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Curt Schilling claims he lost Hall of Fame votes because he's a Republican

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XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/curt-schilling-i-lost-hall-of-fame-votes-because-im-republican/

Former Boston Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling said his exclusion from the Hall of Fame may have something to do with politics.

"I know that as a Republican that there's some people who really don't like that," Schilling told Boston radio station WEEI. "I don't think it... kept me out, but I do know that there are guys who will probably never vote for me because of the things I said or did. That's the way it works."


The outspoken baseball star has for years played an active role in politics. He campaigned for George W. Bush in 2004, endorsing the Republican president's re-election campaign on "Good Morning America" just hours after helping his team win the World Series.

Asked on WEEI whether he'd might be in the Hall of Fame had he endorsed Kerry, Schilling said, "absolutely."

"When human beings do something, anything, there's bias and prejudice," he said.

Schilling pointed out that 9 percent of voters did not vote for one of this year's Hall of Fame inductee, Pedro Martinez. "There's something wrong with the process and some of the the people in the process when that happens," he said.

Along with Martinez, Randy Johnson, John Smoltz and Craig Biggio were also elected into the Hall of Fame this year. Schilling appeared on 39.2 percent of the ballots.

As sports writer Ben Shapiro reports, Smoltz has also endorsed Republicans running for office.

Along with campaigning for Mr. Bush, Schilling also endorsed John McCain in the 2008 presidential election and was considered a potential GOP Senate candidate in 2009, after the death of Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts.
 

HiResDes

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Lol, I'm a big fan of his work in the playoffs, but he can screw right the fuck off with that bullshit. I'd be more inclined to vote for Pete Rose, probably my favorite player of all time. Oh and Barry Bonds would have been a first ballot hall of famer before the steroids and home run records. Schilling isn't exactly the most talented guy left off.
 
Edit: Nevermind, I can't read.

an MLB player whose a Republican????

Truly unheard of stuff.

First thing I thought too, I thought a lot of baseball players, and professional sports players in general leaned towards being either conservative or just not caring about politics.

Shouldn't matter anyway, Schilling's a shithead but if he was a good enough athlete to be inducted that's all that should matter.
 
He should be in the hall of fame, and he will be, and his politics should have nothing to do with when it happens.

Though, now that he has called voters out on his perception of why he isn't in, he may have just cost himself some votes in the years ahead.
 

Joe

Member
I've said it before and I'll say it again: curt schilling is trying to become the first player to talk himself into the hall of fame.

if curt gets in then moose has to as well, and if moose gets in then matttingly should too. then we can change the name to the hall of very, very good.
 
Piazza lost votes because one time someone saw pimples on his back. When it comes to having a gripe over voters being stupid, get in line Curt.
 

MattyG

Banned
It's not that he's republican, it's that he's as far right as they come. I added him as a friend on FB quite a few years ago, because I was a fan, but his political posts over the last year got me to hide all his stuff. He seems like a good person, but he's one of those people that just turns obnoxious when politics are involved.

He doesn't sound too upset about it though. He knows that any type of voting like this is going to take stuff like political standing into account. At least he's not pitching a fit about it.
 

Einbroch

Banned
Maybe it was because he ran a company to the ground, costing taxpayers millions and hundreds of people their jobs.
 
Schilling deserves to go into the Hall, regardless of his political views. That's just horse shit if it's true.

He was a great pitcher, and also brought us a fantastic RPG in Amalur.
 
Smoltzy's a pretty conservative guy and it wasnt an issue for him. Maybe it's because he swindled RI and ruined a perfectly good pair of socks.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
and also brought us a fantastic RPG in Amalur.

You really should read this piece on how badly that game company was run and how a lot of the employees were treated:

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/2012/07/38-studios-end-game/

Brett Close, who joined 38 Studios as president in 2007 and soon after became its first CEO, put Schilling’s inexperience into perspective for the study’s authors, Noam Wasserman, Jeffrey Bussgang, and Rachel Gordon. “He really needed Company 101,” Close told them. “For example, the whole concept of vacation was foreign to Curt. He actually said, ‘People get weekends off, right?'” Schilling at one point suggested that people work 14 straight days and then take five days off. It jibed with his baseball experience.

