The one area where PC Gaming is lacking

No NHL.....I legit thought they stopped making those games.

Arent all the popular ones ported already.....im surprised College Football isnt on steam since it seems to be more popular than Madden....the Frostbite games should be easy to port, i guess they just dont care.





I see a lot of backlash against FC.
I didn't play a FIFA game since .... 2011 or around ?
Has it become that bad ? Is it possible to play clubs & international cups and enjoy single play experience like the old ones or are you forced to pay MTXs nowaday ?
 
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The thing is that the sports game market is defacto monopolized by EA Sports. And EA Sports just uses these games as MTX traps. It wouldn't surprise me if they were even more aggressively monetized than your common Chinese Gacha.
 
I could say the same about games like CS that are constantly on the front page and are extremely popular. Seems like people really like virtually gambling with their money, I say give them what they want.
I don't fully disagree, but at least those games can still pass up as great competitive games. Modern sports games aren't even that since so much of the competitive element relies on ultimate team. Like i said, worst of the worst.
 
NHL is a major reason why i'm still struggling with the cost of online on console. I love NHL games and Ultimate mode (no $$$ spent builds only) so it kills me that there is no PC version.

Other thing that is nice with console is console- only cross play. Basically equal playing field compared to PC.
 
I see a lot of backlash against FC.
I didn't play a FIFA game since .... 2011 or around ?
Has it become that bad ? Is it possible to play clubs & international cups and enjoy single play experience like the old ones or are you forced to pay MTXs nowaday ?


Hahaha I dont play any sports games other than racing.
 
PC is still the premier place for esports. The problem with most sports games is that they don't really evoke the feeling of playing a sport.
I think it's because of the modding scene.

Why buy NHL 25 when you could just play NHL 24 and mod in stuff from 25 like the team's composition and whatever other stuff changes between releases?
And to a lesser extent piracy. But yeah, being able to just tweak or entirely import a new roster into your favorite version of a sports game kinda ruins the whole business model. Granted I haven't really played a sports game in a long time, but I imagine the value added by modders these days would be insane.
 
NHL and CFB have deep franchise modes. I can't speak to the others but you can easily sync thousands of hours into these games without touching the MTX modes. These games are perfect for the more online-focused PC audience with their online league capabilities. And that is how you combat piracy, make it so the online leagues can't use custom rosters.
 
PC is still the premier place for esports. The problem with most sports games is that they don't really evoke the feeling of playing a sport.

And to a lesser extent piracy. But yeah, being able to just tweak or entirely import a new roster into your favorite version of a sports game kinda ruins the whole business model. Granted I haven't really played a sports game in a long time, but I imagine the value added by modders these days would be insane.
Plus Madden, Fifa, NBA2K are all on PC, if they cared about modding, piracy etc they wouldnt bring their biggest titles. My guess is that they just want to focus on the big titles with big MTX userbases. The rest probably just arent worth porting.
 
Just be patient and emulate them later.

Older sports games, particularly American football, is better on older systems regardless. Football games these days are more simulation than the arcady stuff we had on PS2 and PS3. Same with racers. Probably the same for basketball, but I haven't tried any of those.

That and convenience.
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McDonalds is more convenient than a good steakhouse

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As someone who always opted for NHL on PC, it seemed that when the xbox came out, that was it. I reckon it was a combination of PC sales dwindling and the hassle of optimising it for multiple setups and they thought 'well, if you are PC player just buy an xbox.'

If NHL launches on Switch 2 this year, I will be Day One!
 
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Arcade sports games are the new arcade racing. Devs need to make spiritual successors for NBA Jam, FIFA Street and Def Jam.
 
Hot take: All sports games should be live service instead of yearly roster updates that charge full price.

And the fact that they aren't says a lot of the consumers who buy them. The people who are perfectly content just buying their yearly favorite sports game tend to admire convenience a lot, and go console.

Sure, more games on PC are always a good thing but if there's one type of game that I would choose as the last on 'Needed on PC', it would be the yearly sports titles.
 
Every single one of these games is bait monetization hell for normies. They'd have a negative effect on the platform for merely existing there.
PC/steam is literally thriving on monetisation hell with a lot of valve games, what's a few more?
 
GAF is being autistic as fuck about this one.

I don't care about sports games in the slightest, but OP is right. Not liking sports games doesn't invalidate that.

Regarding games that do come to PC, aren't FIFA games massively inferior in the sense that they're just the older games with updated rosters?

I wouldn't be surprised to learn there are small bit dedicated modding communities that update rosters and aren't interested in newer games that want money for no effort.
 
I get that most of you don't care about these games. Doesn't explain why they skip PC. I get that PC gaming was "dead" in 2010, but is more popular than ever now, PC's are much more like consoles, and Xbox is shifting away from traditional consoles.
 
