Komatsu
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Performance mostly - this is my third playthrough of the game so the lower population density does not bother me much
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CYBERPUNK 2077 |OT2| The Last Samurai [>56K Warning_]
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Performance mostly - this is my third playthrough of the game so the lower population density does not bother me much
Vexelstrom is my favourite, there are two songs at very least I want to have in my own car, I think the soundtrack is awesome for the most part.
I just found a legendary cyberpsycho quickhack playing at level 24 and admitedly level 50 street cred (not sure that makes a difference.) Had another legendary one show up but I cant say exactly where I got them. I was raoming the outer edgs of the map all the way south near the border corssing and doing "you never knwo whet you might find" and blue club police gigs just to get them off the map. I think it has a lot to do with what you level and the skill bonuses I got from the intelligence tree. Im 15 INT right now. You should be good to go as long as you have patience to do a tonne of smaller side quests and loot them instead of craft them...the craft skill tree seems terrible to me. Especially not being abel to save mods until the last few parts of the game...why bother?...no NG+ to boot.
As soon as Judy started texting about pizza etc, before I even amnswered her I saw one from Meredith, I avoid cheating by going straight to meredith and getting her out of my system early before the Judy fling even developed. As a side note there was an abandoned apartment building near that sleazy motel that had no story or quest markers nearby with average loot in it, but was completely dark inside..coudlnt see worht a crap. Still was intrigued to look around inside and keep wondering if I missed something.
Pretty sure that when you slow motion yourself that its the opposite for your enemies, so yes, I think you can....there are several ways to do it in game. Cyber deck isnt the only way to slow time so you dont have to compromise quick hacks...but you wont zip around the map...your view will be slow. Unfortunatley you see things as NEO did , not as a bystander. lol.
I tried over and over at the time I acquired it and couldnt get it to work so it is still in my inventory...is there still a way to get the eddie?
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UncleMeat
Member
Finished my 3rd playthrough tonight, probably do it again when the next gen and (hopefully) ng+ update happen. Did street kid, then Nomad, then corpo chick. I think my favorite playstyle is using a sandevistan cyberdeck with revolvers, the headshots are just so tasty. And then throw in some blades to mix it up since it levels up with reflexes as well.
My opinion of the endings ranked:
Man, I love this game. Can't wait for dlc/mutliplayer.
My opinion of the endings ranked:
1. Johnny/Rogue have fun storming the castle; then letting V take the body back. To me this is the most canon option. Just feels right that Johnny should get his revenge. And V going out raiding the space casino feels like Johnny rubbing off on him.
2. The Panam mega happy ending. This was my nomad game so it was nice to return to nomad but I think street kid or corpo chick saying "fuck it" and going nomad would work nicely too. Did this on my second playthrough even though I had hoped to ride off into the sunset with Panam the first time but I was worried she might get killed so that's why I went Johnny/Rogue the first time. Anyway, easily the happiest ending.
3. Hanako deal ending. The mission was cool but the fact that you basically stab Johnny in the back and erase him feels pretty bad. In the other two endings he at least gets to live in cyberspace with Alt. It fit with my corpo playthrough and was still interesting just felt bad about it.
I haven't done the let Johnny takeover or the suicide missions, I might check them out with the point of no return saves later.
2. The Panam mega happy ending. This was my nomad game so it was nice to return to nomad but I think street kid or corpo chick saying "fuck it" and going nomad would work nicely too. Did this on my second playthrough even though I had hoped to ride off into the sunset with Panam the first time but I was worried she might get killed so that's why I went Johnny/Rogue the first time. Anyway, easily the happiest ending.
3. Hanako deal ending. The mission was cool but the fact that you basically stab Johnny in the back and erase him feels pretty bad. In the other two endings he at least gets to live in cyberspace with Alt. It fit with my corpo playthrough and was still interesting just felt bad about it.
I haven't done the let Johnny takeover or the suicide missions, I might check them out with the point of no return saves later.
Man, I love this game. Can't wait for dlc/mutliplayer.
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Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
I technically carry rare HMG (btw, I think there is only one type of that weapon in game lol) and should be using it, but with shotgun and slow-mo I wipe the floor much faster.
Also don’t know why slow mo triggers multiple times sine the CD on the implant is 60sec.
Also don’t know why slow mo triggers multiple times sine the CD on the implant is 60sec.
regawdless
Banned
I'm at level 17, but pretty early in the story. Doing so much side stuff all over the game world, sightseeing and just blasting thugs everywhere.
