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Dance like no one is watching; or, please help I want to die

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cdyhybrid

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Just learn how to two-step. Will work in almost every situation and it's pretty simple to do.

Also, you did the right thing by putting yourself out there and dancing even though you hated it. People really don't care as long as you're not hitting people in the face and it probably made your girlfriend very happy.
 
Unless you're a professional dancer getting paid to do the same routine over and over again until it's perfect

no one gives a fuck what you look like while dancing

They probably look just as goofy as you think you look, but the difference is they're just doing it without caring. Figure out your personal rhythm and then find a rhythm in a song and just go. If it helps watch other people dance first and mimic their movements and find the rhythm in that and apply.

It's not rocket science. It's dancing. Have fun.

Video content (don't mind the hat)

First thing I thought of when that video came on was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g-yrjh58ms

Everyone can dance. Babies dance. It's really about letting go. If you want to learn to have rhythm, listen to some music with a good bass line, and alternate your feet everytime that bass hits a new note. Dancing is more of a feeling rather than a listen and do type thing. I know deaf people that dance, hell, they do it with a partner even.

If all else fails take a class, everyone else in that class would be in the same boat as you.

Therein lies the problem. For introverts its often not as easy as just "letting go." Sometimes it gets so hard to explain that, but its like, you just... can't do it.
 

Nyx

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The thing about dancing is that nobody actually cares about how you do it.

So, move that body, brother.
 
I'm out and about and can't answer all the replies individually, but I wanted to say quick I am reading every post and really appreciate all of the feedback here. Thank you. I'll have time to answer better/longer this afternoon.

For the few people talking about my writing, I've been a hobby writer my whole life. It has definitely come through in my other threads too. I may not be able to dance, but at least people like my writing.

Lol at the guy who took his shoe off.

He was amazing.
 
I can relate to this, being a mech/tech guy my entire life I die inside when being forced into dancing.

My wife and kids forced me into playing Just Dance now and then and because they know it's literally hell for me it makes it all the more funny and enjoyable for them when they finally coax me to do it.

It sounds like your GF was the same, she knows it's not your thing but the important thing was you were there humiliation and all with her doing something she likes and I am sure she was happy because she was with you knowing you were trying for her.

If you want to git gud, grab a dance game and have fun with her, it's private and fun and might even help you open up a bit with it lol, worst case it's just some shameless fun for the two of you and a time she can do what she likes with you.
 

Piers

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I can't dance and it shows: friends will try to give me advice ASAP or mirror my movements to hint at how dorky I'm looking.

But that doesn't matter too much because generally people dance when drunk or to crush some pus.
 

Devil

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Ain't your avatar from Elite Beat Agents of all games....? At least thinking so made it even more entertaining to read, you're a good writer, lol.
 

Kenstar

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I really wish this was my avatar.

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I don't even get why the Duane dance became a meme for virgins. With those moves, he's a hit with the ladies. Probably just salty dudes who couldn't dance decided to propagate that virgin meme about him.
 
Therein lies the problem. For introverts its often not as easy as just "letting go." Sometimes it gets so hard to explain that, but its like, you just... can't do it.

No, its not that they can't do it, it's that people just dont want to do it. In order to make a change for themself, they have to want to change. You are the only person that can change yourself.

I have an anxiety disorder, and for about a year I even had some pretty severe agoraphobia...like, panic attacks as I was getting out of the house, thinking I had angina while I forced myself to go for a jog but I couldn't make it past two blocks because I constantly thought I was going to die of a heart attack. I had full body "tingles"/body sleeping constantly as I tried to drive for the few minutes it took to get to my girlfriends house.

I took a dance class because I KNEW it would be hard to do, but I needed the change in my life, and I knew I had to force a change. I ended up falling in love with dance, its the thing that helped me "let go".
 
I'm tone deaf. I take myself very seriously. Nobody could force me to dance.

I wouldn't be with a girl if she didn't let the no dancing thing slide. My positives come from elsewhere.

