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Np. Was gonna pm you but it looks like we're all friends again.

Fortune favors the bold! I was wishy washy the other night with a girl I had met, and didn't ask her to come back to my place. Fast forward to last night, we met up, she came over and all was well. Just needed to be assertive and cool.
 
There a cute girl working at the book Shop. I'm not sure how to break ice. I went forward and hit on an optician 6 months ago but I knew she was new in town so I worked that angle.

I'm not sure how to really break ice with a girl without context. Is simply asking for book recommandation and try to talk from there will be too obvious?
 
Np. Was gonna pm you but it looks like we're all friends again.

Fortune favors the bold! I was wishy washy the other night with a girl I had met, and didn't ask her to come back to my place. Fast forward to last night, we met up, she came over and all was well. Just needed to be assertive and cool.

Thanks, I've been a bit bold right now:

I just asked out a girl online : she sent me a first message (a smiley heart), I replied, she basically ignored my long ass reply and asked me instead "yeah personally I'd like to settle with a nice geek ^^Do you know this bar?"

so I told her, "I heard of it, it sounds nice. Want to grab a drink there this week end?"

I hope it's not too fast but she says in her profile she's impatient. I really hope she says yes.

(it's a geek dating site ^^)
 
So do what instead? Because right now I found a great person that I don't mind being exclusive to while we figure things out.

Slow down perhaps? Think about the logistics of how this would all workout with long distance. Recognize that after this short period of time you don't actually know this person that well so it's not a good idea to just be all in after date 1.

But if you think you got it all figured out, by all means, keep on keeping on bruh. I'm just saying, listing the factors you just did I wouldn't jump to exclusive and fully committed from the jump. I suggest you approach with more caution. But w/e do you.
 
Early on in dating I would get feelings after date 1. It's normal, I think, but way too idealistic. Take it slow and all that. Don't plan a cross country move or anything just yet. Maybe date other people to see if your feelings are real, or if they're just infatuation with the person to whom you lost your virginity.
 
Early on in dating I would get feelings after date 1

I use to do this all the time. Eventually I got burned out from being all in.

Now I just go on the date and if the person and I gel then I ask for another one. But nothing that happens on date 1 is qualified as anything other than a good start or a swell beginning. Too easy to lose perspecttive.

Been working out fine for me.
 
I use to do this all the time. Eventually I got burned out from being all in.

Now I just go on the date and if the person and I gel then I ask for another one. But nothing that happens on date 1 is qualified as anything other than a good start or a swell beginning. Too easy to lose perspecttive.

Been working out fine for me.

Especially sex - really bad thing to get attached over. No matter how good it is.
 
So do what instead? Because right now I found a great person that I don't mind being exclusive to while we figure things out.

Just try not to get ahead of yourself too fast. I dont think anybody is telling you not to date this person, just temper your expectations, things can seem so perfect, but it can turn sour really fast.

My first girlfriend was exactly like this. We started talking on facebook, she was asking me about the college I was in(she lived in Hawaii, I was on the east coast), and before we knew it we were talking all day every day. Everything seemed perfect. Eventually she came here for a couple of days then I went there the following summer, she then moved here and the cracks started to show. I realized she had qualities that I really disliked that I was blinded by when I was in the "honeymoon" phase. Within 6 months we went from absolutely loving each other and wanting to get married, to hating each other and she also cheated on me with 3 other people over this time.

Again, we're not telling you not to date this person, just take it slow and dont get too ahead of yourself. :) and good luck, long distance is very hard to make it work.
 
I think I agree with the sentiments of all of you. You're right that I should be slow and cautious. I have decided to focus on this person right now but that's because I haven't found anyone in my local area like them. It seems worth pursuing.

We're on week 2 now and it keeps getting better and I will spend 4 days with him end of July. I think after that point we will know if this is heading toward serious long distance commitment or not. His career allows him to easily move cross country and my career lets me visit so I think the logistics could work.

I am a little worried that my feelings now are just magic infatuation but we will see how things work out when things get mundane and ordinary.
 
Is it okay to be intimidated by how attractive someone you're going on a date with seems? I haven't met her yet, but going through her pictures and... daamn.

I know it's such a self-deprecating thing to do, but checked over my pictures to make sure I wasn't doing the deceptive angle or anything... hm. Bit nervous about this tomorrow.
 
Is it okay to be intimidated by how attractive someone you're going on a date with seems? I haven't met her yet, but going through her pictures and... daamn.

I know it's such a self-deprecating thing to do, but checked over my pictures to make sure I wasn't doing the deceptive angle or anything... hm. Bit nervous about this tomorrow.

Just try not to be too shy or nervous about it, fake it until you make it dude.
 
Yeah this is true, easier said than done though! My friend gave me some pretty good advice actually, if you just go in with the mindset "I'm pretty awesome" (without being narcissistic), you'll do well.

