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[BuddyC]

How dare you organize files by date modified instead of name. My comics are all out of order! How am I supposed to read them in class if they start with page 35, skip to page 23 and then over to 50?

edit: I was wrong, PSP organizes by date modified, not date created.

 

[KiNeSiS]

That sucks!
You can't re-organize them.
All that effort for nothing.

 

[lexi]

Can that be changed? I was actually looking forward to using the PSP for similar reasons.

 

[Suikoguy]

there has got to be a way.. date created is so.. backwards

 

[Unison]

For what it's worth, I can't read my comics on my DS either. :lol

 

[Amir0x]

PSP is screaming for a firmware update.

 

[kaching]

Log it in DCharlie's defect thread.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

There are no manual file sorting options? That really sucks for images.

"Hey, look at out vacation pictures!"
"This is at the beach... Here I am drinking a Pina Colada..."
"Here's my wife giving me hea... HEY! How'd that get in there??!"

 

[KiNeSiS]

There are no manual file sorting options? That really sucks for images.

"Hey, look at out vacation pictures!"
"This is at the beach... Here I am drinking a Pina Colada..."
"Here's my wife giving me hea... HEY! How'd that get in there??!"

:lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[chespace]

I read a TON of manga on the PSP.

And yeah, if the date is out of order, you're SOL... luckily, most of the scanslated stuff I read have their dates and times in order of page numbers but once in a while, certain scenes or cuts will seem particularly jarring and i'll discover over the course of time that I've skipped several pages. Very annoying.

PSP is awesome. But PSP really REALLY needs a firmware update. Who the fuck sorts by DATE AND TIME for media files?

Retarded.

 

[BuddyC]

There are no manual file sorting options? That really sucks for images.

"Hey, look at out vacation pictures!"
"This is at the beach... Here I am drinking a Pina Colada..."
"Here's my wife giving me hea... HEY! How'd that get in there??!"

You can sort them by folders, which makes it easy to prevent that, and really, it makes some sense to display them by date created if you're just showing photographs, but...

For what it's worth, I'd also like to see the firmware update increase the speed at which the PSP renders the image. It takes a good 2/3 seconds for the zoomed section of a picture to become crystal clear, and then if you move down a bit, it's another 2/3 seconds for that portion to become clear.

 

[KiNeSiS]

I read a TON of manga on the PSP.

And yeah, if the date is out of order, you're SOL... luckily, most of the scanslated stuff I read have their dates and times in order of page numbers but once in a while, certain scenes or cuts will seem particularly jarring and i'll discover over the course of time that I've skipped several pages. Very annoying.

PSP is awesome. But PSP really REALLY needs a firmware update. Who the fuck sorts by DATE AND TIME for media files?

Retarded.

It's time to hold out for psp until they revamp it a little.

 

[RevenantKioku]

You can sort them by folders, which makes it easy to prevent that, and really, it makes some sense to display them by date created if you're just showing photographs, but...

Unless you rename them, digi-cam photos are numbered in order, no?
You've failed me again Sony!

 

[chespace]

You can sort them by folders, which makes it easy to prevent that, and really, it makes some sense to display them by date created if you're just showing photographs, but...

For what it's worth, I'd also like to see the firmware update increase the speed at which the PSP renders the image. It takes a good 2/3 seconds for the zoomed section of an image to become crystal clear, and then if you move down a bit, it's another 2/3 seconds for that portion to become clear.

1). Sorting images by folders doesn't help the date/time sorting order, as I put all my manga in individual folders anyway.

2). I think the 2/3 second un-blurring process has more to do with the access speed of your memory stick than the firmware... although I could be completely off-base. If they could fix this problem first, I'd gladly live with a few out of order pages.

 

[BuddyC]

1). Sorting images by folders doesn't help the date/time sorting order, as I put all my manga in individual folders anyway.

No, but in DCB's scenario, sorting by folder would allow you to put different categories of pictures in different folders, thus making sure you don't display the wrong photo at the wrong time.

 

[explodet]

So they put in this functionality, they obviously test it, and they saw no problems in how files were sorted?
Incredible.

