You think he has the permission to give that info out?
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Destiny: Only one area per planet
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You think he has the permission to give that info out?
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
The inanity of this thread is hitting its zenith in true gaf style.
Because even if they do that, people have apparently already decided exactly how long each of those mission types will take and will be disappointed no matter what Bungie says. If they try to put a hours played count to any of it (like "doing just the core story missions and nothing else will take x amount of time") half of the people here wouldn't believe them anyway, or day one someone would do it in slightly less time and point to that and cry foul. Hell, look at all of the people in this thread already completely assuming that they're going to nickel and dime us on nonstop paid DLC for years. It's a complete lose-lose for them here.
Would it really suffice? For real? This thread is a gong show.
What would have to be said to make the entirety of this thread and all of the gaming public be able to sleep well tonight and every night up until September 9th 2014?
Because if Bungie can't find that magic sentence that pleases everyone then there is no point in sharing even the smallest detail.
The beta was for them to test the game. Not to engage the incredible entitlement engine of the gaming community.
EL CUCO
Member
They're probably still figuring out what will/wont make it in the final game.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Since when did DLC become some four letter word? Sure, some DLC is extremely frivolous, but it does not have to be.
Frankly, I'm happy that there will be DLC, since Destiny is a massive investment and sequels probably won't be coming out every year, and I fully expect a typical Bungie expansion to include new single player, co-op, explore, loot, and PVP content packaged together.
Would you rather just wait years before new stuff gets released?
EventHorizon
Member
People aren't upset at the amount of DLC. I love DLC and bought Borderlands' dlc except for their most recent, which felt like they were just cashing in. The question is with the quality and quantity of content in the $60 Destiny game. Right now my spidy senses are going off that Destiny is really a subscription game in disguise and that Bungie is stretching the content that is in the game too far.
Destiny might have 20-30+ hours of content, but if those hours are filled up with repeated runs through the same small set of missions with only the number of hitpoints and damage of the enemies increasing, then that is a problem.
Then please correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't use Steam.
Does it cram everyone playing MW2 on one page and randomly places a few offline people in the mix, and then the other 16 pages are full of no one playing it?
Should I jump to that logical conclusion?
Regardless, it went a long with my point. Make your statement by actually not buying the game if it bothers you.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
The attitude that we would like to have information on and not be deceived about products we have to pay for? You're right, fuck it. Lets pr order everything blindly.
I said it appears to me that from what we currently know, the game doesnt seem to have as much SP content as its closest competitors. Stop trying to twist my words.
1. Some folks have spent 20 hours or more in the beta and not all of that was PvP.
2. If you mean unique content that you never repeat, I wonder how realistic that expectation is...
3. How can you be so sure that this game, from this extremely minor potentially misconstrued throw away comment, won't have what you're looking for? Because you saw levels 1 to 8? Because you played one Strike?
Then SHARE something. All I'm hearing is that it's not enough. We don't even know that with any certainty.
weremichael
Member
Has anyone made a Uranus joke yet?
'Cause Bungie has experience with that level design.
'Cause Bungie has experience with that level design.
Icyflamez96
Member
I don't really want a rundown everything that will be in the game.....
I'd just be ecstatic with a confirmation that there are more locations we haven't seen at all in trailers or screenshots. (but probably in concept art)
Or just saying that not every planet/moon will only have one explorable location.
I just want to know there is more than what I've seen. It'd be pretty disappointing if they spoiled all of the explore locations before launch.
I'd just be ecstatic with a confirmation that there are more locations we haven't seen at all in trailers or screenshots. (but probably in concept art)
Or just saying that not every planet/moon will only have one explorable location.
I just want to know there is more than what I've seen. It'd be pretty disappointing if they spoiled all of the explore locations before launch.
jadedm17
Member
Valid and reasonable concerns that come well articulated are one thing, the hitching and moaning from what I assume to be teenagers with no clue what making a game of this scale is like is another - atleast that's the view I get. Sadly - and as something Jimqusition has pointed out - most complaining from gamers is unintelligible ramblings of people with too much free time so its hard for gamemakers to take us seriously.
That said the concerns seem valid but Bungie has a great history of being well worth the investment price so I see no reason to not trust them right now.
Admittedly I personally find the game to play so silky smooth that I know ill play endless amounts of PVE and PVP so that's just my opinion.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Lol no reason to be upset. You guys made a fantastic product here but even I was thrown off by the early interviews and such about the scope of the game. I was thinking more of a Skyrim / World of Warcraft type open world where you actually could go off into those areas in the distance.
But it is what it is. I'll be buying the game come launch and will enjoy the hell out of it and will dance when I get my first Exotic hand cannon for my Hunter and will enjoy the new Strikes and everything else.
Only real worry is the strength of the story and the story missions. They were all pretty much repeats of one another throughout Beta. Go to location, have Ghost scan something, fight off enemies, done. Can you say that missions get more varied and more dynamic as the game progresses?
maybe they should have focused on PvE then.
also those maps are awful, if they were built from the ground up someone should be fired. then again Bungie has never given a shit about MP considering the only Halo with good maps was made by mistake.
Icyflamez96
Member
What do you mean SHARE something? The guy you replied to SHARED his concern and you felt the need to label him as a whiner. You were concerned enough about his post to label him with a negative term, so how would you not be "whining" about "whiners" in that case?
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
They shouldn't have strictly focused on PVE, because PVP is some of the best multiplayer I've ever had the pleasure of playing.
