selling mine Xbox one, since the Aimlabs one didn't really capture my attention design wise and this one seems to look actually badass. Also it helps that I love any type of Ninja/Shinobi and Kung-fu content, since I was little I basically watched and played anything including Tenchu 1. But I think we all had our Ninja phase back in the day, lmao.

 

[WX3]

Grabbed the Wuchang G7 Pro a few weeks back and I am really liking this controller. I want to order the Zenless Zone Zero one for a backup and I don't even play that game, but I dig the design! From $99-$130 price range I do not think they can be beat. The only thing to see yet is the durability. Overall, pretty impressed.

 

[BeardSpike]

 

[Luipadre]

Anyone tried using the 3.5mm jack output for audio on the gamesir g7 pro? How strong is the DAC i wonder. For example the official xbox controller has a stronger dac than the ps controller, some of my headphones sounds better with the xbox one

 

[Durin]

Anyone tried using the 3.5mm jack output for audio on the gamesir g7 pro? How strong is the DAC i wonder. For example the official xbox controller has a stronger dac than the ps controller, some of my headphones sounds better with the xbox one

I have the Sennheiser HD 6XX headphones from massdrop, that are 300 ohm impedance headphones. It doesn't have enough amps to run them fully, but close enough to full volume, and the DAC cleans up the sound well enough.

Likely some dynamic audio tracks I'm losing a bit of detail, but it's better than other controllers I've tried before. Not sure I've tried against a modern Xbox controller to tell if it's as good or better though.

 

[BeardSpike]

Post from Deegital Tech

Information on upcoming Gamesir Products from their Official Discord Server: I. New Tarantula Competitive Edition (Wired, FPS-focused) Core specifications: 8...

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Deegital Tech compiled info about new Gamesir products from their Discord.

Supernova 2 and Cyclone 3 is coming.

New Tarantula now have increased polling rate, Orange competitive edition got bumped from 4000Hz to 8000Hz and Tegenaria wireless edition is coming with polling rate bumped from 1000Hz to 2000Hz with improved chip which is still confidential.
Soodanim

And then there's G7 Ultra coming, I'm curious how this compares to Pro.

Durin Astray

 

[Durin]

Post from Deegital Tech

Information on upcoming Gamesir Products from their Official Discord Server: I. New Tarantula Competitive Edition (Wired, FPS-focused) Core specifications: 8...

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Deegital Tech compiled info about new Gamesir products from their Discord.

Supernova 2 and Cyclone 3 is coming.

New Tarantula now have increased polling rate, Orange competitive edition got bumped from 4000Hz to 8000Hz and Tegenaria wireless edition is coming with polling rate bumped from 1000Hz to 2000Hz with improved chip which is still confidential.
Soodanim

And then there's G7 Ultra coming, I'm curious how this compares to Pro.

Durin Astray

Hopefully I don't get too much buyer's remorse.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

After how great the 7 pro was I'll buy the G7 ultra sight unseen. Was very impressed they turned out a line that was consistently good as the pro even across the variants.

 

[Astray]

And then there's G7 Ultra coming, I'm curious how this compares to Pro.

Durin Astray

Insane stuff but my wallet is hurting bad from 2025 lol.

That Machenike controller looks dope too!

 

[BeardSpike]

Insane stuff but my wallet is hurting bad from 2025 lol.

That Machenike controller looks dope too!

Yeah, but I'm just as sensitive to linearity as Monoru. And his review actually has touched upon the bad linearity those sticks have in F1 and I am pretty sure I won't like it. He couldn't even get rid of it through software, like I did with G7 Pro so I'm skipping F1.

I will also probably skip this G7 Pro Nioh 3 edition and go straight to either Super Nova 2 and new Tarantula or Cyclone 3, and I wanna see what that G7 Ultra will be.

 

[Astray]

Yeah, but I'm just as sensitive to linearity as Monoru. And his review actually has touched upon the bad linearity those sticks have in F1 and I am pretty sure I won't like it. He couldn't even get rid of it through software, like I did with G7 Pro so I'm skipping F1.

I will also probably skip this G7 Pro Nioh 3 edition and go straight to either Super Nova 2 and new Tarantula or Cyclone 3, and I wanna see what that G7 Ultra will be.

This is honestly one of the few things console controllers have over Chinese ones.. QA is much better when it comes to things like calibration linearity etc.

 

[cartman414]

Just got the Gulikit TT MAX. Enjoying it so far, but the disc d-pad I'm not so keen on. Wish it came with a cross d-pad.

