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[Heel]

So basically, Bryan was working the smarks. Knew his brain was fucked, but used questionable docs and online hype to try and wear WWE down into letting him wrestle again.

I still love ya, dude, but damn, that's carny as fuck, breh.

Goes to show, professional athletes have a competitive drive and love for their profession that's often misplaced in the grand scheme of things. They often need to be protected from themselves and told when to quit. WWE should be applauded for doing just that.

The saddest part? Their "fans" egging them on to continue, as displayed in this thread, does them no favors in this regard.

 

[Kaiterra]

You guys acting like WWE knew exactly what was wrong is some real horse shit.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Guess we know which wrestler is winning Carny of the Year this time

 

[Ithil]

So basically, Bryan was working the smarks. Knew his brain was fucked, but used questionable docs and online hype to try and wear WWE down into letting him wrestle again.

I still love ya, dude, but damn, that's carny as fuck, breh.

You're ascribing an awful lot of bullshit to him there.

 

[notworksafe]

You guys acting like WWE knew exactly what was wrong is some real horse shit.

doesn't matter if they knew 100% what was going on. they made the right call.

 

[Heel]

You guys acting like WWE knew exactly what was wrong is some real horse shit.

We don't know that. Even if they didn't, they erred on the side of caution when they could have looked the other way and continued making money off him. This ultimately beared out to be the correct decision.

They should be applauded, but fans too close to the issue would rather broaden the discussion in order to find a new avenue to be critical.

 

[Ithil]

You guys acting like WWE knew exactly what was wrong is some real horse shit.

The people saying stuff like "questionable docs" based on literally nothing are being pretty silly. I don't think creating this narrative to push helps anyone.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

I wonder if Dave will let us push in this for Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic. I mean, it's disgusting, it was for Bryan's benefit only and for public stuff (the definition of "promotional"), and it was absolutely a tactic

ed: VV Same

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Bryan explained what he has:

I'm glad he retired before it was too late.

 

[blackaroni]

Bryan explained what he has:

WOW! I'm glad he finally realized that there are way more important things going on than being in a ring. Props to the WWE for not putting him back in the ring too. I really hope no one else on the roster is hiding something like this.

 

[UberTag]

WOW! I'm glad he finally realized that there are way more important things going on than being in a ring. Props to the WWE for not putting him back in the ring too. I really hope no one else on the roster is hiding something like this.

Let's ask Jennifer Lawrence for her assessment on the health of the rest of the WWE roster.
They're not hiding concussion symptoms so they can continue doing what they love for a living, are they?

Well, I'm convinced. Everyone else is clean. No in-depth concussion tests needed for anybody.

 

[Anth0ny]

We don't know that. Even if they didn't, they erred on the side of caution when they could have looked the other way and continued making money off him. This ultimately beared out to be the correct decision.

They should be applauded, but fans too close to the issue would rather broaden the discussion in order to find a new avenue to be critical.

This is true. It's really fucked up that Bryan was hiding those symptoms from everyone


At the same time... this is still WWE. Bubba Ray is an active performer. Tommy Dreamer just had a run. There is no chance in hell their brains aren't as scrambled as Bryan's, if not FAR more severe.

I wouldn't be surprised if guys like Hunter and Taker failed a similar test as well. The human brain was not made to pro wrestler at the level and frequency these guys have been going at for the last couple of decades.

 

[Heel]

Let's ask Jennifer Lawrence for her assessment on the health of the rest of the WWE roster.
They're not hiding concussion symptoms so they can continue doing what they love for a living, are they?

Well, I'm convinced. Everyone else is clean. No in-depth concussion tests needed for anybody.

Where was this concern for concussions when everyone was pining for Daniel Bryan to get back in the ring?

 

[blackaroni]

This is true. It's really fucked up that Bryan was hiding those symptoms from everyone


At the same time... this is still WWE. Bubba Ray is an active performer. Tommy Dreamer just had a run. There is no chance in hell their brains aren't as scrambled as Bryan's, if not FAR more severe.

I wouldn't be surprised if guys like Hunter and Taker failed a similar test as well. The human brain was not made to pro wrestler at the level and frequency these guys have been going at for the last couple of decades.

There is no way that any of those guys would be in the ring if they were getting seizures due lesions on their brain.

 

[Kaiterra]

Where was this concern for concussions when everyone was pining for Daniel Bryan to get back in the ring?

See, this kind of post is the issue I have with the way you guys are framing this. We had the same conflicting information that Bryan was clinging to, but you guys are pushing it like we KNEW FOR A FACT he was beyond repair and had no right to hope otherwise and it just makes it feel like you guys're taking advantage of the situation to build yet another internet nerd strawman to feel superior to.