Normal difficulty was way to easy, so I'm playing on hard now.
Doing a Cold Blooded Gunslinger build, I put most points into headshot damage and offense so far. Upgraded my pistol a lot already. Easily dropping most foes with one headshot.
But my defense is lacking, making me die pretty quickly. So I really have to stay on my toes. Which is a lot of fun actually.
Normal difficulty was way to easy, so I'm playing on hard now.
Doing a Cold Blooded Gunslinger build, I put most points into headshot damage and offense so far. Upgraded my pistol a lot already. Easily dropping most foes with one headshot.
But my defense is lacking, making me die pretty quickly. So I really have to stay on my toes. Which is a lot of fun actually.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
What are the two main attributes for non-stealth melee build? I’m thinking Tech for armour and Body for damage increase.
Komatsu
Member
Yeah, mainly body. But for the first 15 levels or so you'll be a glass cannon - massively lethal but easy to kill
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Do characters in this game care if you cheat?
Is there anything in reflex? Tech is ok but you also may want to craft a bit in order to get hacks to put on your berserk card etc. There may be a couple useful int and cool perks that go with melee as well ...the tree is a tangled mess and sucks you into getting points in all areas.
I thinking Judy wont find out if my V bangs River but I dont want it to wreck the ending...my character loves everyone. LOL. If anyone knows for sure though Im all ears...no spoilers though.
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Hugare
Gold Member
Fuck it, I bought an SSD to put on my PS4 mainly due to this game.
The pop in is the only thing REALLY bothering me. Couldnt care less about performance. But things poping up 20 seconds later looks really bad, and sometimes break the game
Like, I was racing with Claire, 1st place, but the game couldnt load the GPS on time (lol), so I crashed.
Saw a lot of videos on Youtube before buying it, and it seems to really improve it.
Will be a huge jump from my 5400 rpm HDD.
Spent $400 bucks of local currency (brazilian reais) because of this motherfuker
Worth it
The pop in is the only thing REALLY bothering me. Couldnt care less about performance. But things poping up 20 seconds later looks really bad, and sometimes break the game
Like, I was racing with Claire, 1st place, but the game couldnt load the GPS on time (lol), so I crashed.
Saw a lot of videos on Youtube before buying it, and it seems to really improve it.
Will be a huge jump from my 5400 rpm HDD.
Spent $400 bucks of local currency (brazilian reais) because of this motherfuker
Worth it
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nightmare-slain
Gold Member
you do know that PS4 doesn't make use of SSD's, right?
a SATA3 SSD, which is ancient, should be significantly faster than a spinning drive. at least it is on a PC but in a PS4 you'll hardly see any improvement over even a 7200RPM drive. the PS4 just doesn't support it and even if it did it won't do much to change the way a game is coded. the PS4 version of the game is designed with spinning drives in mind so sticking an SSD in there isn't gonna do anything even if the PS4 supported those drives.
on PC (and eventually the PS5/XSX versions) the game is designed for SSDs with SATA 3 being the minimum and assuming you have an NVME for higher settings. SATA3 SSDS max out at ~550MB/s. most people on PC now will have an NVME drive which is what PS5/XSX use. Those drives can be anywhere between 2.4GB/s - 7GB/s. significantly faster than any 2.5" SATA3 drive lol.
so yeah i'd say that $400 was not worth it. you just wasted your money! better have saved it towards a PS5.
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OmegaSpear
Member
I've had the problem where it doesn't load the roads on time during races, causing me to crash into invisible walls.
Has anyone else had the problem where Regina doesn't give you anything after killing all the cyberpsycho's? Also what level where you guys when dealing with the cyberpsycho's? When I started killing them I was lvl 33 and still had problems with 3 of them. Had to cheese it by using double jump onto a roof and sniping them. Could only get 2 hits before I died even with armadillo mod.
Komatsu
Member
The PS4 stock HDD is 5400RPM and even though asset streaming in the console's graphics pipeline was not designed with solid state memory in mind and the machine only has a SATA ii interface, an SSD will still improve loading times, even if not always dramatically.