 

[Amir0x]

Where's Chittachong(sp)'s PSP "Quality Assurance" photo?

 

[RevenantKioku]

So they put in this functionality, they obviously test it, and they saw no problems in how files were sorted?
Incredible.

Don't worry, I'm sure its Nintendo's fault somehow.

 

[Arcticfox]

Doesn't copying a file in Windows change the creation date? If you copy the files from one folder to another before putting it on the PSP they might be ordered.

 

[Amir0x]

Doesn't copying a file in Windows change the creation date? If you copy the files from one folder to another before putting it on the PSP they might be ordered.

I think that just changes the "Last Date Modified", but I could be wrong.

 

[mr2mike]

well, wouldn't it be darn easy to just save the files on the mem stick with, say, a batch conversion in irfanview for example?, that way they'd be saved by page order, assuming they are named in page order when you highlight the entire folder for batch conversion...

It's an annoyance yess, but hardly dramatic... they sure should update that firmware though, make image sortable by [insert criteria here]

 

[DeEJaYMiND]

So they put in this functionality, they obviously test it, and they saw no problems in how files were sorted?
Incredible.

It's a Sony

 

[Arcticfox]

I think that just changes the "Last Date Modified", but I could be wrong.

I just copied a file and the properties of the file say it was just created. The creation date changes if you copy instead of cut since it is essentially creating a new file.

 

[kaching]

This is why I have hard time believing they had a firmware update ready that would add things like word processing and such when its clear that they should spend more time advancing the primary media capabilities of the device first.

It's in their best interest to make media playback from MemStick as convenient as possible if they want to entertain the possibility selling content to PSP owners via SonyConnect.

 

[Amir0x]

I just tried it. If you copy instead of cut it is essentially creating a new file so the creation date changes.

Well I guess this temporarily solves that problem.

 

[chespace]

I just tried it. If you copy instead of cut it is essentially creating a new file so the creation date changes.

Nice one. Thanks!

 

[Arcticfox]

I don't know what the PSP sorts by if the times are exactly the same though. It would make sense if two files were created at the same time the PSP would then go by the file name, but then again it would make sense to sort by file name in the first place

 

[BuddyC]

I just copied a file and the properties of the file say it was just created. The creation date changes if you copy instead of cut since it is essentially creating a new file.

I'll give that a shot when I get home. Thanks!

 

[Project Midway]

This is why I have hard time believing they had a firmware update ready that would add things like word processing and such when its clear that they should spend more time advancing the primary media capabilities of the device first.

They can have different software paths, or increments. They launched with lets say software increment B with some bugs and several apps missing, but at the same time Sony has been developing increment D which has bug fixes and added functionality. For example Sony could have specified two years ago that they launch with increment B and then release increment D few months after the launch. Its all about software build schedules...

Of course I'm only guessing and speculating, but its certainly possible that next firmware update has lots of a new stuff. Maybe Sony just wanted/were forced to launch with smaller software package so the launch software would be more stable and ready on schedule.

 

[mr2mike]

But I dont think yo ucan make 2 files at the same time, one file will invariably be written before another

System time is probably a lot more precise than just hours:minutes:seconds... so I dont think it'd be a problem if files are created in a really rapid succession, like when copiying lots of images.

 

[kaching]

I appreciate all that, PM. But, in terms of scheduling, I'd think they'd want to put emphasis on the primary functions of the device FIRST and probably for at least a good amount of time after launch, rather than shift focus to possible uses that it isn't even really equipped to do justice to without a peripheral (keyboard).

 

[DaCocoBrova]

For what it's worth, I'd also like to see the firmware update increase the speed at which the PSP renders the image.

That is major IMO. I'd really like to see that resolved, but I'm sure the problem is there due to a technical retraint. Is the bus that slow from removeable media to PSP?

 

[BuddyC]

Is the bus that slow from removeable media to PSP?

I don't know, but there's no reason I'm aware of that the PSP can't throw the entire picture into memory and preload the next image or two while viewing the current image. There might be a brief inital load for this, but unless you rapidly skip pictures, there shouldn't be any more noticable access times.

