CrispyBoar
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Sad. Another great musician has left us. 
R.I.P., Bowie
R.I.P., Bowie
David Bowie Passed Away
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Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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Sorry, I just cant do this right now. Those people can have their time, but not today.
Accusations is the keyword here.
TJ Bennett
TJ Hooker
You have a lot of class.
SIAP. Photo taken on January 8, 2016 by Bowie's wife
edit: I see it was posted in the previous page. oh well
Days before his death and he still rocked the suit.
nocturnedelight
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The last thing I want is to deify someone, because the reality behind the legend matters. But for various reasons that article is inadvertently bait to get banned. People want to mourn on this thread. I would venture to guess there should be another, complimentary thread, exploring things such as this, though I bet it still will become a minefield rather than an exploration of things.
Most critics seem to lambast his androgyny, effeminacy, and his support of Gay and Black communities. So then you drop this as if it was fact, and tell people to be considered and have empathy for why people are being critical. Honestly, where do you get off?
Ignatz Mouse
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One of them seems pretty well-known, the other one seems bogus (as she said Bowie told her he ad AIDS when he did not).
I really appreciate when you post, and it's important to acknowledge when a hero figure did bad shit, but bringing up something incredibly controversial like past dismissed rape accusations during a mourning period for someone a whole lot of people love seems like a recipe for disaster and further poison people's attitudes about social justice on the web.
teruterubozu
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Those linked accusations are highly suspect. Victim claims she got AIDS from David Bowie? What?
Melchiah
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"Miss Negativity" indeed.
The predictability of it is amusing to me, I suppose. I figure there's at least a few souls on OT who will share the writer's sentiment too. Edit: See, proven correct a handful of posts later!
kylecoley182
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i really wanted him to do a James Bond song
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cel...ift-for-fans-in-carefully-planned-finale.html
Not sure if posted but it seems likely, and if so it makes it all the more saddening. (Sorry tried to quote it but mobile is messing up.)
Not sure if posted but it seems likely, and if so it makes it all the more saddening. (Sorry tried to quote it but mobile is messing up.)
KenzinFive
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Yup. The first case they mention had Bowie cleared by a jury and the accuser said Bowie told her he was gonna give her AIDS (this was back in the 80s), which is ridiculous considering how much longer Bowie lived. The other case is an interview with a former teenage groupie from the 1970s who said she lost her virginity to Bowie when she was 15 and later became Jimmy Page's "girlfriend" at the same age. Super troublesome, but she talks about how much she loved it. Which is...weird. Things were different in the 70s, especially in the coked-up rock scene.
SerArthurDayne
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I don't need as I have most of this already. I can't afford. But did it anyways.
Thanks for the heads up.
Melchiah
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On a side note, the naysayers always surface in the social media like clockwork in these kind of occasions. Seems like some people just want to show their discontent when people are paying homage to something.
Zombie James
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Talk about wrong time and place.
One of the greatest musicians of all time and an icon. His new record is an unprecedented work of art and without a doubt one of his greatest. To record something like that when you know you're dying... what a magnificent and melancholic parting gift. Rest in peace, legend.
neurochasm
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Warren Zevon did the same with The Wind. He recorded it after finding out he was terminal.
BobbyRobby
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I'll never get the people who look at someone's passing and think, "how can I make this about me? And my agenda?"
We lost an amazing artist.
We lost an amazing artist.
Have a word with yourself, mate.
Discotheque
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that recent 3-cd compilation bowie released sounds interesting. goes in reverse chronological order of his whole career. i think i might get that.
scust at only 3 songs off the berlin trilogy though.
scust at only 3 songs off the berlin trilogy though.
This is going on down the road from me right now. Bowie was born in Brixton and now everyone's come out to party in his name.
Roadblock
Vids & pics: http://www.lbc.co.uk/rip-starman-brixton-street-party-celebrates-bowie-122972
1,000 people in the street, soundsystems playing bowie, everyone singing along. wish I was there.
Roadblock
Vids & pics: http://www.lbc.co.uk/rip-starman-brixton-street-party-celebrates-bowie-122972
1,000 people in the street, soundsystems playing bowie, everyone singing along. wish I was there.
Whole dissertations should be written regarding the impact of the 60's and 70's rock culture on rape and sexual assault.
But have some empathy and common sense, too, that we cannot possibly have this rational and important conversation right here, right now, in this thread.
I'm not trying to censor or "cancel out" anyone's posts, by any means. If anyone feels this is the right time and the right place, go for it and try to get the conversation started.
I simply don't see how trying to do it at a moment of weakness, mourning, and ultimately irrationality is productive.
I agree with one point of the posted article, 100%: Abused people shouldn't "wait" for their turn to speak. We should have started speaking about this yesterday. Not today, because someone died. Yesterday, because it's important. You diminish its importance by tying it to a person's death.
But have some empathy and common sense, too, that we cannot possibly have this rational and important conversation right here, right now, in this thread.
I'm not trying to censor or "cancel out" anyone's posts, by any means. If anyone feels this is the right time and the right place, go for it and try to get the conversation started.
I simply don't see how trying to do it at a moment of weakness, mourning, and ultimately irrationality is productive.
I agree with one point of the posted article, 100%: Abused people shouldn't "wait" for their turn to speak. We should have started speaking about this yesterday. Not today, because someone died. Yesterday, because it's important. You diminish its importance by tying it to a person's death.
Krappadizzle
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Labyrinth was part of my childhood. I watched the VHS so much. Great artist.
Plasticine
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Pretty gross to post this. Accusation does not equal guilt. When the rape charges were brought before a grand jury, they were summarily dismissed and never presented again by the prosecutor. He also provided blood samples that proved he didn't have AIDS in the civil case. But I guess that doesn't matter.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Immortality status: negative.
Well, I guess we're not going to have that then. Back to living the life you got, everyone.
RIP Major Tom.
Well, I guess we're not going to have that then. Back to living the life you got, everyone.
RIP Major Tom.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Lady Stardust himself, Marc Bolan.
Lady Stardust is possibly my favorite Bowie track, period.
Well, that's something I suppose. Still hurts though.
That's beautiful
StopMakingSense
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FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Fucking garbage
I've made some breakfast and coffee
Look out my window and what do I see
A crack in the sky
and a hand reaching down to me
All the nightmares came today
And it looks as though they're
here to stay
Please see:
Also if you really feel that strongly about it and somehow have actual evidence or proof no one else seems to have make a separate thread about it. At absolute best linking that in this thread is in incredibly poor taste. That "article" doesn't even have any actual substance to it either, clickbait at it's finest.
Oh, just fuck off! A guy died and instantly the wheels are in motion to make it about yourself and your cause. And based on nothing more than 30+ year old accusations, one of which was cleared in a court of law. What do you hope to gain from this? Please tell me what your end goal is in posting this?
Kuro Madoushi
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Well deserved.
Oh My God.
The packaging of the vinyl release of Blackstar is just sublime and chilling.
There are quotes everywhere, everything is black, somber, and reflective, and yet somehow peaceful. There's also a nice and big 20+ page booklet with lyrics and additional photos.
Easy to say in retrospect, I know, but it genuinely feels like a will now, a personal diary I maybe shouldn't have. It's weird.
The packaging of the vinyl release of Blackstar is just sublime and chilling.
There are quotes everywhere, everything is black, somber, and reflective, and yet somehow peaceful. There's also a nice and big 20+ page booklet with lyrics and additional photos.
Easy to say in retrospect, I know, but it genuinely feels like a will now, a personal diary I maybe shouldn't have. It's weird.
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