You'll do good dude! and yeah true haha, I used to hate being told that phrase but It works.

Now if only I could get to the point where I was meeting people in person.... Still haven't had any luck outside a couple conversations that lasted a couple days.
 
You'll do good dude! and yeah true haha, I used to hate being told that phrase but It works.

Now if only I could get to the point where I was meeting people in person.... Still haven't had any luck outside a couple conversations that lasted a couple days.

Keep trying I guess, this is the first date I've had in 4 months and I've sent probably half a hundred messages since the last. Lots of promising half-way there conversations that suddenly stopped.

Online dating really is a war of attrition. Just keep at it. It's rather depressing.
 
Is it okay to be intimidated by how attractive someone you're going on a date with seems?

Is it okay? Debatable. Is it normal? Yeah, it happens. But basically she is A) still a person B) in the same boat as you, single and C) already agreed to go out with. You basically are just meeting a good looking prospect. That's literally the ony trait she has over any other person on a first date. So you actually have no reason to be intimated by her looks at all at this point.

know it's such a self-deprecating thing to do, but checked over my pictures to make sure I wasn't doing the deceptive angle or anything... hm. Bit nervous about this tomorrow.

Yeah dont do that. Your pictures are your pictures. Don't waste time trying to find something wrong with them. They dont exist to sell yourself. They exist to remember good times.

As far as being nervous that's normal. But just keep in mind, you are meeting a stranger you know little about, all you gotta do is be yourself and it'll come together if it's meant to.
 
Is it okay to be intimidated by how attractive someone you're going on a date with seems? I haven't met her yet, but going through her pictures and... daamn.

I know it's such a self-deprecating thing to do, but checked over my pictures to make sure I wasn't doing the deceptive angle or anything... hm. Bit nervous about this tomorrow.
You can shut out someone's appearance and focus on the conversation, if you're feeling insecure about yourself. Think they're just a regular person who shouldn't be put on a pedestal. She is probably insecure about herself, too. There must be a reason she wanted to go on a date with you, remember that.
 
I hope this doesn't sound like a "congrats on the sex" post because I'm legitimately pretty frustrated right now with how dehumanizing modern-day dating can be.

Went out with a girl on a first date Saturday night. Great banter through text the week prior, hit it off during the date (just jumped to a few places grabbing drinks), and then we went back to my place and had sex. (Sex was good, by all accounts. She was my first squirter, so that was new.)

I check in the next day to make sure she got home OK. She texts me a few times through the day and sends me a couple unsolicited bathing suit pics since she is at the pool. I play it cool for a few days and then we text back-and-forth last night. I end by making a comment and asking if she is still up for seeing a movie we mentioned seeing together (prior to the date). She responds acknowledging the comment and totally ignores the question half.

I see this as a bad sign, but decide to give it another shot this evening. Text her when I get off work and we text back-and-forth a handful of times. So I ask her if she wants to meet up again when I get back in town. Total silence ignoring my question.

Incredibly frustrating. Just ghost entirely from the start or actually be mature and just say "no." It feels like the modern-day equivalent of picking up the phone, engaging in a conversation, and then hanging up on the person when they ask if you want to go out again.
 
Incredibly frustrating. Just ghost entirely from the start or actually be mature and just say "no." It feels like the modern-day equivalent of picking up the phone, engaging in a conversation, and then hanging up on the person when they ask if you want to go out again.

I asked a girl out on Okcupid after about a week of talking and she just stopped, a week later she replied back saying "Oh I'm sorry I thought I responded!", only thing, she completed ignored the question anyway and didn't bring it up again. Idk man it happens, but I'm with you on wanting people to just say no or that they aren't interested.

Keep trying I guess, this is the first date I've had in 4 months and I've sent probably half a hundred messages since the last. Lots of promising half-way there conversations that suddenly stopped.

Online dating really is a war of attrition. Just keep at it. It's rather depressing.

I will! and yeah it really is, but oh well better than nothing.
 
Any advice on how to start dating for the first time when you're in your 30s? As sad as it is to say, I've never really had what I'd call a girlfriend. I'm a socially awkward introvert with extreme self esteem issues. But I feel like I really need to at least give it a shot before I get any older. I plan on just signing up for some dating sites and see if I can find someone in my area and see how that goes. Any input would be appreciated.
 
I know the correct answer for this next statement is that it varies and there is no blanket answer. But I'm finding myself finally thinking about defining our relationship. It's been almost two months of hanging out, staying over, and she's going to be meeting my parents for the 4th this weekend. It hasn't hit me until now but I'm definitely going to introduce her as my girlfriend to my parents. Just weird to think about since neither of us has brought it up, despite some strong hints from her haha

It feels right though!
 