PS4 storage has a nice comparison table on their webiste:
| Game Title/Loading Time (Seconds) | PS4 500GB Stock Drive | OCZ Trion 100 480GB |
|---|---|---|
| Bloodborne – Central Yharnam | 30.8 | 16.9 |
| Bloodborne – Great Bridge | 26.1 | 15.0 |
| Bloodborne – Old Yharnam Respawn | 30.7 | 15.4 |
| Bloodborne – Return to Hunter’s Dream | 10.7 | 7.4 |
| Fallout 4 – Vault 111 | 31.7 | 17.4 |
| Fallout 4 – Exiting Vault 111 | 25.7 | 17.2 |
| Fallout 4 – Concord Town | 55.5 | 29.1 |
| Fallout 4 – Diamond City | 49.0 | 28.6 |
| Just Cause 3 – New Game | 69.9 | 43.8 |
| Just Cause 3 – First Mission Respawn | 28.9 | 21.1 |
| Just Cause 3 – Baia | 65.6 | 43.7 |
| Just Cause 3 – Baia Respawn | 23.4 | 16.2 |
A 14 second difference in heavy hub areas in games like Bloodborne is something even a casual observer would notice immediately.
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Hugare
Gold Member
I'll be sticking it on the USB 3.0 port, so it wont be as slow as using it internally on SATA II (also wont be as fast as SATA 3, but thats ok)
As you can see in this video, it REALLY helps with popin
Also this one:
I dont expect PC or PS5 performance, of course. But its clearly an improvement, imo.
Besides, I can use the SSD externaly with my notebook and etc. in the future, so I wouldnt say that its money wasted regardless.
And a PS5 is 10x more expensive around here so I plan to wait at least one more year before buying it
AmateurPong
Member
Don't the internal and external USB drives share the same bus, so it doesn't really matter? Hoping you get some decent performance boosts, feel for you Brazilian gamers. I found my PS4 ssd to give some noticeable gains for loading times at least (other games).
Hugare
Gold Member
I'm really ignorant about this kind of stuff , so probably? But being the same as putting it internally would be good enough for me at least. Didnt want the hassle of opening my PS4 and etc.
Ive seen some pretty great improvements on some games in terms of pop in on Youtube. Most games were relatively linear during thins gen, so they probably didnt use the HDD to the extent that its being used here. Maybe that's why the benefits are expressive in this case.
Will report back in a few days with results.
Thanks for caring about brazilian gamers. We suffer like a bitch.
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
There is not all, PS4 does not have native SATA controller and it's connected through USB 3.0 and I am talking about internal. Which makes some challegens with fast read of small files. Even SATA SSD drives were huge step up, which sadly does not manifest itself in PS4s, because it's connected this way. Not sure about Xbox One, which had it's own version with SSD. But mostlikely it's going to be same.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
So, the Stadium Love side mission where you shoot targets... if I lose do I just need to murder everyone to get this gun?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Invest a little into quickhacking. Mass vulnerability daemon really softens them up and if you debuff strategically with sonic shock and reboot optics, you'll never get caught as long as you can reliably OHKO everyone.
Hugare
Gold Member
Have you seen the videos, tho?
Dont know the specifics about the tech, but its clearly night and day difference.
Couldnt care less about what is what when the difference is crystal clear like that
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Well if you are happy with the results, that's all that matters obviously : )
GaviotaGrande
Banned
It's interesting to see how the city has changed over the course of development.
2018 E3 trailer
Release
2018 E3 trailer
Release
Hugare
Gold Member
Dont want to further stray away from the thread topic, but 4 months ago, Richard from DF released a video where he shows improvements from putting an SSD on the PS4 (a very expensive one, important to note)
But the difference was clear, not only in loading times, but also in geometry/texture streaming, both in internal and external modes.
They've improved the city so much from the revealIt's interesting to see how the city has changed over the course of development.
2018 E3 trailer
Release
Just cruising around is such a blast, even on a base PS4. Cant imagine how its on PC.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
This is PS4 Pro, which unlike base console benefits from SSD.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
It's great and I'm sure with next-gen patch console versions will get a little bit closer to that PC experience.
There's a little someting to loot on that huge antenna in Kabuki - worth checking out.
PRO TIP for boxing matches: you can drop a knife, katana or any kind of melee weapon on the ring before the fight and as soon as the fight starts you can equip it to make it a little easier to beat.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
i've seen all that before but thanks...
i didn't say there wouldn't be a difference. of course there would be because even a bottlenecked SATA3 drive is gonna be faster than a spinning drive. so yeah you'll see some improvements. the person i replied to isn't talking about loading times but pop in. so all that stuff you posted is useless.
SSD in a PS4 = waste of money.
