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They both need help. She isn't that into romance and would be happy with complacency. He's worried she'll cheat on him with ponytail-vegan guy and tries to control who she hangs out with, telling her "if this girl moves close to you and this becomes your life choices Ill drop you instantly."

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Ah don't you have to pay for everything...?

You get what you pay for, bro. Hell, I just paid for a month of Tinder so I can pre-swipe in the country I'm visiting next. Pro-level moves.
 
In terms of interesting things to do, I find volunteering to be quite good. It's an easy way to meet people, it's cheap (they'll toss you freebies since you're not being paid), and because it's not paid your level of commitment doesn't have to be very high (i.e. flexible hours).
 
I have been thinking about this a lot. For me I think my ability to cook reasonably well is great. Everyone likes to have a meal cooked for them. Reading is great for expanding what you can talk about with people.

I need to start exploring different parts of the city. I would like to try a new restaurant ever week or two. Throw in events and attractions into that too.

With regard to the ways to better yourself topic, I like this idea a lot. Cooking is a great skill in terms of keeping yourself healthy and also impressing friends and dates. I feel like if you're in that process of bettering yourself to make yourself more appealing to members of the opposite sex, the best things to focus on have primary benefits for yourself with a side benefit of improving your appeal.

Social skills is a big one. Improving social skills helps you in all aspects of your life, not just dating. It's inspiring to see so many in this thread going out of their comfort zone and talking to people at parties and trying other new things.

As for me, my self-improvement goals at the moment are to start cooking more of my own meals instead of eating out so much, continue taking dance classes and improve on my running so that I can move beyond 10k and hopefully participate in a half marathon by the end of the summer.

In terms of interesting things to do, I find volunteering to be quite good. It's an easy way to meet people, it's cheap (they'll toss you freebies since you're not being paid), and because it's not paid your level of commitment doesn't have to be very high (i.e. flexible hours).

I'd actually like to do some volunteering too. Maybe something like helping kids with their homework or some kind of big brother program. I should look into that some more.
 
You get what you pay for, bro. Hell, I just paid for a month of Tinder so I can pre-swipe in the country I'm visiting next. Pro-level moves.

Still a rookie move to pay for that. Pro move is to use an app that sets your phones GPS location to wherever you want and then it doesn't say swiping in X when people see your pics.
 
So I met a new girl we've been hitting it off, talk to eachother daily.

I found out through a friend that her family is worth around 500m, and now for some reason I feel self-conscious talking to her. It feels, to me, that I am now talking to her because of he r money rather than herself.

I know its dumb and unfounded but it is how it is.

So quick update, still talking to this girl. Things are going well.

Yesterday though I went out with coworkers and ran into an old coworker and her sister.

Her sister and I hit it off, though we were both incredibly drunk. She gave me her number, and she is drop dead gorgeous.

My dilemma is that I don't know if I should text her back or not since Im talking to another girl.

Also my text game is weak, in person is good. Over text not so much.
 
So quick update, still talking to this girl. Things are going well.

Yesterday though I went out with coworkers and ran into an old coworker and her sister.

Her sister and I hit it off, though we were both incredibly drunk. She gave me her number, and she is drop dead gorgeous.

My dilemma is that I don't know if I should text her back or not since Im talking to another girl.

Also my text game is weak, in person is good. Over text not so much.

Are you exclusive with the first girl? If not, text the new girl and set up a date. Nothing really to lose here.
 
Are you exclusive with the first girl? If not, text the new girl and set up a date. Nothing really to lose here.
Echoing this. I learned the hard way with the last girl that I thought we were something more than we were and ended up focusing too much on her when the sentiment wasn't the same.

It's fine to talk to others if you aren't exclusive. I've been talking to two girls myself lately and just seeing where things go.

I say enjoy single life and don't tie yourself down unless both of you are in agreement you are exclusive.
 
What are some of the things you do to better yourselves and make you more interesting?

My girlfriend and I visited an art museum this weekend, and -- suffice it to say -- I'm seriously uncultured. This is probably a recurring theme with my dating posts, but this isn't necessarily about dating, as there aren't any problems here: just me realizing that I honestly can't show my girlfriend anything new about D.C. that she hasn't already seen, and also that I've lived here for almost 2 years and there are plenty of things I haven't done yet.

This is undoubtedly a common enough problem, and I'd like to hear what others have done.
On my end, I'm studying a few languages, signing up for open water diving, planning a solo trip to China and South Korea, and I'm trying to get better at cooking.

Hit me up when you come to China. 😏
 
Are you exclusive with the first girl? If not, text the new girl and set up a date. Nothing really to lose here.

No we arent exclusive.