 

[Durin]

Saw this today


Apparently GE-Proton now supports launching 8BitDo's controller/keyboard Windows app on Linux now. So if you want to update the firmware on your devices, you don't need to go to Windows or use a Windows virtual machine to do it. You can even rebind buttons/keys, and save profiles using it as well.

 

[Durin]

Looks like the newer GameSir G7 Pro 8K models are getting close to getting Steam Input support.

SDL (Simple DirectMedia Layer) integrates directly to support Steam's controller remapping and input processing, and they've had commits [github link] around supporting the G7 Pro 8K model

Also, a recent Steam Beta shows early binding support for the G7 Pro 8k:

The controller image is still generic, but you'll see the additional rear buttons of the G7 controller now visible to bind to things.

GameSir's Discord had people mentioning the older G7 Pro models were removed from code, likely because the HID is crippled because it doesn't have the right output, and might need a firmware update from GameSir before then to support dinput. Stuff's objectively happening though now, not just words or promises.

 

[calistan]

In case anyone's interested in flight sim controllers, I just got a new HOTAS grip - Virpil FLNKR. It feels super premium, the hat switches are rubber coated and the main hat in the middle has a rubber boot around it and has spring-loaded travel before it clicks down. The thumbstick is hall effect.

Compared to my older Virpil Constellation Alpha grip, it's slightly taller and thinner, and the top is much bigger, which makes it more of a stretch to reach the red button. The wrist rest is not as good as the Alpha's, it's a bit small. The stick is all metal, and feels much nicer in the hand. I got it with Russian labels, as I'd rather have it unreadable to me than have English labels showing functions I'm not using.

One downside it that when the flip-up trigger is raised, it protrudes so far that it bashes into the edge of my table mount when the stick is pushed fully forward. I've had to order a longer piece of mount to allow the stick to be used fully, but for now I can't use that trigger.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

In case anyone's interested in flight sim controllers, I just got a new HOTAS grip - Virpil FLNKR. It feels super premium, the hat switches are rubber coated and the main hat in the middle has a rubber boot around it and has spring-loaded travel before it clicks down. The thumbstick is hall effect.

Compared to my older Virpil Constellation Alpha grip, it's slightly taller and thinner, and the top is much bigger, which makes it more of a stretch to reach the red button. The wrist rest is not as good as the Alpha's, it's a bit small. The stick is all metal, and feels much nicer in the hand. I got it with Russian labels, as I'd rather have it unreadable to me than have English labels showing functions I'm not using.

One downside it that when the flip-up trigger is raised, it protrudes so far that it bashes into the edge of my table mount when the stick is pushed fully forward. I've had to order a longer piece of mount to allow the stick to be used fully, but for now I can't use that trigger.

The build quality on that looks amazing…I can feel the weight of it from the pictures alone!

 

[BeardSpike]

Durin Miyazaki’s Slave calistan

Post from Deegital Tech

Duuuuude, whaaaaat???🧐🤌

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Aviation controller.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Durin Miyazaki’s Slave calistan

Post from Deegital Tech

Duuuuude, whaaaaat???🧐🤌

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Aviation controller.

Woah…I'm not a flight sim player but that's unique enough to just add to the collection!

 

[Durin]

Durin Miyazaki’s Slave calistan

Post from Deegital Tech

Duuuuude, whaaaaat???🧐🤌

youtube.com

Aviation controller.

That's pretty neat. Probably the only good way to play Microsoft Flight Sim on the couch.

In case anyone's interested in flight sim controllers, I just got a new HOTAS grip - Virpil FLNKR. It feels super premium, the hat switches are rubber coated and the main hat in the middle has a rubber boot around it and has spring-loaded travel before it clicks down. The thumbstick is hall effect.

Compared to my older Virpil Constellation Alpha grip, it's slightly taller and thinner, and the top is much bigger, which makes it more of a stretch to reach the red button. The wrist rest is not as good as the Alpha's, it's a bit small. The stick is all metal, and feels much nicer in the hand. I got it with Russian labels, as I'd rather have it unreadable to me than have English labels showing functions I'm not using.

One downside it that when the flip-up trigger is raised, it protrudes so far that it bashes into the edge of my table mount when the stick is pushed fully forward. I've had to order a longer piece of mount to allow the stick to be used fully, but for now I can't use that trigger.

Now those also look sick. I got back into using flight sticks late last year, and ended up settling on a pair of VKB Gladiator NXT EVOs (left one the omni-throttle) last Christmas.