The CEO also tried to rein in Schilling’s spending, doing away with ideas for company cars and cell phones. But Schilling was adamant about the rest of the perks. According to the case study, between fiscal years 2007 and 2008, the company spent more than $705,000 on “travel and entertainment,” a sum Scherlis, the former Turbine CEO, calls “wildly high.”

“It never had the culture of a startup,” says one former employee. “The message was being sent…that there was plenty of money.”

On May 24, the entire 38 Studios staff was laid off via e-mail. They hadn’t been paid since the end of the previous month, but their problems were just beginning. In short order, their healthcare disappeared and their 401(k)s were frozen. Then, MoveTrek Mobility — a company 38 Studios hired during the relocation to Providence to buy and resell employees’ Massachusetts homes — notified seven people that, because it had not yet sold their houses, they were potentially responsible for their old mortgages. And Atlas Van Lines alerted some individuals that they were on the hook for bills that management hadn’t paid.

Thom Ang is one of those people suddenly stuck with his old mortgage. With two young kids, no salary, rent due on his Rhode Island home, and now a mortgage in Massachusetts to pay, he’s afraid his credit is about to be ruined. “I wasn’t even aware that this could or would happen,” he says, “and then having it affect where I could possibly live and where I could possibly work?”
 
His percentage is so low that I have a hard time believing it's strictly the right wing stuff keeping him out. He doesn't have the traditional big numbers (300 wins, cy youngs) that other guys have and that lazy voters use. He does have a gripe considering Smoltz just got in, and next year Trevor Fucking Hoffman will likely get more votes than Schilling in his first year on the ballot.
 

Casimir

Unconfirmed Member
Come on Curt, it's because you're Christian. That's why the liberals won't let you into their club.
 

Opiate

Member
Come on Curt, it's because you're Christian. That's why the liberals won't let you into their club.

I know you're joking, but Schilling would first have to establish that the HoF voters are predominantly liberal, and so significantly so that they wouldn't vote for a guy who was "against them."

I mean, surely we can agree there are a good number of old, conservative fogies who still have HoF ballots.
 

kess

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Schilling wasn't really putting up amazing numbers until he hit 30. Don't know if his quarrelsome persona really helped with the writers but he wasn't the only one who wanted out of Philadelphia in the late 90s (J.D. Drew, Scott Rolen). Randy Johnson was also a late developer, but he had arguably more commanding numbers.
 

terrisus

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Schilling
Win–loss record 216–146
Earned run average 3.46
Strikeouts 3,116

Pedro
Win–loss record 219–100
Earned run average 2.93
Strikeouts 3,154

No offense meant, but, it's sad that this is about as deep as most Hall of Fame voters go with statistics.
 

Dragon

Banned

It's Tom Penny. He's fishing for attention.

I think that's what got him in more than anything else. He had two fucking amazing years during the steroid era. He was untouchable

Using counting stats to differentiate the two and ERA is kinda silly. Schilling primarily pitched in the NL, he got to face the pitcher, something Pedro only did at the beginning and end of his career. Also Schilling's K/9 is much much lower than Pedro's (8.6 vs. 10.04). He just wasn't as dominant a pitcher as Pedro. 99-2003 were five years that Pedro was almost untouchable and Schilling has never had one year quite like ANY of those. Schilling's highs were never as good as Pedro's.
 

Sanjuro

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Smoltzy's a pretty conservative guy and it wasnt an issue for him. Maybe it's because he swindled RI and ruined a perfectly good pair of socks.

Schilling is guilty of having no business skills. Swindling Rhode Island? They are entirely responsible.
 

Laekon

Member
Yeah cause there are a lot of liberal biased sports writers. I hate how they always talk about marriage equality after going over their MVP predictions. I think he said this crap to get some air time on Fox News. He probably already has a special planned with Hannity.
 

akira28

Member
dude's name was schilling, trusting him with your millions was your own damn gamble.

I'm not giving Tom Penny or Jognny Dime anything.
 

DMczaf

Member
Piazza lost votes because one time someone saw pimples on his back. When it comes to having a gripe over voters being stupid, get in line Curt.

Who gives a fuck about these Juicers and Republicans, next year is The Kid's year! ;_; My childhood finally goes into the HOF.

Let us all play Ken Griffey Jr SNES and N64 games in remembrance.
 
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