Deadpool Sequel Reportedly In The Works

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JdFoX187 said:
So the tracking reported in the very OP of this thread is wrong and Zoolander will do better? Think about that.
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I thought about it and I'd rather Deadpool make a ton of money if its as good as its sounding. As I said I didn't care for the original Zoolander but it seems to have a fairly big nostalgic fanbase for it. Those tracking groups have been wrong on many things before and will be again.
 
HStallion said:
Is this a serious post? Zoolander is a known property for one and while I didn't care for the original movie a lot of other people seemed to love it. I'd say it has much greater potential to do well than Deadpool for a variety of reasons.
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Zoolander made 45 million total ....
 
HStallion said:
Is this a serious post? Zoolander is a known property for one and while I didn't care for the original movie a lot of other people seemed to love it. I'd say it has much greater potential to do well than Deadpool for a variety of reasons.
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Known property, sure.

Recent property, no way.

The original came out in 2001.

15 years ago.

It's not Star Wars.

I liked ZL, but the buzz has clearly been on DP.. I've barely seen any advertising for ZL.
 
Liam Neeson as Cable please. Just whiten his hair up.

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RBelong2Us said:
Zoolander made 45 million total ....
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I've seen sequels to meh movies come out long after the original and clean up more than I've seen Ryan Reynolds have a major hit. I'm not stretching to make this assumption but R rated flicks of niche comicbook properties would have more of an issue making some serious dough compared to a Ben Stiller, Will Farrell and Owen Wilson sequel to a fairly well remembered comedy.

You might not agree and the box office trackers don't either but just my thoughts on the match up. Also they murder Justin Bieber in Zoolander 2 and that might bring in crowds by itself.
 
This is just one (AMC) theater chain's pre-sales which should give some perspective..

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boxofficetheory said:
From what I gather, that's all of AMC locations since they've had 344 locations as of July 2015 and Rallax was saying the chain he worked for got bought out by them a couple months ago. AMC only accounts for 6% of theaters in the US but there are nearly 5,500 theaters in the US. Deadpool is probably only going to get 3,900 theaters or so and less for previews, so let's assume there will be 3k theaters doing Thursday shows for Deadpool. 358 theaters would account for 12%. Assuming Regal uses all 565 locations, they account for 19% of theaters for previews. The ratio of AMC theaters to Regal theaters is basically 3 to 5; under that ratio Regal has sold $2,381,908 in presales. Combined they've sold $3,811,054. If this can match Ant-Man's previews that would be great since this isn't the summer. A 70M 4 day isn't out of the question.
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Zoolander 2: Assuming AMC has 358 theaters, they aren't using 7. That equals 2% of their locations. If Regal doesn't use 2% of their theaters, that's 554 out of 565 locations. Putting in the 3 to 5 ratio, Regal has sold $84,141 in presales. Combined they're $134,626. 
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Looking at preview show times in OC. Deadpool has 105 show times, Zoolander has 52 and HTBS has 65. Ant-Man finished with 156 show times the day of release. Deadpool is selling well in IMAX, normal screens are okay. Deadpool is 2D only by the looks of it, thought Fox would have done a post conversion but looks like it is IMAX 2D and normal 2D.
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There's evidence that the film is reaching beyond the fanboy set. Advance ticket sales have been strong, with Fandango reporting that "Deadpool" has been its top seller this month. It's currently out-pacing "Ant-Man" at a similar point in its sales cycle. That Marvel summer release opened to $57.2 million over its first three days.
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It's not just tracker's saying it's doing good.. this shows clearly theater chains are buying into the buzz on DP, and giving ZL third best treatment. They don't just hand out theaters so they can stay empty. Which is why theater allocation is an interesting sign.
 
Herbs said:
Liam Neeson as Cable please. Just whiten his hair up.
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Holy shit, I never knew this would work, but it's amazing casting. I'm now going to be disappointed when Cable is someone other than Liam Neeson.

HStallion said:
I've seen sequels to meh movies come out long after the original and clean up more than I've seen Ryan Reynolds have a major hit. I'm not stretching to make this assumption but R rated flicks of niche comicbook properties would have more of an issue making some serious dough compared to a Ben Stiller, Will Farrell and Owen Wilson sequel to a fairly well remembered comedy.

You might not agree and the box office trackers don't either but just my thoughts on the match up. Also they murder Justin Bieber in Zoolander 2 and that might bring in crowds by itself.
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Dude, you're honestly saying this a year after Kingsman came out during this same release window and cleaned up at the box office. It was an R rated film based off a niche comic book and made more than $128M domestically. It didn't have Ryan Reynolds. Instead, it had Colin fucking Firth. Who the hell thought he could headline a movie like that?

Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson haven't been box office draws in years. Stiller's biggest movies are the Night at the Museum films. Wilson has been slumming for years. Will Ferrel has had more bombs than successes as of late.

There's no way you can honestly say -- in this day and age -- a Deadpool movie will be less successful than a niche sequel to a 15-year-old niche comedy.
 
I like the idea of Deadpool basically having 4th wall breaking black bars & deadpool heads & bleeps when he's in an X-Men/X-Force movie, and him calling attention to it like "Oh. Oh yeah. X-movie, not my movie. Can't sell merch to the kids"
 
JdFoX187 said:
Holy shit, I never knew this would work, but it's amazing casting. I'm now going to be disappointed when Cable is someone other than Liam Neeson.


Dude, you're honestly saying this a year after Kingsman came out during this same release window and cleaned up at the box office. It was an R rated film based off a niche comic book and made more than $128M domestically. It didn't have Ryan Reynolds. Instead, it had Colin fucking Firth. Who the hell thought he could headline a movie like that?

Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson haven't been box office draws in years. Stiller's biggest movies are the Night at the Museum films. Wilson has been slumming for years. Will Ferrel has had more bombs than successes as of late.

There's no way you can honestly say -- in this day and age -- a Deadpool movie will be less successful than a niche sequel to a 15-year-old niche comedy.
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Going to blow your mind and say yes I can believe that. Though seeing those presale tickets I could see Deadpool taking number 1.
 
JdFoX187 said:
Then you're not using any sort of logic to back up your beliefs other than anecdotal evidence. Good to know.
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You already read my logic. I already said most of my original thoughts on the matter were anecdotal and I stated my thoughts on the rest and I could bring up movies like Watchmen under performing in the long run but having a decent opening for an R rated niche comic property.

Though I will say it looks like Deadpool will grab a number 1 spot so I guess it's moot at this point.
 
I can't see an X-Force movie without Domino.

Who would even play Fantomex on the off-chance he made it in? Vincent Cassell?
 
I'd love A Deadpool cameo in The Infinity War movies. Maybe during the inevitable scene of all the heroes and everyone else advancing to take the battle to Thanos and as its cutting to everyone's war face one after another then it cuts to Deadpool drinking a Margarita on a tropical beach as if nothing is up.
 
HStallion said:
I'd love A Deadpool cameo in The Infinity War movies. Maybe during the inevitable scene of all the heroes and everyone else advancing to take the battle to Thanos and as its cutting to everyone's war face one after another then it cuts to Deadpool drinking a Margarita on a tropical beach as if nothing is up.
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Deadpool is Fox bruh.
 
Jarmel said:
Deadpool is tracking for a $65 million weekend? What the hell.
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A lot of people are Deadpool fans. Some even feel Ryan Reynolds is perfect for the role. That plus RR pushing for an R-rating for the film/tone to be "correct"/in line with the comic is why people are lining up.

Mariolee said:
Deadpool is Fox bruh.
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Still could work if Fox/Marvel played ball and even maybe a X-men in MCU cross-over/oversight from Marvel with Fox getting the profits.
 
HStallion said:
I'd love A Deadpool cameo in The Infinity War movies. Maybe during the inevitable scene of all the heroes and everyone else advancing to take the battle to Thanos and as its cutting to everyone's war face one after another then it cuts to Deadpool drinking a Margarita on a tropical beach as if nothing is up.
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I would work best if was the post credits scene .... Deadpool out of nowhere being like "HEY .... what ? wrong studios ... sorry"
 
HStallion said:
I've seen sequels to meh movies come out long after the original and clean up more than I've seen Ryan Reynolds have a major hit. I'm not stretching to make this assumption but R rated flicks of niche comicbook properties would have more of an issue making some serious dough compared to a Ben Stiller, Will Farrell and Owen Wilson sequel to a fairly well remembered comedy.

You might not agree and the box office trackers don't either but just my thoughts on the match up. Also they murder Justin Bieber in Zoolander 2 and that might bring in crowds by itself.
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You have given absolutely no reason why Zoolander will make more money . It's niche man, Zoolander never was big it just had a nice following , it's not a big movie. This movie isn't being carried by Ryan Reynolds name , it's the character , marketing, and tone.


I guarantee Deadpool will make double what Zoolander 2 makes .
 
RBelong2Us said:
You have given absolutely no reason why Zoolander will make more money . It's niche man, Zoolander never was big it just had a nice following , it's not a big movie. This movie isn't being carried by Ryan Reynolds name , it's the character , marketing, and tone.


I guarantee Deadpool will make double what Zoolander 2 makes .
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I gave several reasons as to why I thought Zoolander 2 could make a lot money, some jokingly of course but I spelled them for fairly clearly. You disagreed and that's fine but I gave my reasons and in fact you used very similar reasoning against me such as the whole its niche thing.

I also said in the very post you quoted that Deadpool would come in number 1 so I'm not even sure what you are getting at with this.
 
RBelong2Us said:
So if this makes gangbusters as an R rating they are all of a sudden gonna switch the tone to PG-13?
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"We made a lot with an R rating... but we could make SO MUCH MORE with a PG-13 rating"


BronsonLee said:
I mean, they COULD Robocop it, but it seems highly unlikely.
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we'll see. if the second movie is an R and underperforms (meaning it doesn't handily beat the first) the 3rd will be PG-13
 
Hopefully the turnaround is really quick too... they greenlit the script and everything done within a year I think. (they also had a script/screenplay ready to go though...)
 
davepoobond said:
"We made a lot with an R rating... but we could make SO MUCH MORE with a PG-13 rating"




we'll see. if the second movie is an R and underperforms (meaning it doesn't handily beat the first) the 3rd will be PG-13
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I think if this was pg-13 it would've tanked and had no pull. The whole movie is marketed raunchy and has exploded due to it. Heck the R rated trailer is the more recognizable trailer.

Would have looked by the numbers.
 
Currygan said:
I think they're being a little too optimistic about this movie
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I think they are trying to pull a Netflix-ish move here, like when they annonce a series has been renewed even before the premiere, to create even more hype.

On the other hand, anything will look promising after that FF reboot.
 
Jason Frost said:
Don't forget guys, FOX wanted to do a Fant4stic sequel too.

Look what happened...

:(
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Different situations. They wanted to make a Fant4stic sequel months ahead of the movie's release.

For Deadpool, it's the week of the movie's release, after a decent number of reviews have already come in, and the movie is tracking well box office wise.
 
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