So my ex-coworker said she would put in a good word with her sister for me. (Her sister has been sort of on and off with a guy, but my ex-coworker likes me more than him)
 
How to convert failed dating into a FWB type thing?

We dated for 2-3 weeks but haven't spoken for a few days over a small argument. The emotional sparks weren't there but the sex was great. I figure wait a few more days to contact her but what to say? It needs to be something which indicates that it would be FWB but not in so many words(I don't think she'd be cool with the label but she's had FWB relationships in the past but denies they were FWB's).

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How to convert failed dating into a FWB type thing?

We dated for 2-3 weeks but haven't spoken for a few days over a small argument. The emotional sparks weren't there but the sex was great. I figure wait a few more days to contact her but what to say? It needs to be something which indicates that it would be FWB but not in so many words(I don't think she'd be cool with the label but she's had FWB relationships in the past but denies they were FWB's).

Help

"Hey Suzy, I really don't like arguing with you but I love banging you. Wanna just shut your pie hole for awhile but keep everything else the same? Cheers."
 
So...improve your sex appeal? It's not saying "just hope you get lucky" at all.
It's effectively saying to just go with life and hope something rolls along. No matter how much you can funnel effort into it, it boils down to being in the right spot. You can try to become as great a person as you can become; but ultimately, you can't make people like you. Some folks are just kinda out of luck on that regard.
 
It's effectively saying to just go with life and hope something rolls along. No matter how much you can funnel effort into it, it boils down to being in the right spot. You can try to become as great a person as you can become; but ultimately, you can't make people like you. Some folks are just kinda out of luck on that regard.

This is as ridiculous as the anti-bootstraps attitude on Gaf. Of course you have a huge hand in making people like you , by being likeable and by making yourself more sexually appealing, by putting yourself in front of as many people as you can, by changing where you live or where you look for dates, by changing the particular women or type of woman you are going for, etc. Don't give into this defeatist nonsense.
 
oh i have a story for you guys.

I draw naked girls pretty much every week in a well respected drawing group. Its BYOB and super chill.

a couple weeks ago a super cute, really talented girl started showing up and she is finally starting to shake her shyness and is fun to talk to. we kind of flirted a couple times and i offered her a ride after class ( i do this for everyone, not many artist have cars in the city) she declined because she was going to take public transit of like an hour to get home and the nearest station is a pretty close walking distance.

Should i offer again on thursday and let her know i can take her closer to her place or get her number and ask to grab a drink sometime.

a slightly different note. My friend that runs the group is into her too. He also has a serious girlfriend of like 2-3 years. I told him the new girl is really cute and he agreed. He then texted me not to name drop his current gf in case it ruins his chances with her. I always ask him about his gf when i see him because he always seems down on his relationship but this was the first super skeevy time he acted towards her. I dont know if i should name drop her again and save him from himself or just stay out of it. i dont think im competing with him for the girl...

You should definitely name drop. If he has a GF he's being unfair to both her and you,
Definitely ask her out for drinks. Driving an hour to someone's house that you barely know rates slightly more creepy then casual hang in the city after art class.
 
Hi Gaf! I'm looking for some advice.
So the thing is that I have the fear that I won't be able to make contact with girls in my future. I will (hopefully) gain admission to an engineering university next year and I Don't think I will have many chances to meet with girls.
I'm an introvert, but sometimes I go to parties and such, and I can approach people thanks to my skill of hiding my unconfidence for sometime. So far I was able to surpass my fear and ask girls out, some rejected me. some of them didn't, but never managed to reach a serious relationship.

So my question would be: What should I do to get to know more girls and increase my chances, my biggest problem is, I think that I can't go to a girl and start chatting with her if I don't know her (I feel totally wierd), not even on parties. Furthermore, alas, I can't really keep up a conversation.

As i said earlier i will be attending university next year and I won't be going to parties, so what are my chances of meeting the right one, any advices?
Thanks for reading :)
 
Hi Gaf! I'm looking for some advice.
So the thing is that I have the fear that I won't be able to make contact with girls in my future. I will (hopefully) gain admission to an engineering university next year and I Don't think I will have many chances to meet with girls.
I'm an introvert, but sometimes I go to parties and such, and I can approach people thanks to my skill of hiding my unconfidence for sometime. So far I was able to surpass my fear and ask girls out, some rejected me. some of them didn't, but never managed to reach a serious relationship.

So my question would be: What should I do to get to know more girls and increase my chances, my biggest problem is, I think that I can't go to a girl and start chatting with her if I don't know her (I feel totally wierd), not even on parties. Furthermore, alas, I can't really keep up a conversation.

As i said earlier i will be attending university next year and I won't be going to parties, so what are my chances of meeting the right one, any advices?
Thanks for reading :)
One thing you might want to try is get more practice as a conversationalist. Go to parties, even if you're not suuuper feeling like it.