Any advice on how to start dating for the first time when you're in your 30s? As sad as it is to say, I've never really had what I'd call a girlfriend. I'm a socially awkward introvert with extreme self esteem issues. But I feel like I really need to at least give it a shot before I get any older. I plan on just signing up for some dating sites and see if I can find someone in my area and see how that goes. Any input would be appreciated.

I didn't start as late as you, but as another socially awkward person. Online Dating is great. Even if it doesn't always work out its good practice and you will learn a lot about yourself.

Fair Warning. Online dating can be terrible for your self esteem so remember to take breaks when it isn't fun. You can always create a new profile or go back to an old one.

Good Luck
 
Any advice on how to start dating for the first time when you're in your 30s? As sad as it is to say, I've never really had what I'd call a girlfriend. I'm a socially awkward introvert with extreme self esteem issues. But I feel like I really need to at least give it a shot before I get any older. I plan on just signing up for some dating sites and see if I can find someone in my area and see how that goes. Any input would be appreciated.

Work on your self-esteem issues -- in parallel, if you must -- as you begin (and, frankly, ideally before) dating. This thread is littered with people who need to work on themselves before they try to build a relationship with others. I'm not saying you're one of them, Blinkin. Only you can answer that. But above all else, a relationship is not going to magically fix anyone's issues. Not only will you still have to deal with your own issues, including your relationship with yourself, which is the most important relationship you'll ever have, but you'll have to deal with someone else entirely.

Don't date because you feel like you "need to at least give it a shot." Date because you're an interesting person who wants to share experiences with someone else.

I sincerely wish you the best of luck, and I'll offer what advice I can: I was a socially awkward introvert until my mid-20s. Now, I'm a less socially awkward ambivert in my early 30s.
 
Well GAF, update. So last night after I posted here I explained to her that I don't want a relationship. I wasn't ready, and I am not up for that kind of commitment. And then she says it's okay and that she doesn't want to date, that she just wants to be friends with benefits. Go out, eat something then go either go get a room or go back to her place.

I told her, okay then, but told her if it's just for the helluva it then we can make plans next week and we went our way. And I guess next time we meet up, I'll be going to her place and we'll see where it goes.
 
Just once and she still wants to be friends with benefits and to meet up again. We message for a little before meeting up. I dunno why I'm so hesitant. Struggled with depression for the past 10 months, have been mostly lonely for the same time, and now I'm finding excuses to not to get laid. As a 23 year old male. The fuck's wrong with me.
 
Just once and she still wants to be friends with benefits and to meet up again. We message for a little before meeting up. I dunno why I'm so hesitant. Struggled with depression for the past 10 months, have been mostly lonely for the same time, and now I'm finding excuses to not to get laid. As a 23 year old male. The fuck's wrong with me.
Well yes not wanting to have sex, that can be a part of depression.
 
Just once and she still wants to be friends with benefits and to meet up again. We message for a little before meeting up. I dunno why I'm so hesitant. Struggled with depression for the past 10 months, have been mostly lonely for the same time, and now I'm finding excuses to not to get laid. As a 23 year old male. The fuck's wrong with me.
Nothing is wrong with you. Low sex drive - or none at all - is a side effect of depression.
 
Is it okay to be intimidated by how attractive someone you're going on a date with seems? I haven't met her yet, but going through her pictures and... daamn.

I know it's such a self-deprecating thing to do, but checked over my pictures to make sure I wasn't doing the deceptive angle or anything... hm. Bit nervous about this tomorrow.

As long as your pictures aren't outright misleading, and you're confident with who you are, things will probably go just fine.

Everyone uses flattering photos, don't worry about that. People can look wonderful in photos, but it's when they animate that you really see how attractive they are. I know plenty of people who aren't very photogenic but are glorious when in motion.
 
I supersample myself at double resolution in order to reduce aliasing on my photos

Downgrade confirmed.

Sorry

EDIT: Might as well... Living in a rather small town, I'm meeting 2 girls tonight. One of them is being really bitchy about the fact that I wasn't able to meet up earlier. WIsh me luck.
 
Downgrade confirmed.

Sorry

EDIT: Might as well... Living in a rather small town, I'm meeting 2 girls tonight. One of them is being really bitchy about the fact that I wasn't able to meet up earlier. WIsh me luck.

I'm the Dark Souls 2 of human beings

Edit: You sure you're advanced enough to handle two dates in one day? You meeting them down at the Regal Beagle?
That's an old people joke
 
So had a lovely first date with this girl. Sbe was indeed incredibly pretty!

At the end, we said our goodbyes and she hugged me, I kissed her on the cheek. She said she had a lovely time and that I should "message her".

Good sign for 2nd date?
 
Went on another date with "Zoo girl", still no kiss, the conversation flowed better though.

Met up with another girl at a high end Mexican bar. She seemed nice, but I wasn't as attracted to her in person, as I was with her pics.
 