Of course, they may have just opted to exclude this in favor of increasing battery life, as loading two or three images takes more power than loading one on demand.

 

[Haibane]

I think the ordering the files by date is actually an effect of the file system rather than a specifically coded feature of the PSP. I know some early MP3 players did the same thing.
Basically, FAT stores the file records by date, and if you want another order you have to create another layer of top.

 

[mrklaw]

how big are your pics? I'm finding I can flick between images with the shoulder buttons quickly, and the initial image is pretty good quality until it gets properly rendered.

However, if you are zooming into a big scan and then moving round with the analog nub, then it is a bit slow to render the bits that were off screen, but then its hardly the main use for pics (which is surely a simple slideshow). You're being a bit harsh if thats your problem.

 

[BuddyC]

Damnit, I was wrong. PSP organizes by date modified, not date created, and copying a file doesn't change the date it was last modified. Any ideas?

I'll get you those details later mrklaw, I'm already late for work.

 

[Arcticfox]

I used to use this little program to make changes to the date modified of several files at a time.

 

[Miburou]

I just open each pic in MS Paint, save it, and quit, to change the 'modified' date.

 

[monkeyrun]

Sony has some crappy software programmers.

their VAIO specific software sucks too.

 

[BuddyC]

I used to use this little program to make changes to the date modified of several files at a time.

I just wanted to let you know that you're my hero.

 

[Deg]

Half arsed as expected.

 

[BuddyC]

mrklaw:

The pictures range in size, averaging between 200 and 500 KB with a resolution of 1024 x 1611. I use View Mode to fill the screen, which means I can see about a third of the image at a given time. I understand that it's meant to be a slideshow and little else, but I don't see why it would be so hard to put that 200-500 KB in memory and render it all in advance. It may be in a future firmware update, it may not, but it's something I'd like to see improved, if possible.

 

[BuddyC]

 

[mrklaw]

Just checked on mine. Some I have at about 1600x1200, and it only seems to render whats on the screen. If you scroll it, the previously hidden bits are only shown at lower res until the memory card reads the correct bit.

I must say though, that the image was still perfectly viewable even at the lower res. Maybe its worth trying with different resolutions? Perversely it might be good to try a higher resolution?

Its actually quite a difficult technical thing to do, reading just a segment of a zoomed in JPG, without reading the whole file again.

 

[Priz]

I used to use this little program to make changes to the date modified of several files at a time.

Yeah, I've been reading the thread and thought "isn't there some windows port of the unix command 'touch' they could use to accomplish this?"

 

[iapetus]

Yeah, I've been reading the thread and thought "isn't there some windows port of the unix command 'touch' they could use to accomplish this?"

That's what Cygwin's there for.

 

[BuddyC]

I must say though, that the image was still perfectly viewable even at the lower res. Maybe its worth trying with different resolutions? Perversely it might be good to try a higher resolution?

See, the problem is that while the picture may be perfectly viewable, the text (of a comic) isn't legible until that section is redrawn. Here, toss this on your PSP to see what I mean.

I don't want to give the impression that it's a major flaw thay renders the PSP useless for picture viewing. Rather, this is just a minor annoyance that will only affect a small percentage of PSP owners.

 

[Amir0x]

This is going to be the most awesome thing ever for viewing comics. I'm going to throw all of DEMO onto my memory stick as I haven't read anything but issue one from that series yet. Oh boy oh boy.

 

[mrklaw]

Yeah, I see your point. Its not so obvious on photos of people etc, as you don't need the detail immediately. Its surprising how little detail is rendered.

So yes, it would be nice if it rendered the bit you are looking at, then did the rest in the background. Maybe you'd have to wait a few seconds, but at least you could scroll easily.

Plenty of ram for it too.

 

[chespace]

I just copied a file and the properties of the file say it was just created. The creation date changes if you copy instead of cut since it is essentially creating a new file.

Wait, how does this work again? Do I have to "copy" the files over to my PSP? Or copy them from a folder on my PC to another folder?

I just tried copying a bunch of images to another folder on my PC and the creation date didn't change...