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[Edwardo]

I'd take Curt in any playoff game back when he was here, but I'm not putting him down as the best pitcher in the league at any time.

 

[teruterubozu]

I have a Schilling-signed baseball collecting dust. Ain't worth shit cuz he's such a dick and nobody wants it.

 

[JinjoUnchained]

He definitely deserves credit for that but it's also at the end of the day a small sample size. To me that wouldn't put him on the level of someone who has had an entire HoF worthy career. I mean, would you argue that to this point Madison Bumgarner has had as good of a career as Clayton Kershaw?

It's enough to put him over the top, but not on its' own. Difference between Schilling and the other Hall of Very Good guys is his postseason resume. Mussina was pretty good in the postseason and never won a World Series. Schilling was a historically great postseason performer over a long period of time. It's not enough of it's own, but I'd say it's a tiebreaker.

And not to sound like a Dodger homer here, but Bumgarner has the benefit of an actual bullpen, as opposed to Kershaw and Greinke who were expected to throw 110+ pitches every time out, even on short rest. Put Kershaw on the Giants (hypothetically, please don't actually do that!) and he'd have a much better postseason output. I'd make the same argument with Bumgarner as Schilling, though: if he's good enough over his career to make the Hall of Very Good then his postseason resume should put him over the top into the HOF. Not before someone like Kershaw, but eventually.

 

[Edwardo]

I have a Schilling-signed baseball collecting dust. Ain't worth shit cuz he's such a dick and nobody wants it.

I mean I can take it off your hands if you want

 

[matthewwhatever]

I know you're joking, but Schilling would first have to establish that the HoF voters are predominantly liberal, and so significantly so that they wouldn't vote for a guy who was "against them."

I mean, surely we can agree there are a good number of old, conservative fogies who still have HoF ballots.

I think "old, conservativ fogey" probably describes the vast majority of HoF voters.

It wouldn't surprise me seeing how Republicans get talked about on here

I'd be very surprised if there was any overlap at all between "GAF member" and "HoF voter".

 

[terrisus]

Schilling didn't get in because he's not yet good enough to get in.

"He's not yet good enough to get in?"
What?
Is he going to un-retire and pitch a couple more seasons or something?

He's actually related to the President.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

It's enough to put him over the top, but not on its' own. Difference between Schilling and the other Hall of Very Good guys is his postseason resume. Mussina was pretty good in the postseason and never won a World Series. Schilling was a historically great postseason performer over a long period of time. It's not enough of it's own, but I'd say it's a tiebreaker.

And not to sound like a Dodger homer here, but Bumgarner has the benefit of an actual bullpen, as opposed to Kershaw and Greinke who were expected to throw 110+ pitches every time out, even on short rest. Put Kershaw on the Giants (hypothetically, please don't actually do that!) and he'd have a much better postseason output. I'd make the same argument with Bumgarner as Schilling, though: if he's good enough over his career to make the Hall of Very Good then his postseason resume should put him over the top into the HOF. Not before someone like Kershaw, but eventually.

Agree 100%. I think it can be a deciding factor when two guys are very close in careers.

 

[terrisus]

I'd be very surprised if there was any overlap at all between "GAF member" and "HoF voter".

But there is an overlap between "GAF member" and "Curt Schilling"

In fact, [Curt Schilling] -> [GAF Members] is an injection.

Spoiler

Pun purely by coincidence >.>

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

Maybe the fact you essentially stole state money for your terrible fucking video game that sold like 10 copies?

Seriously, KoA Reckoning wasn't that bad, but Skyrim just annihilated it.

 

[Dragon]

"He's not yet good enough to get in?"
What?
Is he going to un-retire and pitch a couple more seasons or something?

It's almost like the HOF can change the standard they have for pitchers based on era or something...

 

[Dragon]

Stupid thing for him to say, but Curt Schilling is absolutely a hall of famer in my book.

He'll get there

Kristen Stewart is really good. I enjoyed her in Adventureland when she was high and played herself.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Kristen Stewart is really good. I enjoyed her in Adventureland when she was high and played herself.

Still not enough to break her into the Hall, sorry!

 

[Dude Abides]

His politics were also why Kingdoms of Amalur flopped, I bet.

 

[Walter White Walker]

Schilling says some stupid shit. This is one of those times.

 

[Amory]

Kristen Stewart is really good. I enjoyed her in Adventureland when she was high and played herself.

Agreed. My favorite movie of hers

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Maybe the fact you essentially stole state money for your terrible fucking video game that sold like 10 copies?

Seriously, KoA Reckoning wasn't that bad, but Skyrim just annihilated it.

A majority of the people that vote for the hall of fame likely have no idea what a video game is outside if pong or ms. PacMan. I very much doubt his failed business endeavor has anything to do with his hall of fame candidacy.

 

[terrisus]

Maybe the fact you essentially stole state money for your terrible fucking video game that sold like 10 copies?

Seriously, KoA Reckoning wasn't that bad, but Skyrim just annihilated it.

A majority of the people that vote for the hall of fame likely have no idea what a video game is outside if pong or ms. PacMan. I very much doubt his failed business endeavor has anything to do with his hall of fame candidacy.

And especially not how its quality compares to Skyrim.

"Yeah, I was thinking about voting for Schilling... But, darn, I would much rather play Skyrim than Kingdoms of Amalur, so to heck with him!"

"Kingdoms of Amalur? 3/10, would not vote for Hall of Fame."

 

[The Wraith]

Who gives a fuck about these Juicers and Republicans, next year is The Kid's year! ;_; My childhood finally goes into the HOF.

Let us all play Ken Griffey Jr SNES and N64 games in remembrance.

And you know Griffey Jr. didn't take any PED's how?

 

[ampere]

And not to sound like a Dodger homer here, but Bumgarner has the benefit of an actual bullpen, as opposed to Kershaw and Greinke who were expected to throw 110+ pitches every time out, even on short rest. Put Kershaw on the Giants (hypothetically, please don't actually do that!) and he'd have a much better postseason output. I'd make the same argument with Bumgarner as Schilling, though: if he's good enough over his career to make the Hall of Very Good then his postseason resume should put him over the top into the HOF. Not before someone like Kershaw, but eventually.

Yeah it looked like Kershaw was just left in playoff games too long last year. The guys don't always know when they need to come out, the manager needs to be good at making that call and having a reliever.

Agree 100%. I think it can be a deciding factor when two guys are very close in careers.

There's also run support, right? I don't think the win/loss, ERA, and strikeout stats are enough to show that picture, unless it is factored in somehow I'm not aware of. For example Smoltz should have 1 or 2 more titles if the Braves had better run support in the 90s.

 

[cbrun44]

And you know Griffey Jr. didn't take any PED's how?

Griffey was as skinny as a rail and was injured constantly for the last half of his career. Pretty obvious in his case he did not take PED's...

 

[Enron]

GRIFFEY USED

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Griffey was as skinny as a rail and was injured constantly for the last half of his career. Pretty obvious in his case he did not take PED's...

If there is anything baseball fans should have learned in the last 10 years it's that there is no "pretty obvious" when it comes to who did and didn't take PEDs.

 

[rjc571]

Smoltz once compared gay marriage to beastiality, while Schilling later came out in support of homosexual athletes. Maybe Schilling didn't get in because he's not conservative enough.

 

[see5harp]

Griffey was as skinny as a rail and was injured constantly for the last half of his career. Pretty obvious in his case he did not take PED's...

Some of the shittiest minor league players who never make the majors use PED's.