Anyone had Tinder just randomly up the miles away someone is once you've matched? Kind of irritating that I think I match with girls close to me only to have them go from 5 miles to 39 miles away....

At least I'm getting matches though :p
 
Good sign for 2nd date?
The only good sign for a second date, in my opinion, is when you find yourself actually having the second date. I tend to take everything before that with a grain of salt, because most people will have a poker face in order to avoid awkwardness.
 
The only good sign for a second date, in my opinion, is when you find yourself actually having the second date. I tend to take everything before that with a grain of salt, because most people will have a poker face in order to avoid awkwardness.
Yeah that's true enough. She hasn't messaged me yet, so I'm just going to forget about it for the time being. Really beautiful girl though, like so pretty.
 
Anyone had Tinder just randomly up the miles away someone is once you've matched? Kind of irritating that I think I match with girls close to me only to have them go from 5 miles to 39 miles away....

At least I'm getting matches though :p

Maybe the girl drive somewhere?
 
It's too difficult to give generalised adice on how the first date went.

I met someone who told me after the first we didn't have the spark she was after, then spent the next three months communicating with her almost every minute of the day. We eventually spent a year together, now we're close friends.

I've had dates that I was certain would be positive, only for their messages to just fade out. I've thought I was really into someone after a first date then just lost interest for no obvious reason.

Second date is when you know they're interested. Or if your messages increase in frequency after the meet. Or if they offer you their number. Etc... but the absence of these things alone isn't evidence of the negative either.

I view the dating process as a chance to engage in some fun activities, explore the city I live in, brush up on my social skills, and meet new people. If anything else comes of it then great, if not no harm done.

Of course, there are times I meet a girl and think she's great and it doesn't work out, but I don't let myself get into someone until we have some kind of obvious momentum. I think this is the trick to avoid attachment.

Enjoy it, it's a fun ride.
 
I found this really nice little French cafe on my front door step though, like you said, it's nice to explore. I hope if there's a 2nd we go to her city since it's a really nice place there.

No text back yet, but I'm playing it cool. She didn't text especially frequently before the date. I hope she responds, but if not no foul.
 
I seem to be getting luckier on Tinder since uploading another picture.

Girls seem to be responding more to my initial messages and I've got a few potential dates lined up for the next couple of weeks. 😏
 
I found this really nice little French cafe on my front door step though, like you said, it's nice to explore. I hope if there's a 2nd we go to her city since it's a really nice place there.

No text back yet, but I'm playing it cool. She didn't text especially frequently before the date. I hope she responds, but if not no foul.

I know this is a tad bold of me to assume this, but I get the feeling that you might be playing it cool in front of us as well. Your previous post, in particular, is why I have that feeling.

"Yeah that's true enough. She hasn't messaged me yet, so I'm just going to forget about it for the time being. Really beautiful girl though, like so pretty."

To me, it seems as though you're still trying to convince yourself not to feel awestruck by implementing that 'play it cool' approach as more of a mental trick instead of a natural state of being.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud you for trying to be mindful of getting carried away. As we've seen from several other posters, a lot of people don't quite have the element of self-awareness buttoned down. However, it's crucial that you also become aware that heightened hope and vulnerability can bleed through your 'play it cool' strategy at any given moment. In fact, that's why I bolded both "I hope" parts of your most recent post. In a way, you're already showing a few subtle signs of wrestling with yourself.

Now look, is it a crime to hope for the best? Of course not. Believe me, it's better to be hopeful than to become the next in a long line of cynics, downers and pessimists that expect the worst. So, my point isn't that you shouldn't be hopeful. Rather, it's to implore you to try and identify where that feeling of hope is truly coming from. Hope should never come from a place of insecurity, uncertainty, or vulnerability. When we start feeling those three things, that's typically when we start building that rickety 'play it cool' wall around our feelings; to try convincing ourselves we'll be fine regardless even though deep down, we're not really sure.

Instead, your hope should be sourced from a place of healthy, calm confidence.

Look at what you've learned about yourself from just this one date. Even if it doesn't work out in the long run, you now know that you're fully and completely capable of meeting women as attractive as this one. No need to be awestruck. No need to view these opportunities as scarce and seldom. You've proven that you've got the chops to date gorgeous looking women, and that you'll be able to do so again in the future. That's where the calm confidence comes into play.

Then, you can set your bar even higher by shifting your hope to something like "I hope to date women that are even more attractive and well-suited for me in the future." See the difference between that line of thinking and the "I really hope we have a second date" line of thinking?

Point is, don't just relegate your hope to the here and now. Let it roam freely into all aspects of your self-confidence and goals. Then, you'll never have to "play it cool" again. You'll just be cool, naturally.

Anyway, hope this helps you in some way, man. Good luck!
 
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