Personally I've been skeptical of the WWE's medical side ever since they blatantly changed the Wellness Policy to keep from having to axe Orton that one time, and I was wondering why the hell Bryan was allowed to keep doing the diving headbutt when he was still active, and if I'd known there were more comprehensive tests like this one, would have been beating the drum that they should be used across the board much earlier. I mean do you even disagree that they shouldn't be? If not, what the fuck is even the point of saying stuff like that except to carry on some bullshit internet fight?

After all, the premise here is that we should be praising the WWE for making the right call (I basically agree, at least now) and shaming everyone who disagreed with or was skeptical of them (not so much on this) based not on the information that was available at the time, but based on what we know now. So the idea is that if you're doing the right thing, it doesn't matter what the reason is. So... With that in mind... What's the point of posts like the quoted one, again?

I dunno I wish that there could be some kind of discussion about anything wrasslin' around here anymore that didn't devolve into this smark vs. anti-smark bullshit.

 

[Meciu]

It's a pity. I've really liked him. But if it's due to health problems than i guess he choose right.

 

[iMax]

Titus got suspended for grabbing Vince at the end of Bryan's segment. Amazing.

 

[jmdajr]

Titus got suspended for grabbing Vince at the end of Bryan's segment. Amazing.

for real?

edit: LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[Entropia]

Titus got suspended for grabbing Vince at the end of Bryan's segment. Amazing.

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! LOL

God damn. WOW

 

[Bruce Springsteen]

Titus got suspended for grabbing Vince at the end of Bryan's segment. Amazing.

Why would Titus try to clown around during that? I saw the video, it was just awkward

 

[Fox318]

Titus got suspended for grabbing Vince at the end of Bryan's segment. Amazing.

Reigns can spear him in the ring clean but Titus can't even try to hug the man?

 

[Netherscourge]

Unless Titus is just a complete moron, I can't help but think there may be more going on here.

But either scenario is possible.

 

[D4Danger]

luckily for him Vince doesn't hold grudges

 

[rugioh]

Reigns can spear him in the ring clean but Titus can't even try to hug the man?

You just gotta baleeb dat

 

[Liquidsnake]

I don't know what Titus was thinking, but that was pretty stupid of him to do.

 

[Bruce Springsteen]

I mean, Titus just swung the man around LOL, made Vince look foolish

 

[Leona Lewis]

Incredibly idiotic.

Know your place and time. Vince has places to be, mid-carders to push, Smackdowns to write, Rybacks to orally pleasure, etc etc

he ain't got time for that

 

[Chamber]

Bad time to joke with the boss. Titus is an idiot for that one.

 

[Jeff Albertson]

Feel bad for Titus as he's an amazing bloke but idiotic by him, surely he's done for now.

Then again this is the bloke that was famous for his 'if you are going to win - make it a win' promo, nearly knocked himself out on the carrying a keg and tweeted a pic of his dong

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

This is up there with all the dumbass shit Shad did that JTG wrote about in his book.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I would like to wish Titus the best of luck on his future endeavors

 

[Macho Madness]

A slight bit of relief. Dave Meltzer said on the F4W Board: "(Bryan) Danielson's last seizure was four years ago."

 

[MassiveNights]

It sounds like Dave Meltzer played a major role in Daniel Bryan's retirement.

Dave watched an ROH show in January where Kevin Kelly did a bit on commentary about when ROH tested the locker room's IQ years ago that Daniel Bryan came out on top.

As many people know Meltzer is also an MMA journalist, he had been in Vegas recently getting access to state of the art concussion test technology that bypasses IQ testing in traditional concussion testing (which can be unreliable as people with high IQs can pass concussion testing i.e. Daniel Bryan).

This is the testing Bryan got that changed his mind when it uncovered a lesion on part of his brain 9 months after his last concussion.

Meltzer has not taken direct credit for this as it would be ghoulish and classless but if you read between the lines on Wrestling Observer Radio and this week's Observer Newsletter it is obvious.

By the way the online subscription to Meltzer's podcast and newsletter are well worth it, especially this week.

 

[Ithil]

A slight bit of relief. Dave Meltzer said on the F4W Board: "(Bryan) Danielson's last seizure was four years ago."

And Bryan also never hid them from his doctors, he meant he was hiding them from the public and media. He did not mention them in his book for instance.

 

[jmdajr]

Which Daniel Bryan moment are you most grateful for?

62% Winning the WWE World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania 30

6% Hugging it out with Kane in Team Hell No

7% Beating John Cena at SummerSlam 2013

5% Stealing the spotlight at the "Championship Ascension" ceremony in Seattle on Dec.9,2013

2% His surprise return at SummerSlam 2010

2% Winning the Intercontinental Championship at WrestleMania 31

16% "Occupying Raw" with the "Yes!" Movement on March 10, 2014