Edit: For those who say nobody cares, let me tell you... I do:

I was at a wedding with my ex and she was on the dance floor (it was more of a group dance not a couples thing). They formed a circle and each took turns inside of it. When she burst in and started dancing horrifically my head autonomously snapped away. It was such a terrible thing that the lizard part of my brain knew to take the wheel.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
I don't think you eally teach someone to free style dance, but you can learn generic structured dance move specific to a set of various common beats and just do that all the time.

If there's one thing I've learnt from my time in clubs in university, is that the vast majority of people in either can't dance or not confident in their abilties to do so. I love to dance and I'm pretty good at it, but honestly not being able to dance or being to embarassed to do so isn't some rare phenomenom.
 
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This kid is an absolute boss!! Yes, its "cheesy" because its dated but just look at how into it he is? This is the key to dancing.

To the OP, in my younger days I was heavily into the rave scene so I done alot of dancing. All popular music is in beats of 4's, 8's, 16's, so any little changes in beat will be on these beats. I can only speak for dance music but knowing this will help you go a long way to being a good dancer. Also just being able to "let go" is really the biggest part of it, most people arent gifted with natural rhythm. I know this is easier said than done but really in a dance environment noone takes any notice of how bad or mediocre you are. If you are good, thats when you will be noticed.
 

GeoGonzo

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For the few people talking about my writing, I've been a hobby writer my whole life. It has definitely come through in my other threads too. I may not be able to dance, but at least people like my writing.

Ah, not surprising. You should post more often then!
I can't offer any advice on the dancing topic but I hope some other post here help set you on your groovy path.
 
What type of dancing are we talking about OP? Salsa / Latin / Mumba? Or we just talking about moving to music with some rhythm to some pop / dance music?

If it's the latter, then it's pretty easy. You don't need to learn 'moves'. Nobody does that shit on wedding dance floors or in the middle of fields. They look like douches in a room packed of 'normal' people. I think the problem you have is just confidence. You probably think you looks silly, but in fact you look the same. Keep it simple, listen to dance music albums and get used to the beat and just move to that, again keep it simple.

Eventually, you'll move naturally to it and you're GF will respond. On dance tracks you usually get build ups and then drops. Keep the build ups for attention to your GF, like get her to get her back to you and you press up against her and she'll slut drop and all that awesome stuff, like this :

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Then when the beat kicks in, get your hands in the air and go with the beat together. It's fucking amazing man.

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Failing that and you really do have 2 left feet, then embrace it and just dance anyway. You're GF will still love it.

Music is food for the soul, man. Join your (great sounding) woman and feast on it together.
 

Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
First, kudos to you for putting yourself out there. I'm not exactly a good dancer - in fact, I never dance -, so I can relate to you and I can see how terrifyingly embarrassing the whole thing was. You're brave.

Second, you should simply show your post to your girlfriend. Granted, she might not be able to help you become a better dancer, but it's so heartfelt and well-written that she will no doubt have a better understanding of what your problem is and how it makes you feel. She'll be appreciative for sure.

If you're too self-conscious about it and have some money, have you considered hiring a dancing coach? As opposed to taking classes with other people and how embarrassing that can be.
 
As introvert who is a dancer. The bestwway is to stand in front of a mirror alone put on your favorite music and try to dance it will help understand how you normally move and it be easier for you clean it up until it look better and once you get comfortable look up some videos look for a simple move that looks really cool to you and try to add it to your routine you'll find your self copying some dancer you see it might not look as clean but once you've got image in your head you be able to adjust your self and even come up with your own style . In dancing as long as as your confident and loose even simple moves will look impressive.
 

Schmitty

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The more you over think it, the harder it is. The people who are making judgments about other people's dancing are the ones that dont have the guts to dance themselves
 

Quonny

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You'll probably never get comfortable with it, but you know what? That's okay. Just watch a few YouTube videos and learn some simple moves, and just do them over and over.

Your girlfriend only cares that you're out there with her. She doesn't care if you have two left feet. And the other people? They're just as awkward as you are.