Hugare
Gold Member
Yeah, but this comparison shows that the SATA 3 on the Pro gives 2-3 seconds of advantage compared to the same SSD on the Base. So I think that the upgraded Base is still pretty good compared to default HDD.
Yeah, I was talking about pop in
But then again, have you seen the videos that I've posted? There's a clear difference there. To me, its not even close. Enough to justify the upgrade.
Will report back when the SSD arrives.
After using it with the game, I'll use it as an external SSD for my notebook and etc., so it will hardly be a waste of money
Thanks for caring about how I spend my money, tho!
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
The more I play the more I think perks and skill trees are a mess:
1. Body is supposed to be for melee, Reflexes for ranged except Body has perks for shotguns and HMGs, as well as hand-to-hand
2. Not investing points into Tech is a massive gate for crafting, you literally cannot do shit without points there. It also gives you armour useful for melee because reasons?
3. A few points in Hacking are mandatory to get the most of data mining which are free credits and materials
4. Stealth tree has multiple perks that increase melee damage because what you want from stealth is getting out of it and into combat?
1. Body is supposed to be for melee, Reflexes for ranged except Body has perks for shotguns and HMGs, as well as hand-to-hand
2. Not investing points into Tech is a massive gate for crafting, you literally cannot do shit without points there. It also gives you armour useful for melee because reasons?
3. A few points in Hacking are mandatory to get the most of data mining which are free credits and materials
4. Stealth tree has multiple perks that increase melee damage because what you want from stealth is getting out of it and into combat?
HotPocket69
Banned
Been slowing my roll a bit because I really don’t want it to end. I’m still in Act 2 in the middle of Judy’s side stuff. All districts have been cleared aside from my two bugged City Center quests. Bout 70 hours deep.
HotPocket69
Banned
All the time
dont think that part of map was fro exploration as there is closed gates and you cant pased them , well kinda, with double jump you reach interesting places in game map
if you try go further it says go back there is nothing for you there message.
now just to find way to go back ... hmm
if you try go further it says go back there is nothing for you there message.
now just to find way to go back ... hmm
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ohh yh thats large part of game its all time happening, some npc goes crazy starts to drive into other cars or just stops in middle of road , maybe they have some error in their implants or smt who knows... 2077 hard times lol
Brute
Member
I've poured a load of hours into this now. Most RPGs I get bored with the side quests after a while and just focus on main story. But i've been spending all of the festive period just soaking up the game's atmosphere and doing stuff like Suzy's tarot cards - just so I get to see loads of the map.
Just stumbled across a deserted drive-in movie theater. Spent a while there reading all of the logs from people who used to frequent it. I love this fucking game.
The reactions to the bugs were OTT. Because this is a video game made with lots of love, passion and attention to detail. It just needed a little longer on the grill.
Just stumbled across a deserted drive-in movie theater. Spent a while there reading all of the logs from people who used to frequent it. I love this fucking game.
The reactions to the bugs were OTT. Because this is a video game made with lots of love, passion and attention to detail. It just needed a little longer on the grill.
SJRB
Gold Member
This happens a LOT on bridges. I hate that shit. There's also that random van that's ALWAYS standing in the middle of the road right past the Sunset Motel.
The AI is so daft it's kinda unreal. Every time I play I'm both blown away by the visual splendor of the city, and the absolutely insanely bad AI of the traffic/pedestrians.
They're like polar opposites in term of quality/craftsmanship.
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I like it the way it is, so you can't just dump all your points into a single tree and become cybergod at one thing early on.
True but they should put in a new game plus so you can eventually replay the game as a superhuman if you want.
I fully acknowledge all the flaws and issues but I can go hours playing this game and not feel bored. That says something.
waylo
Banned
It's almost like they do this so you don't go 20 into body and neglect everything else.
KO7
Member
I’ve not had too much trouble with the harder Cyberpsychos but I’m at lvl 30 and invested a lot in armor (including cyberware subdermal 200 armor), and have a beefy katana and OP’d pistol.
Dorohedoro
Member
It only seems to rain during/after certain missions for me and never just out of the blue, or at least I don't think it's random. I'm hoping this is simply a bug and it gets fixed for it to trigger more often. Yet in TW3 it was storming like every other day smh. The rain combined with it being at night, the lights inside the car, and the lights from the city made for a visual feast the last time it occurred. And I should probably do that job for Panam called "Riders on the Storm" which has been sitting there for like the past 50 hours.