The other aspect I'd recommend focusing on is experiencing new things - even just simple things like dating will yield tons of anecdotes (especially the "bad" dates!) that make for great conversation pieces. Generally, allow for situations where you're a bit vulnerable. Go outside your comfort zone from time to time.

Just don't get to a point in your life where you look back and regret not, you know, enjoying being young. Have fun :)
 
Hi Gaf! I'm looking for some advice.
So the thing is that I have the fear that I won't be able to make contact with girls in my future. I will (hopefully) gain admission to an engineering university next year and I Don't think I will have many chances to meet with girls.
I'm an introvert, but sometimes I go to parties and such, and I can approach people thanks to my skill of hiding my unconfidence for sometime. So far I was able to surpass my fear and ask girls out, some rejected me. some of them didn't, but never managed to reach a serious relationship.

So my question would be: What should I do to get to know more girls and increase my chances, my biggest problem is, I think that I can't go to a girl and start chatting with her if I don't know her (I feel totally wierd), not even on parties. Furthermore, alas, I can't really keep up a conversation.

As i said earlier i will be attending university next year and I won't be going to parties, so what are my chances of meeting the right one, any advices?
Thanks for reading :)
Why not try online dating? I'm an introvert and it has been a godsend for me.
 
Hi Gaf! I'm looking for some advice.
So the thing is that I have the fear that I won't be able to make contact with girls in my future. I will (hopefully) gain admission to an engineering university next year and I Don't think I will have many chances to meet with girls.
I'm an introvert, but sometimes I go to parties and such, and I can approach people thanks to my skill of hiding my unconfidence for sometime. So far I was able to surpass my fear and ask girls out, some rejected me. some of them didn't, but never managed to reach a serious relationship.

So my question would be: What should I do to get to know more girls and increase my chances, my biggest problem is, I think that I can't go to a girl and start chatting with her if I don't know her (I feel totally wierd), not even on parties. Furthermore, alas, I can't really keep up a conversation.

As i said earlier i will be attending university next year and I won't be going to parties, so what are my chances of meeting the right one, any advices?
Thanks for reading :)
The issue is you are counting yourself out before even being there. Get there and go wth the flow, don't get in your own head and say you will have a hard time.

Go to class, make small talk with classmates, make friends, do activities together. Join some clubs, play some sports, look for local volunteer activities. It's not terribly hard to meet people you just need to actually try to branch out :P
 
You should definitely name drop. If he has a GF he's being unfair to both her and you,
Definitely ask her out for drinks. Driving an hour to someone's house that you barely know rates slightly more creepy then casual hang in the city after art class.

Now to hype myself up for the event.
 
It's effectively saying to just go with life and hope something rolls along. No matter how much you can funnel effort into it, it boils down to being in the right spot. You can try to become as great a person as you can become; but ultimately, you can't make people like you. Some folks are just kinda out of luck on that regard.
That's not what it's saying at all. Like it's not even remotely close, it's taking about actively changing things for yourself, how are you getting that's it's all luck and you have no control?
 
Hit me up when you come to China. 😏

It's going to be a short trip, sadly. I'll be flying into Yantai for a buddy's wedding, and then I decided to spend a weekend in Seoul, just so I can experience SK. Would appreciate some China-planning trips, though -- if there's a way to fit more things in over like, an 8-10 day period, I'm all ears.
 
It's going to be a short trip, sadly. I'll be flying into Yantai for a buddy's wedding, and then I decided to spend a weekend in Seoul, just so I can experience SK. Would appreciate some China-planning trips, though -- if there's a way to fit more things in over like, an 8-10 day period, I'm all ears.

Tip 1: don't spend 10 days in yantai.
 
They getting married for 10 days?

Nah, but I'll only have ~8-9 days of vacation at that point. So if I leave on a Monday, I land late on Tuesday. Wedding is Thursday and Friday. Then I'd plan on spending Sat-Sun in Seoul with a friend of mine and head back Monday or Tuesday. It's really less than ideal.
 
Nah, but I'll only have ~8-9 days of vacation at that point. So if I leave on a Monday, I land late on Tuesday. Wedding is Thursday and Friday. Then I'd plan on spending Sat-Sun in Seoul with a friend of mine and head back Monday or Tuesday. It's really less than ideal.

Oops, I forgot about Seoul. have fun!
 
Well neogaf's AD if you want advice closer to when your trip is or have a few extra days to spare send me a PM. I guess your friend probably can help you out though too? I imagine his first time to China isn't to get married lol.
 