Oh, and alcohol. It really helps. Obviously not enough to get sloppy, but enough to loosen you up. I know it helped me at my wedding.
 
The dancing required of me is definitely just the casual dancing you see at concerts, weddings, and company parties. We went to a Weezer concert last year and I had a great time, but she was dancing a lot and I wasn't. She didn't mind or anything, but she mistakes my stone-like appearance for boredom. She's constantly checking to make sure I'm having fun or that everything is fine. We've been together over three years now and she knows it's just how I am, but I don't like that it makes her insecure. If we are at a concert and I'm having a great time with her, I want her to know it. I don't want her to wonder if I'm bored or disinterested because I just stand there. Or, worse, lean against a wall.

The conclusion I have come to is that my girlfriend will always be dancing and moving and really enjoying the moment. This is never going to change. She does this because she loves it. Meanwhile, I just find a small group to stand in or lean against the dreaded wall. This has to change because I do this because I'm insecure. She should not have to keep herself in check and second-guess my enthusiasm because I'm insecure. I should at least be trying to match her vibe, whenever possible, because I know in my mind that I want to. Even if I'm extremely insecure about it.

Somebody a little higher mentioned people forming a circle on the dance floor and taking turns pushing people in the middle. This happened at my company party. Another woman physically pulled my girlfriend away from me and threw her in the middle (not violently - this was fine). She was only in there for like ten seconds, but after that ten seconds, everybody knew who my girlfriend was.

When she got out, she grabbed me and pushed me in. I had no idea what to do. To be frank, I don't even remember what I did. I vaguely remember doing the Elaine Benes "kicks" to try to illicit a laugh, but I don't think anyone got it. After those ten seconds, it felt like everybody knew who I was too. Even if it's all in my head and nobody cares that I was terrible, it's a really unpleasant place to be.

I know my girlfriend would help me with this, but I haven't been 100% honest with how much I hate dancing. After the party, she kept saying how much fun she had and thanking me for dancing with her. It was our first time representing ourselves to my company as a couple and I know that, in spite of my terrible dancing, it went really well. I know that if I tell her how uncomfortable I was, it will only sour what was a terrific night for her.

I have to get better first, and more comfortable first, before I confess I used to keep a cyanide capsule in my molar in case Uptown Funk came on.

I think I'm going to stand in front of a mirror and just watch myself move, if only to better diagnose what needs to improve (re: everything). Part of it is definitely not knowing what I even look like. Somebody who was at the party told me "stick out my thumbs", which has made me realize I dance with closed fists. This probably betrays how uncomfortable I am.

Another thing I will need to wrap my head around is simply increasing my range of movement. I have very reserved body language and make myself fairly small. I sit up straight, I don't spread my legs out, and I wear a messenger bag a lot just so I can hold one of my hands on the strap. That's one less hand to worry about, you know? So dancing means I have to let go of all my common postures and move in a way I literally never do otherwise. I might as well be trying to learn triple backflaps. It's that alien to me.

Man, I am so anal retentive, how did I get this way?
 
What would you guys do? Let me illustrate exactly how musically inept I am. In high school, I was in a mandatory chorus class. I was a baritone, so I didn't even have to sing the melody. In the middle of a song we were singing, my chorus teacher stopped us all. He pointed to the kid next to me, played a note on the piano, and told him to match it. He did.

He then pointed to the kid on the other side of me. He played another note on the piano and asked him to match it. He did.

Then he pointed to me. He played the note on the piano. My brain immediately fried. It was like being asked to define a word from a language I have never heard. Match the note, he said. And I couldn't. I didn't even know how to try. He just kept playing it over and over while I sat there sweating. Finally, he started making the note.

"Aaaaaah-" he said.

"Aaaaaah-" I said, totally off.

"AAAAAH-" he says louder.

"AAAAAH-" I say again, totally off from both his and my previous note.

We just stared at each other yelling "AAAAAAAH" while I randomly adjusted my pitch in an attempt to land on whatever note he was making. Finally he kicked me out of the class because he thought I was doing it on purpose.