Loostreaks
Member
It's hard to describe in one line: there is something definitely for everyone. The game absolutely has the most varied mission design I've seen in any game.
Main story has classic grand setpieces, animations, great characters, with some missions more open ended, others more scripted.
Character side missions are more like in Bioware ( with honestly, better and more natural character/relationship development), more linear, with emotional beats.
Cyberpsycho sightings are mini boss fights: you go in certain area, and eventually get into a fight. Some are good, some ok. I think they could've reduced the number, and made them more varied ( when it comes to AI). You get pretty good rewards.
Then you have smaller missions, usually with little story, where you have retrieve, sabotage, or kill someone in certain location. These are like "Far Cry on steroids": you have a lot of options in how to reach your target ( go in gun blazing, stealth, hack, from roof, open doors with techie skill, etc) and I'm having a blast with gameplay. I enjoyed these, but they really need to fix stealth AI/hacking exploits.
Others are similar but with less combat, and some dialogue ( there are some really good side quests here). You can also visit lot of different locations and scenarios can be really different ( like bug a hypercar from Russian fixer, or infiltrate top floor penthouse from some rich corpo)
Or you have purely narrative driven mission, with only talking...these can have phenomenal stories ( like the one with Sinnerman).
And there are some you find in the world, or tied to characters ( like car races with Claire)..these are generally good.
A.Romero
Member
I'm a huge Witcher 3 fan so I had great expectations for this one. It took me a bit to get into it but now I'm enjoying it a lot. I'm about 30 hours in.
I left the main quest for later and I'm focusing on side quests and gigs. I've been trying to do some of the missions with stealth and have managed some but others can't really see how. For example
The big in Japan quest is amazing.
My game has been pretty much bug free out of 1 single CTD on launch day and a few animations going bonkers. However, last night I caught an interesting bug (not sure if it's the game): For a while I've been getting random disconnects from my Xbox One Elite controller. I thought my rechargeable batteries gave out so I ordered a pack of enerloops from Amazon. They came in on Saturday. Last night disconnects came back, even with the new batteries freshly recharged. I also noticed a pattern: whenever V jumped, the controller would get instantly disconnected. Just shut off. I thought it was the controller so I switched the batteries to another Xbox One controller and the same happened. Closed the game and launched Steam. Used the Identify function to make them vibrate and they didn't shut off. Went back to Cyberpunk and tried again. It didn't happen immediately but after a few minutes jumping would shut the controller off again. Turned vibration off and the disconnects went away.
Everything is updated (including the controller's firmware) so it's a weird issue. I disabled power management from the device and will try again tonight to see if it fixed it.
I left the main quest for later and I'm focusing on side quests and gigs. I've been trying to do some of the missions with stealth and have managed some but others can't really see how. For example
When rescuing Saul from the warehouse, I managed to do all the upper layer enemies without being noticed. However, when I came down the basement 2 enemies were pretty much back to back, making it impossible to attack without being noticed. No devices to use the distract enemies skill either. I broke stealth and fought my way through. Not that difficult with the widow maker..
The big in Japan quest is amazing.
The Office reference caught me by surprise. It was awesome.
My game has been pretty much bug free out of 1 single CTD on launch day and a few animations going bonkers. However, last night I caught an interesting bug (not sure if it's the game): For a while I've been getting random disconnects from my Xbox One Elite controller. I thought my rechargeable batteries gave out so I ordered a pack of enerloops from Amazon. They came in on Saturday. Last night disconnects came back, even with the new batteries freshly recharged. I also noticed a pattern: whenever V jumped, the controller would get instantly disconnected. Just shut off. I thought it was the controller so I switched the batteries to another Xbox One controller and the same happened. Closed the game and launched Steam. Used the Identify function to make them vibrate and they didn't shut off. Went back to Cyberpunk and tried again. It didn't happen immediately but after a few minutes jumping would shut the controller off again. Turned vibration off and the disconnects went away.
Everything is updated (including the controller's firmware) so it's a weird issue. I disabled power management from the device and will try again tonight to see if it fixed it.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I mostly just used quickhacking to shut off cameras and blind enemies, but I started checking out some of the other "spells" and using a combo of Short Circuit, System Reset, and Synapse Burnout really changes how you can approach a situation. Makes you feel like a Cybermancer.
I sure hope that is very low on their list of priorities.
I sure hope that is very low on their list of priorities.
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