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[Tak3n]

All kicking off today, Jeremy Corbyn sacked Hilary Benn last night for criticism he said about his leadership. At least half of the shadow cabinet will resign today...


Leadership challenge will definitely happen now

Shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn has been sacked from the shadow cabinet amid claims he was encouraging ministers to resign should Jeremy Corbyn ignore a vote of no confidence.
Labour's leader faces a vote of no confidence over claims he was "lacklustre" during the EU referendum.
A Labour source told the BBC Mr Corbyn had "lost confidence" in Mr Benn.
Mr Benn said there was "widespread concern" about Mr Corbyn's "leadership and his ability to win an election".
He added: "There is no confidence to win the next election if Jeremy continues as leader.
"In a phone call to Jeremy I told him I had lost confidence in his ability to lead the party and he dismissed me."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36632539

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Up to half of the shadow cabinet is set to resign in a bid to force Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to step down, the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg understands.
It follows the sacking of shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn overnight.
Mr Corbyn faces a vote of no confidence over claims he was "lacklustre" during the EU referendum.
A Labour source told the BBC Mr Corbyn had "lost confidence" in Mr Benn.

 

[Joel Was Right]

He should have sacked him months ago when he questioned his leadership. It's about time Corbyn actually surrounded himself with some of the people that support him. At least now he has only the Guardian and BBC to contend with.

 

[Izuna]

Corbyn is so dangerous...

 

[Tak3n]

First one has just resigned

 

[PJV3]

Corbyn is so dangerous...

Lol.

A threat to national security.

 

[Spinifex]

Cameron has just resigned and Labour is busy tearing itself apart. Looks like they've taken a page out of the Australian Labor Party's book.

 

[Hasney]

May as well quote what I said in another thread.

Yeah. Policy wise, he's who I would want but it's getting obvious that he unfortunately can't lead the party in the political climate and system we have.

Labour have got one hell of a problem come this general election as their voter base will be split. They have traditional voter blocks in the cities that will demand a stance on not leaving/going back to the EU, but outside of the cities up north, they're the ones who voted to leave.

Tories will have a similar problem sure, but not as large I don't think.

 

[Joel Was Right]

Will a leadership challenge involve a public vote?

 

[Tak3n]

Will a leadership challenge involve a public vote?

You have to be a member of the Labour Party....only cost £3 I believe. Then you can vote

 

[Jezbollah]

Will a leadership challenge involve a public vote?

No, Labour Members vote only.

And Heidi Alexander (Shadow Health Secretary) has just resigned.

 

[Hasney]

Will a leadership challenge involve a public vote?

I'm not sure if they'll keep the same rules as paying a few quid to be able to vote as a lot of members against Corbyn blame that for him being leader. If they do, I'll register and vote for whichever leader is on a platform of keeping us in or getting back closer to Europe.

I think before you had to be a member for a few months before voting?

 

[PJV3]

Will a leadership challenge involve a public vote?

Yes, the only way to defeat Corbyn if he stands is to have only 1 challenger. I don't think they can change the rules in time.

Public meaning anyone who pays 3 quid.

 

[Hasney]

Yes, the only way to defeat Corbyn if he stands is to have only 1 challenger. I don't think they can change the rules in time.

But it still wouldn't be public, it would be Labour members.

Edit: caught yo edit

 

[hidys]

Cameron has just resigned and Labour is busy tearing itself apart. Looks like they've taken a page out of the Australian Labor Party's book.

Unlike our bullshit this might actually have some justification.

 

[DSN2K]

We are looking at snap general election now doubt...two main party's leaders leave we have no choice really

 

[SprachBrooks]

Heidi is the same MP who tried to get Corbyn to criticise the junior doctors lol. Good riddance; they don't have the mandate to oust him and he'll just be voted back in.

 

[PJV3]

But it still wouldn't be public, it would be Labour members.

Edit: caught yo edit

Yeah sorry.

There's gonna be all sorts of games going on to influence the vote.

 

[gutter_trash]

Jeremy Corbyn should sack himself

 

[Jezbollah]

We are looking at snap general election now doubt...two main party's leaders leave we have no choice really

Not really. If Corbyn is still around at around October time then maybe. Labour are simply not united under JC. If Labour get a leader and succeeds in providing any resemblance unity then PM Boris wont call it.

 

[Joel Was Right]

1. They all resign.
2. Corbyn most likely wins the new contest considering the mandate he had last time.
3. He appoints a new Cabinet.
4. Labour Party united.

Then onto the General Election.

 

[Randomizer]

Don't know why Corbyn would have to resign like Cameron? Labour voters were far more likely to vote remain and I don't think any leavers would respect or listen to Corbyn anyway. So how is he in any way responsible?

 

[darkace]

Corbyn won't ever appeal to anybody but the true believers. He needs to go if the Labour party actually want to provide credible opposition.

 

[gutter_trash]

Don't know why Corbyn would have to resign like Cameron? Labour voters were far more likely to vote remain and I don't think any leavers would respect or listen to Corbyn anyway. So how is he in any way responsible?

and yet, historic Labour ridings in working class communities voted Leave

 

[Izuna]

Lol.

A threat to national security.

He can empower people to smash up Cereal restaurants again.

Move over labour, let the lib dems shine (I know this will never happen but eh).

 

[Joel Was Right]

Don't know why Corbyn would have to resign like Cameron? Labour voters were far more likely to vote remain and I don't think any leavers would respect or listen to Corbyn anyway. So how is he in any way responsible?