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OP you have to start to not give a fuck. Dancing is about having fun. Nobody really cares if you can dance, just enjoy your time with your girlfriend and just maybe you get the hang of it. Go clubbing with her. Get comfortable.
 

GHG

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OP, you need to just shut your brain off and do whatever the music tells you to do. The music controls your body, not the other way round. Just go crazy and have fun, the moment you do everyone will want to dance with you.

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Chorazin

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If you're lacking confidence about your body in general, start working out. Trust me, it'll help a lot! Plus you'll have increased stamina and you won't feel like you don't have the energy to do things like dance. :)
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I once had a music teacher that tried to make me hit a note.

He sang a note and told me to repeat the note. I did, or at least I tried, and he said, nope, do it one octave higher. I don't even fucking know what an octave is, but whatever, I tried higher, but of course I couldn't hit his exact note. We spend ten minutes, in a class of 25, just him doing a note and me trying to match it. I never did.

I should also note (hehe) that this was a music teacher trying to teach a class how to sing with 6-year-old kids, because apparently if these kids learned songs one octave to low, it would be the absolute end of the world.
 

Llyranor

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Do random motions like sweeping the floor, wax on-wax off, Hail Hydra, blowing locomotive's horn, eating a burger, patting yourself on your head while making circular motions along your torso with your other hand, sweeping dust off of your shoulder, driving a bus.
 
Do random motions like sweeping the floor, wax on-wax off, Hail Hydra, blowing locomotive's horn, eating a burger, patting yourself on your head while making circular motions along your torso with your other hand, sweeping dust off of your shoulder, driving a bus.

I am too inept to even know if this is real advice.

I let so many kids off the bus that night. I was a long route.
 

Denzar

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I am too inept to even know if this is real advice.

I let so many kids off the bus that night. I was a long route.

Doesn't matter as long as you're having fun. I do the stupidest shit while dancing but I have tons of fun and had people compliment me because I was entertaining to watch. Apparently.

Like many have said before me, it all comes down to confidence and your own body image.

ohyeah, you went way out of your comfort zone for your lady. Props to you dude. That's love!
 
I used to be self conscious about dancing but I got better after realizing a few things:

1. Dancing in social occasions is way better than being "that guy" and standing around awkwardly saying "I don't dance"
2. Pretending you know how to dance is the entire battle. That's literally it. As with all aspects of life, confidence is the most important part! And since I'm overflowing with shining confidence, it's all good!
3. Hamming it up is the best way to get positive attention. Role reversal, ESPECIALLY gender role reversal is always a big hit at parties. Shows everyone you're ultra casual and don't give a damn and it's funny and everyone cheers and it's great!
4. Nobody cares how you dance. Just... don't step on anyone's feet.
5. Probably the least relevant to all of you, but KNOW HOW TO DO THE TIME WARP. I know how to do it really well and get people super riled up for it and I always end up having a solo dance off with someone in the middle of the inevitable giant circle of people that comes from it.

No idea how much of any of that is relevant to you, but it's my own experiences from someone who used to be self conscious about the same thing and GOT BETTER

Wish you the best of luck, friend!
 

Llyranor

Member
I am too inept to even know if this is real advice.

I let so many kids off the bus that night. I was a long route.
Don't even think of it as dancing. Hopefully eventually you'll learn to relax enough to branch out.

I was like you, once. Hated dancing. Couldn't even move my hips. One day, while abroad, a friend dared me to go dancing on a bar table (there was a spot reserved for that there). He would go up there for 10min and I would have to be up there 10 seconds. So I took him up on it. Once you're up there for 10sec and already "embarrassed" yourself with awkward shifting-around, it doesn't even matter anymore if you're up there longer, so I stayed up there for a good number of minutes, way more than the agreed-upon 10sec. Being abroad helped, since I'd never see these people again.

I still can't dance, but I can easily relax and "dance" if I have to, now. Once I went out of my comfort zone and broke out of that shell, I stopped feeling miserable when put into a social dancing situation.

