melonrabbit
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Answers to your questions, Royal
Splinter and Sophia, Yes and Yes.
Answers to your questions, Royal
Splinter and Sophia, Yes and Yes.
Mafia is happening
Kark is scum
The night Sophia died?Splinter and Sophia, Yes and Yes.
So a few people have asked me why I town read Matt, but I don't think he's ever asked me himself? He apparently doesn't have a problem with someone trusting him with no justification? And if I read this post right he trusts me?
Either trusts me or just wants to stay on my good side.
Food for thought, but its not enough for me to call him scum.
Melonrabbit, I need you to answer the following questions:
Who did you give items to?
Is each item unique?
Do you know what the items do?
StarSketch, I need you to stop reacting and to start thinking. In which universe would Scum Kark fakeclaiming mason with DP name a Townie as DP instead of one of his scumbuddies?
And to answer your question, Splinter: Because I have a hard time believing one could play confusion so well if one had access to a secret chat.
That's the thing though, why me? Why would DP say he's me? Why hasn't DP told Kark he screwed up? If he's using my name for whatever reason he can at least tell Kark "Yo, I lied"
If I'm being used as bait, I don't quite see how that helps town, because we'll still lose a townie off this.
I can't see DP being killed over a confirmed town. Anonymous vote isn't a huge deal at this point, confirmed townies are a bigger threat to scum.Maybe Kark knows very well who DP is and set you up as NK bait? So they kill another unconfirmed person instead of one of our confirmed Townies or the real DP? And the real DP knows what's going on?
I can't see DP being killed over a confirmed town. Anonymous vote isn't a huge deal at this point, confirmed townies are a bigger threat to scum.
Thoughts, anyone? Never mind my dodgy gut, this is damning evidence right here.Every single scum was on Blarg?! Scum must have been on the line.
Haven't done a re-read of the previous day yet, so I don't remember for sure who was on the line. However, the previous vote count was 30 minutes before he end, has:
Flush & Rats on Trigger (town on town)
Blarg and Stan on Kark (town on *cough*)
Melon and Sketch on Panda (unknown on town)
That's only 2 votes each though, I'll have to re-read the day to see where the wind was blowing before Blarg.
A switcher not only protects people but can also redirect the kill back onto scum. There was also a small pool of confirmed for scum/Rats to play chicken with. Don't pretend that's even close to the same thing.Did you tell this your scumbuddies? Because Rats wasn't confirmed.
At least 1 of gryvan/Matt/Ultron/Sketch is town.You're going all in with that Kark thing, huh? It won't work, buddy. I trust my fellow Townies to not vote for Kark.
At least 1 of gryvan/Matt/Ultron/Sketch is town.
0 of Kark is town.
He's literally just running down the clock at this point. I thought he'd at least have claimed DP by now, but he's not even doing that while we still have time to pick it apart.
Are you claiming DP? How can you still believe this mess of a claim and ignore the vote record?You're wrong. Kark is Town. Kark is not DP.
Are you claiming DP? How can you still believe this mess of a claim and ignore the vote record?
Flush, not Kark.No, Kark's not DP. His Jazz claim draws attention to him, and makes him slight NK bait.
I'm not allowed to claim anything. But I trust Kark. And I was confirmed as Town by our Cop. Draw the conclusions yourself.Are you claiming DP? How can you still believe this mess of a claim and ignore the vote record?
Well at least you're thinking now. Second one is whre the money is, but the first theory isn't even bad. But haven't you been kind of on the chopping block since D1? Why would he choose you instead of a less endangered unconfirmed Townie?I have no idea what to do anymore
Scum Kark: could have been using my name to draw attention to me, and then lie tomorrow saying it was scum bait the entire time when I 'miraculously' don't get NK'd
Town Kark: could be using me as NK bait because of course he wasn't going to reveal the real DP's identity and would rather a unconfirmed player go down instead
Occam's razor? Why would scum Kark play like this? Why haven't DP counter claimed? DP can't have been Corn because we didn't have an anonymous vote.Are you claiming DP? How can you still believe this mess of a claim and ignore the vote record?
Both me and flush appear to have misread your post.Flush, not Kark.
Also I think Kark's claim was after cop targets were revealed, and Kark's been a suspect forever. He was never at risk of NK
Vote:Karkador
I was incredibly tempted to just roll with the claim as a protective measure for whoever the actual DP is, but they might claim if I did.
StarSketch's test was this - if I named her as Danny Phantom, would she go along with it, or would she reject it?
We can make a inference about her alignment based on her reaction.
StarSketch, who only antagonized Darryl once (that I can see right now) and who hasn't really antagonized my claims as DP's friend, seemed like someone who believes that I'm telling the truth about my role, and Danny Phantom.
So I tried to hand her the baton, and it seemed like she almost went along with it - then this happened:
I was taken aback by the reasoning, because it's a pretty sharp contradiction that doesn't make sense.
The whole game I've been playing has been "as a protective measure for whoever the actual DP is". Clearly, Town trusts me enough to demand hard proof, and DP trusts me enough to not shut it down. If DP didn't claim when I was doing it, why would they claim when I'm handing the baton to you?
I actually don't think that statement was made with the interest of "protecting the actual DP" at all.
So it makes me think:
There's an advantage to being declared as Danny Phantom. Nobody is going to lynch you. They'll sooner lynch me to verify that they shouldn't lynch whoever I name.
It's a really sweet deal for a mafia player to be 'unlynchable' - almost too sweet. They accept the DP name, but then mafia doesn't kill them at night. Then it becomes obvious that something is wrong.
If StarSketch is mafia, she probably didn't have anyone to consult right at that moment, and in that moment when I named her, she searched and flopped around for what the "proper" response should have been. She agreed, then tried to throw me under the bus....then relented, but then now again, under the bus.
Not agreeing is one thing, but trying to throw me under the bus for it is what pushes my gut to think this is a mafia reaction. Especially now that "the cavalry" has certainly arrived in their chat to get the story straight.
So the facts of the game are, I know who DP is, and I used that knowledge to give StarSketch and *Splinter a test.
I need to risk the game on someone's flip and with the current pace we won't have another page of evidence by day end.
Would DP fucking claim already? This is ridiculous.
If we aren't lynching Kark, who are we lynching?
I can't see DP being killed over a confirmed town. Anonymous vote isn't a huge deal at this point, confirmed townies are a bigger threat to scum.
Err, no it isntYou're the only person trying to get DP out. I know the anon vote means little at this point but trying to get a confirmed townie out in the open is pretty scummy.
vote: Splinter*
I'll do that as soon as you give me a single reason to do soStill feel free to explain your item , Splinter
I'll do that as soon as you give me a single reason to do so
Bullshit. There's nothing "convincing" about knowing exactly what this does. Now that melon has revealed scum haven't had one, there is even less reason to talk about it.Because an aexplanation maybe convinces me you're not making things up, and there's really more power in establishing facts at this point than in you playing with toys
Bullshit. There's nothing "convincing" about knowing exactly what this does. Now that melon has revealed scum haven't had one, there is even less reason to talk about it.
I HAVE AN ITEMYou also have some nerve accusing me of running the clock when you could have told us information about the game yesterday
Melon gave her targets, I assumed she gave all of them but that's a fair point. She needs to give all her targets if she hasnt done so alreadySo you're claiming melon knows who the scum players are?
You've had the item since at least what, Day 5?
Huh?Seems a tad disingenuous to act like you only got it today