If I had more cash though, I would've gone for the Virpil Aeromax set. I love how much they use actual metal for the components, so you know that stuff will last forever (especially the gimbal). I'd go with the Russian Cyrillic letters too. Mega jealous

 

[calistan]

Now those also look sick. I got back into using flight sticks late last year, and ended up settling on a pair of VKB Gladiator NXT EVOs (left one the omni-throttle) last Christmas.

If I had more cash though, I would've gone for the Virpil Aeromax set. I love how much they use actual metal for the components, so you know that stuff will last forever (especially the gimbal). I'd go with the Russian Cyrillic letters too. Mega jealous

The Virpil stuff is really high quality, and the customer support is amazing. With this new grip, one of the triggers didn't work out of the box, but I filed a ticket and had somebody explain how to fix it via a hidden developer menu in less than 10 minutes. I'd definitely recommend them, even if it means saving for a while (everything is on backorder and takes a couple of months to arrive anyway).

 

[Durin]

The Virpil stuff is really high quality, and the customer support is amazing. With this new grip, one of the triggers didn't work out of the box, but I filed a ticket and had somebody explain how to fix it via a hidden developer menu in less than 10 minutes. I'd definitely recommend them, even if it means saving for a while (everything is on backorder and takes a couple of months to arrive anyway).

I've heard their customer support is good, and I also appreciate their stuff functions well on Linux as well.

If I end up getting more into space-sims, at some point I might upgrade to the Virpil models. I've liked the VKB models quite a bit for the price (got em 15% off too), and their customer support has been solid as well from my experience so far.

First thing I might look into next Christmas for myself is Virpil's R1 Legend or Falcon rudder pedals maybe though.

 

[calistan]

I've heard their customer support is good, and I also appreciate their stuff functions well on Linux as well.

If I end up getting more into space-sims, at some point I might upgrade to the Virpil models. I've liked the VKB models quite a bit for the price (got em 15% off too), and their customer support has been solid as well from my experience so far.

First thing I might look into next Christmas for myself is Virpil's R1 Legend or Falcon rudder pedals maybe though.

It's probably the best customer support experience I've ever had. I went from thinking my long-awaited order didn't work properly, to filing a ticket and getting the answer to my problem, all in a matter of minutes.

I mean, obviously my product didn't actually work properly when I received it, so there's an issue there, but it was basically a software problem and they solved it immediately. You pay for the privilege, but I don't think many other hardware manufacturers, niche or otherwise, are quite as on the ball.

 

[Durin]

It's probably the best customer support experience I've ever had. I went from thinking my long-awaited order didn't work properly, to filing a ticket and getting the answer to my problem, all in a matter of minutes.

I mean, obviously my product didn't actually work properly when I received it, so there's an issue there, but it was basically a software problem and they solved it immediately. You pay for the privilege, but I don't think many other hardware manufacturers, niche or otherwise, are quite as on the ball.

When I was looking around at devices, Virpil and VKB were the ones I heard brought up the most in the r/hotas subreddit when it comes to customer service, along with having individual replacement components for products.

I had a Thrustmaster Hotas One before to dip my toes back in, but I had heard the twisting mechanism could fail, and it would develop drift over time so I wanted something that would last longer.

 

[Soodanim]

Saw this today


Apparently GE-Proton now supports launching 8BitDo's controller/keyboard Windows app on Linux now. So if you want to update the firmware on your devices, you don't need to go to Windows or use a Windows virtual machine to do it. You can even rebind buttons/keys, and save profiles using it as well.

30 minutes ago my Ultimate 2 got stuck with rumble on, which persisted through power offs. Google/Reddit said I needed to update the firmware to fix. Ended up going into Windows to do it because the software/updater didn't work in Linux.

So I update the FW, and the bug is sorted. But while I'm searching for fixes I come across this github post that detailed getting Steam to recognise the controller, which I don't recall ever reading about before.

Back into Linux to try this cool new (to me) thing. I try it in D-Input mode, and sure enough it works. But LP/RP aren't recognised by Steam because the controller needs the buttons to be unmapped. Okay, back into Windows again to create a default profile so that Steam can recognise all 4 extra buttons.

Come to GAF to tell my story, and I see your post. Somehow I'd stopped seeing notifications for this thread (one must have slipped through) and I now know that this whole thing could have been FAR quicker if I had seen your post. Typical.

But it's good to know it's working, and I'll be trying this in a moment for future use.

Edit: tried updating my 64 controller in Linux and it didn't even start. Not quite free from Windows yet. Still need to share my thoughts on that controller.