You're probably intimidated by the crowd. They don't matter. If you're there dancing with your gf, think of it as having fun and doinh wacky things with her. Everyone else doesn't matter and doesn't care. That change in perspectice also helped me out.
 
I already had anxiety about going because I didn't know what to expect, but knowing I was going to have to dance made me repeatedly consider driving my Camry into the ocean. But, again, I love my girlfriend and am still making payments on the car. I chose, this time, to live.

I dunno anything about dancing, but at least you can console yourself that you can write some pretty funny stuff.
 

Jeffrey

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What was that infamous 4ch post?

Something like, do reload animations with imaginary guns from your favorite shooter games with your hands, and you'll look like a badass on the dance floor.
 
You know, after reading this I've had literally the exact opposite problem many times with my partners. I'm the one dancing/cheering/losing my bananas at events like that and they're always stone face cold and me checking on them every now and then.

Like we get that you're a different person, we just feel anxious sometimes and want to make sure you have a good time.
 

Doc_Drop

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From my experience I would wonder what music you like listening to. I love dancing but struggle to muster any enthusiasm (unless some form of drugs/alcohol involved) if I don't like the music.

I could spend an entire day dancing to Reggae/Dub but at weddings and stuff I struggle unless intoxicated because the music isn't moving me.

You honestly sound like you have a great attitude towards it and you'll eventually find your way. You might need to open your mind musically to stuff that you may not have been into before. Anything bass heavy with a simple 1-2-3-4 beat will help
 

Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
I know my girlfriend would help me with this, but I haven't been 100% honest with how much I hate dancing. After the party, she kept saying how much fun she had and thanking me for dancing with her. It was our first time representing ourselves to my company as a couple and I know that, in spite of my terrible dancing, it went really well. I know that if I tell her how uncomfortable I was, it will only sour what was a terrific night for her.

I have to get better first, and more comfortable first, before I confess I used to keep a cyanide capsule in my molar in case Uptown Funk came on.

Your girlfriend sounds like a peach. She sounds very understanding, and you both love and respect each other a lot.

Which is why I'm going to have to disagree with you. First, you don't "know" any of the bolded, you assume based on... what? Insecurity? Second, she clearly feels no shame towards you, and if she is how you describe her, she will welcome your honesty, and I have no doubt that she'll understand.

You're getting the steps out of order. You shouldn't go:
1) Be honest with myself
2) Conceal (part of) my feelings and try to improve on my own
3) Confess to my GF I used to feel like shit

but:
1) Be honest with myself
2) Confess to my GF I feel like shit (without being an ass about it, obviously; I'm sure you'll be tactful)
3) Start working on improving myself

That way she'll be able to support you better than ever, which will help you tremendously in your quest to become more confident. She'll also stop making sure you're having a good time all the time because she'll know that you do and you're just insecure. So you won't feel bad that she always has to check up on you at parties. Also, with how much you love her, you owe her this honesty. It's just a matter of making her understand that you're not blaming her for anything but that you need to express what you feel and be honest with her (which you do, right?).
 
Damn you are way overthinking it out there bro. Just enjoy yoself.

This advice is very hard for me to follow, even though I respect and appreciate it in concept.

I'm not really in a position to just do what feels natural or to just enjoy myself since, as I've mentioned, nothing feels natural and I don't enjoy it. I really prefer to talk at parties. I go from group to group and tell stories, hear jokes, make sure everyone has a ride home, etc. That's my kind of party, that's my kind of presence, and that's what I usually do.

My girlfriend is like this as well, but also loves to dance. So the longer I drag out the social tango, the more anxious she gets to get out there. And when we are someplace together, it's not just about what I want to do. It's about both of us having a good time.

So, if you can understand, I don't enjoy dancing and would never do it on my own. So I can't just bust out there and go with the flow because that river is frozen solid. But I do want to dance with her. So I have to reconcile my own disgust with dancing with my intense interest to become a better and more comfortable dancer.

Do you know what I mean?
 

Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
This advice is very hard for my to follow, even though I respect and appreciate it in concept.