It's just another window of opportunity Labour MP's have found to throw mud at him, as if he is the cause of the Leave vote. They've been transparent in their wish to oust Corbyn for a year. The irony is that, as mentioned above, many Labour blocs voted Leave anyway, so if Corbyn appeared indifferent about the referendum then it was probably to his advantage to do so.

 

[show me your skeleton]

god damnit corbyn, you were the chosen one.

 

[Crispy75]

I'm not sure if they'll keep the same rules as paying a few quid to be able to vote as a lot of members against Corbyn blame that for him being leader. If they do, I'll register and vote for whichever leader is on a platform of keeping us in or getting back closer to Europe.

I think before you had to be a member for a few months before voting?

Corbyn would have won even without the three pounders, iirc.

 

[CelticKnight]

Night (and day) of the Long Knives.

Corbyn might've been able to get the benefit of the doubt from your average Labour MP, but the way he fucked up during the Remain campaign by sitting on his arse could've cost him what little sympathy most had for him.

I think he's shafted.

 

[PJV3]

Corbyn would have won even without the three pounders, iirc.

If the challenger is Kendall he will again.
They need someone strictly from the centre or it's going to be a humiliation.

 

[Hasney]

Don't know why Corbyn would have to resign like Cameron? Labour voters were far more likely to vote remain and I don't think any leavers would respect or listen to Corbyn anyway. So how is he in any way responsible?

and yet, historic Labour ridings in working class communities voted Leave

Yup. The city Labour voters do seem very staunchly remain, but outside of that and especially up north, there are a lot of areas for leave that vote Labour. Also, don't forget this:

Corbyn would have won even without the three pounders, iirc.

I know he had a lot of the unions backing him too, but I didn't realise it was enough.

I think the trade unions have a problem themselves as their last two endorsed leaders have bungled the public vote. Their influence isn't going to go away though.

 

[Randomizer]

and yet, historic Labour ridings in working class communities voted Leave

Depending on how wide spread such instances were that could be a legit reason, I guess. But to me it just says more about those people than Corbyn to be honest.

 

[CCS]

He should have sacked him months ago when he questioned his leadership. It's about time Corbyn actually surrounded himself with some of the people that support him. At least now he has only the Guardian and BBC to contend with.

I don't think there's enough MPs that support him to form a Cabinet.

 

[Jezbollah]

Today: Labour's own Red Wedding (Red Divorce?)

 

[Trojita]

I read that as Hillary, Bern

and was like wtf.

 

[Real Hero]

god damnit corbyn, you were the chosen one.

He was never given the chance, they have been undermining him and trying to get rid of him since day one, wether you like him or not thats just a fact

 

[Jezbollah]

1. They all resign.
2. Corbyn most likely wins the new contest considering the mandate he had last time.
3. He appoints a new Cabinet.
4. Labour Party united.

Then onto the General Election.

And the decimation of Labour and the rise of UKIP.

 

[gutter_trash]

Depending on how wide spread such instances were that could be a legit reason, I guess. But to me it just says more about those people than Corbyn to be honest.

if he couldn't reach out to them, then he is clearly the wrong person for the job

 

[Volotaire]

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Corbyn intends to replace resigners and press on

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[CCS]

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Doesn't really matter if he gets no confidenced.

Assuming that happens, the key question is whether he automatically gets back onto the ballot. His supporters believe he does, his opponents believe not.

 

[Hasney]

And the decimation of Labour and the rise of UKIP.

I do believe there is going to be a party that is the total opposite of UKIP and run as a one issue party as well because there's a lot of hurt from people that wanted to remain and they could pick up quite a few votes. The Lib Dems are trying, but due to their reputation, it might not work for them, but I don't think a weaker Labour will necisserilly coincide with a big rise for UKIP.

 

[Dambrosi]

and yet, historic Labour ridings in working class communities voted Leave

...because they wanted to give Cameron a kicking, to hell with the consequences.

I can understand the sentiment, but that selfish decision is biting everyone in the ass right now.

 

[SpideySenses]

Does anyone know who'll be the most likely candidate to challenge for the leadership? I can't really wrap my head around him still having support unless he's the best of a bad (as in unelectable) bunch.

 

[PJV3]

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AUSTERITY in the cabinet as they take on 3 jobs each.

I don't see people stepping up for jobs somehow.

 

[Hasney]

...because they wanted to give Cameron a kicking, to hell with the consequences.

I can understand the sentiment, but that selfish decision is biting everyone in the ass right now.

Seriously, that advert from Labour Leave about wiping the smile off of Cameron and Osbourne's faces just infuriates me. They made Farage beam, the absolute cunts.

 

[Tak3n]

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The plp will accept the challenge, so he is going to have to through a new leadership battle

 

[mehrmantrout]

If even half the stories are true about how stubborn he was with his (half hearted) remain campaign, he needs to go for that alone

 

[CCS]

Does anyone know who'll be the most likely candidate to challenge for the leadership? I can't really wrap my head around him still having support unless he's the best of a bad (as in unelectable) bunch.

There are better candidates (Dan Jarvis and Chuka Umunna spring to mind) but they both refused to run last time for personal reasons. If they could be convinced to run then we might be talking.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I wish there was any chance of him being elected as PM but there just isn't.

 

[Dambrosi]

Seriously, that advert from Labour Leave about wiping the smile off of Cameron and Osbourne's faces just infuriates me. They made Farage beam, the absolute cunts.

Labour Leave should be considered as traitors to the party and immediately purged.

 

[cyberheater]

It always seems my views are the polar opposite of majority when it comes to politics in the UK.

Anyway. I hope he goes and I hope he goes soon.
He has zero appeal as a leader and lacks leadership qualities.

I've been a staunch labour voter all of my life and I don't want to vote for him. Lots of my friends feel the same way.