A girl I messaged on OKC a month ago finally got back to me today. We've hit it off pretty well, and I asked her if we could kick it sometime. She said sure, but as friends. I wonder if by that she means no hookups?... Or a get to know each other. But we started texting and she's sent me like 5 selfies, she's cute as shit and she said she feels like we're going to be good friends. Right now she's ranting about work and she's known me for two hours.

Either way, she's 17 and I ain't gonna hookup with a. 17 year old until she hits 18. But it'll be fun to see where this goes.
 
A girl I messaged on OKC a month ago finally got back to me today. We've hit it off pretty well, and I asked her if we could kick it sometime. She said sure, but as friends. I wonder if by that she means no hookups?... Or a get to know each other. But we started texting and she's sent me like 5 selfies, she's cute as shit and she said she feels like we're going to be good friends. Right now she's ranting about work and she's known me for two hours.

Either way, she's 17 and I ain't gonna hookup with a. 17 year old until she hits 18. But it'll be fun to see where this goes.

Girls often say this before you meet. Or they say that they are traditional or conservative or things like that. It's important to take them at their word and not push things, but from my experience they usually say this as a defense against creeps that expect them to put out on the first date. If she likes you after you guys meet up she'll be receptive to more (whether that's in the future or on date one it varies). If she wasn't trying to date why would she be on a dating site? I would recommend you don't entertain her and her ranting about work or anything else though before you actually know her. Sounds like a waste of time.

Edit: also to be clear I'm not recommending hooking up with 17 year old if she's down for it on the first date. I'm saying in general girls say that they won't hook up so that they don't appear "slutty" or so guys don't expect too much.
 
Girls often say this before you meet. Or they say that they are traditional or conservative or things like that. It's important to take them at their word and not push things, but from my experience they usually say this as a defense against creeps that expect them to put out on the first date. If she likes you after you guys meet up she'll be receptive to more (whether that's in the future or on date one it varies). If she wasn't trying to date why would she be on a dating site? I would recommend you don't entertain her and her ranting about work or anything else though before you actually know her. Sounds like a waste of time.

Edit: also to be clear I'm not recommending hooking up with 17 year old if she's down for it on the first date. I'm saying in general girls say that they won't hook up so that they don't appear "slutty" or so guys don't expect too much.
We're talking on the phone talking about anime, video games, TV series and other stuff right now. I was not expecting this to happen this quickly. But I'll take your advice in mind.
 
22. 23 in two weeks.
And she's 18 a week after.

She just said she wants to go to sleep, but she said she also wants to talk to me. This is going too well.

She just asked why I can't come over and talk her to sleep instead of being on the phone.

That age gap seems fine. Just be careful.
Also come up with a lame excuse about why you can't see her. Being in a 17yr olds bedroom seems like a bad idea. Unless that is legal in your country
 
I would tell her to hit you up when she's 18. You're gonna be doing shit like telling her lullabies for weeks before you even see her, seems like a waste of time to me. Also she did take a month to get back to you. She may just be looking for self esteem boost and might have burned out other people higher up on her list.
 
We talked til about 6am. She kept saying stuff like, "Why do you keep making me laugh" "Why do you have to be so interesting" etc. and as she was hanging up she told me she was only expecting to talk for about 10 minutes, but I'm too awesome and funny and kept her for 2 hours. I dunno, but in the least I do need a friend out here anyway. I've had 0 social life since I moved to CO.
 
This seems all wrong. Not just the age thing, but it sounds like a friendship, not a romantic relationship. Live and learn, bro. I'd like to be wrong, but i don't think I am.
 
I've got three dates with three different women lined up from tomorrow to Saturday. I'm terrible at dating multiple women at the same time. I know this sounds like a humble-brag, but I'm concerned I'm stretching myself too thin. I'm expecting a Frasier-level disaster at this point.

Anyone who's done this, reassure me!
 
It's all good if it stays a friendship. I have no problem moving past that part. I am perfectly content with that, I'm still trying to figure my own stuff out. I mean, and she said Dark Souls was too slow for her- c'mon that right there is a red flag.
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I don't really have that much of a problem with that age gap tbh, though if you're American I would definitely tell you to be careful. Don't want you to destroy your future over a girl. I'd personally find it a bit weird to seriously date a chick who still hasn't finished high school yet though. Also, like other people here I definitely think that it seems like she's been dating other people off OkCupid and things didn't work out between them, so you might be her 'backup' option. Also she called you a friend, so I don't think she's interested in sleeping with you anyway. Very unlikely that she'll end up hooking up with you.

Also, Meetup.com girl finally got back to me. She says that she 'completely missed my message' and that she was sorry but she had plans on Thursday ( I wanted to take her out for a drink on that day). Not sure if you can completely miss a message though.
 
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