I'm not really in a position to just do what feels natural or to just enjoy myself since, as I've mentioned, nothing feels natural and I don't enjoy it. I really prefer to talk at parties. I go from group to group and tell stories, hear jokes, make sure everyone has a ride home, etc. That's my kind of party, that's my kind of presence, and that's what I usually do.

My girlfriend is like this as well, but also loves to dance. So the longer I drag out the social tango, the more anxious she gets to get out there. And when we are someplace together, it's not just about what I want to do. It's about both of us having a good time.

So, if you can understand, I don't enjoy dancing and would never do it on my own. So I can't just bust out there and go with the flow because that river is frozen solid. But I do want to dance with her. So I have to reconcile my own disgust with dancing with my intense interest to become a better and more comfortable dancer.

Do you know what I mean?

Don't sweat it. If it's any consolation, I have pretty much the same reaction while reading this type of advice: to stop overthinking and to enjoy yourself is the end goal, not the means. Don't pay any attention to this type of message, and focus on concrete advice and considerations (like mine above, say :p).
 

Jerrod

Member
I was in a very similar situation recently with a girl I went on a few dates with. She loves music and dancing and I had only danced once in public before. We were at a club but nobody was dancing and she dragged me onto the dance floor in front of everybody and we danced. Well she did, I have no idea what I was doing but she led me a bit and I was also drunk so that helped. I know I looked like a complete idiot to everybody but I loved every second of it as I just got to be close to her and see her smiling face, 10/10 would do it again in a heartbeat. On another date we visited a salsa dance club just to see what it was like, neither of us having taken salsa dance lessons before. She mimicked their moves almost perfectly while I just stood there looking uncomfortable. If the relationship had gotten serious I was planning on taking dance lessons to surprise her.
 

G-Bus

Banned
Over thinking it.

Drinking helps. Get a little liquid courage.

No one gives a crap except maybe your gf and she sounds like shes enjoying you. Don't worry about anyone else.

Keep making an effort and you'll get it.

Was in the same boat years ago. I kept telling myself I don't care what people think. I know I looked resoculous, but over the years things have clicked a bit. I'm not any good imo but I have zero problems getting out there and moving around. It can be a lot of fun, especially when everyone's drunk and having a good time.
 
Will Smith's advice in Hitch is probably the best. Just learn a basic two-step, arms at your sides. It will get you through 90% of dance music produced in the last half century.

Alternatively, you can take a class with your girl. You'll be far less self-conscious in a room full of noobs, and they take it really, really slow to start off.

And yes, Dance Central is a great guide, because you're not given the chance to "do what feels natural", you have to do the routine or you fail, just like Guitar Hero.
 

nicanica

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If you can do QTEs with your thumbs. You can do this with your knees.
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No one expects anything from you. Your girlfriend just wants you on the floor with her.
Nothing More.

Editing for tips since I read that you do want to dance with her.
If you can do the above like the dog bouncing its knees,
next part you hold her hands and let your arms act like loose rope. She'll swing them the way she wants. All the while just focus on bouncing your knees.

Practice in front of a mirror to a song you know she likes listening to.
Stand
Listen
Wait for the "Boop boop boop"
Bend your knees like the dog in the gif.
Don't worry about your upper body. just bounce your knees.

Here. You can practice Daft Punk makes things pretty easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGBhQbmPwH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yca6UsllwYs

Do it to both songs once.
Then if you think you've got the hang of it, practice nodding your head every time your bounce your knees.

and smile for fucks sakes!
 

Sianos

Member
What was that infamous 4ch post?

Something like, do reload animations with imaginary guns from your favorite shooter games with your hands, and you'll look like a badass on the dance floor.
Is there any videos of this? I'm feeling significantly intrigued in the strangest way.

It's true that the key to dancing really is to just pretend you know how to dance and acting confident about it. Remember that no one you will come across is a trained dancer with formal dancing "skill" and are just doing the same you are doing.

I also second the advice that people love gender role reversals when you're dancing, too. Moving your hips is the secret cheat code to being sexy!
 
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