I don't think beta time is ever representative. People play betas for different reasons. Your psychologically primed for a difference experience when "beta" or "demo" follow the title of a game. I'm never going to put 40 hrs into Old Russia like I did in the beta and you can't just take that time and multiply by the number of areas. Also, I don't think something like 18-20 hours worth of unique PvE content is absurd for a game this large even if that entails replaying a few missions within reason. If it's content they want you to repeat for months, isn't it better for there to be more in the first place? Besides, that concern doesn't include qualitative concerns. I found all the beta missions to be serviceable, but not great.
Even people who liked the PvP aren't saying this. The PvP portion needs a ton of work.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
Who are its competitors? Borderlands? Battlefield? Halo? What makes Destiny strong is that it isnt really going up aganjst anyone head to head in 1 for 1 battle. The synthesis of its elements is what makes it advantegeous. BLs mechanics completely pale in comparison to Destiny's gunplay. You're average BF, Halo campaign don't have the same breadth, given the beta times flying around we know it's far larger in scope and can hold its own mechanically.
IAmRandom31
Banned
I could almost feel the frustration with all the assault rifle carrying bandwagoners when I would kill them with my hand cannon or destroy them with one full blast of my fusion rifle. Was fun
Wut
This thread
Also bungie was great at making multiplayer maps but a special mention needs to go out to Certain Infinity who had a huge part in making the multiplayer maps in Halo as good as they were, and made some of them completely themselves
Bornstellar
Member
Isn't it my right to decide the value proposition as a consumer? Having played the beta, my decision on when or at what price I purchase the game is dependent on how much unique and engaging content there is in the PVE (since the PVP is definitely not my thing).
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What else have you had the pleasure of playing?
Zombie James
Banned
I don't know what this sigh means. Are you disagreeing with the original poster's assumption that the game's years of longevity will be tied to paid DLC? Will DLC be free? Will the base game provide this multi-year content on its own?
That's the feeling I'm getting. A little over a month until launch and we still don't have answers to some pretty basic questions.
Icyflamez96
Member
Disappointment is disappointment. Most of the comments expressing it in this topic weren't unreasonable, and they shouldn't be labeled as anything negative because of it. That is all i'm saying.
This is the most disappointing news I could've imagined hearing from one of my most anticipated titles of the year. I wasn't expecting from everything I read and watched that old Russia was going to be the only Earth environment. I was excited to see Chicago and/or Europe. I just went from getting the Digital Guardian edition to wait until Bungie tells me exactly what I'm getting. How much bigger is Old Russia Beta to retail? Is Old Russia the biggest environment?
Lord of Castamere
Member
Confidence Man
Member
Pretty disappointing. I wouldn't have minded if the locations were suitably large and open, but the two environments we've been able to explore felt pretty small and hemmed in.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
I remember all the genuflecting when pennello first showed up. I really wish PR and the social media marketers would leave social media alone.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Has anyone made a Uranus joke yet?
'Cause Bungie has experience with that level design.
That Wizard Came From Uranus!
Now I would of spent money on that t-shirt
when did they change the meaning of phenomenal, and why wasn't I informed.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
Single exploitable areas? That sounds different from the destinations. Sounds like one off cities in addition to destinations like old russia or something. Hmm
Last tuesday, it now means 'currently in beta testing'.
Stealthcobra
Member
yep that's the only thing that bothers me, is that we can't go into those areas you see in the distance.
soxinthebox
Member
Not quite the same but you can initiate duels by meleeing each other.
Do you mean phenomenal potential or do you just not know what you are talking about? What about the game is phenomenal? Is "phenomenal" like how KZ: SF was phenomenal? Because there's another word for that.
Icyflamez96
Member
What does what he said there prove?
I dunno. This whole thing just sounds like the deals made with Sony extend to even using Sony's own PR tactics. Don't tell gamers anything, reveal news (particularly bad news) at the last minute, and tie up everyone's money in a preorder they're hopefully too lazy or too late to cancel by the time they are able to read a review.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
I mean phenomenal. You can look up the definition for that.
I love the traversal, the gunplay mechanics, the super abilities, the wealthy of options and different play-styles of the various classes. It's not perfect, and could use some tweaks here and there (gun balancing), but other than that I can't name a better MP that I've played in years.
A lot of the elements I loved from Halo are present here, and the gunplay in general is a joy.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
...have you not purchased a bungie game before? So much hyperbole and cynicism in this thread based off speculation, questionable extrapolation and potentially misunderstood quoting.
Sharkmaster
Neo Member
Games fun. I'm looking forward to sept.
I don't know dude. Letting everyone play the demo was pretty cool.
What isn't cool is someone from Bungie coming here and saying "lol, thats not the game. That thing was for toddlers in the kiddie pool with water wings. You won't see the real game until sept 9." Really don't like that kind of guerrilla marketing.
If you preordered something that you can't or won't cancel with what you feel to be insufficient knowledge then that's on you.
Hawk269
Member
I never played a beta that represented 25% or so of the game. Usually a beta is a very, very small portion of the actual game. I am hoping that what we got in the beta is just a very small slice of the pie, but if it is roughly even close to 25% then that is extremely disappointing. I am not too interested in the PVP stuff, I always prefer PVE and teaming up with others to do PVE stuff, so for me, that is why I hope that the beta is not roughly 25% of the PVE content.
But, if Old Russia is the only environment on earth, it is truly a waste. It is Earth, our home after all, you would think that there would be at least 2-3 major environments to explore on earth?
But, if Old Russia is the only environment on earth, it is truly a waste. It is Earth, our home after all, you would think that there would be at least 2-3 major environments to explore on earth?