Ea cited piracy and dwindling interest for NHL back in 2009 as reasons for dropping out.

To port to pc these days would cost them next to nothing due to the similarities the consoles now share. They could add Denuvo if they wanted to stop piracy.

Even with that EA will be looking at market research and simply making the decision that there is very little interest, and thus profit for them.

Niche sports outside the US. It's like expecting Americans to understand and appreciate the 5 days of test cricket that can be a draw. Or the titans of physical peak fitness that are darts players.
 
Luckily for me I've never really dabbled in sports games. I used to play American football games years ago but nothing else.

I'd rather play something like rematch but I get sports games are huge so this is something pc deffo needs to improve on.
 
PC/steam is literally thriving on monetisation hell with a lot of valve games, what's a few more?
Nothing compares to modern sports games monetization. Not fortnite, no competitive steam game, none of those chinese gacha, not even mobile slop. Closest thing is COD but even that is left on the dust. They're on a level of their own, the worst of the worst, the lowest games ever went in terms of nickel and diming, an amalgamation of every single scummy practice that exists within the industry, and very successful at it too.
 
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Nothing compares to modern sports games monetization. Not fortnite, no competitive steam game, none of those chinese gacha, not even mobile slop. Closest thing is COD but even that is left on the dust. They're on a level of their own, the worst of the worst, the lowest games ever went in terms of nickel and diming, an amalgamation of every single scummy practice that exists within the industry, and very successful at it too.
What exactly makes sports game monetisation any worse than the borderline illegal monetisation in Counter Strike and its scummy underground scene? Or the mtx in Dota2? There is hardly any difference.
 
What exactly makes sports game monetisation any worse than the borderline illegal monetisation in Counter Strike and its scummy underground scene? Or the mtx in Dota2? There is hardly any difference.
They have that all that + pay-to-win mechanics with gambling on top of that, yearly franchises costing 60/70 dollars, and have even been introducing in-game ads.
 
Used to play a lot of sports games as a kid. NBA, FIFA, UFC, F1, Fight Night, Snooker (yes there was a PS2 Snooker game), and I'm sure there are a lot more. I just got to a point where they didn't interest me anymore. Not really sure why. But I couldn't even tell you the last time I played one.
 
They have that all that + pay-to-win mechanics with gambling on top of that, yearly franchises costing 60/70 dollars, and have even been introducing in-game ads.
Gambling on top of that? Not really, plus you say that like Counter Strike doesn't have the most shady and unmatched gambling scene of any game in existence:



Plus they're in-game advertising too


People have also argued that CS and Dota are pay to win. The sweats buy the skins with the stupidly reduced hitboxes and better camo. The sweats pay the Dota+ sub to let them choose proper roles in ranked matches. It's really no different to CoD or sports games. I would say it is worse simply because of that shady gambling scene.
 
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Gambling on top of that? Not really, plus you say that like Counter Strike doesn't have the most shady and unmatched gambling scene of any game in existence:



Plus they're in-game advertising too


People have also argued that CS and Dota are pay to win. The sweats buy the skins with the stupidly reduced hitboxes and better camo. The sweats pay the Dota+ sub to let them choose proper roles in ranked matches. It's really no different to CoD or sports games. I would say it is worse simply because of that shady gambling scene.

The gambling mechanics in those sports games are literally tied in with the gameplay mechanics, not something vague like camo either, pure higher stats. All completely in game and not in some shady black market sites most people avoid either. Its to the point where its nearly impossible to play competitive online unless you pay up.

Also, that article is severely outdated, not a good representation of modern CS.
 
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The gambling mechanics in those sports games are literally tied in with the gameplay mechanics, not something vague like camo either, pure higher stats. All completely in game and not in some shady black market sites most people avoid either. Its to the point where its nearly impossible to play competitive online unless you pay up.

Also, that article is severely outdated, not a good representation of modern CS.
They are tied in to the gameplay mechanics on Dota and CS too. You can buy skins with a 16% smaller head hitbox in counterstrike. You can pay a sub to be able to better pick roles in Dota. How is that not tied to gameplay? You don't need to go to shady gambling sites for things like that either. There are countless complaints of ads in CS that are more recent especially adverts of those shady gambling sites during map load. Ads were on official valve servers as well. They're built in to CS for this purpose, to be able to push ads in the game. Don't even get me started on the in-game shop ads either.
You're generalising about sports games anway. Not all of the sports games missing on PC are made by EA but even those made by them are no worse than the most popular PC/steam games.
 
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They are tied in to the gameplay mechanics on Dota and CS too. You can buy skins with a 16% smaller head hitbox in counterstrike. You can pay a sub to be able to better pick roles in Dota. How is that not tied to gameplay? You don't need to go to shady gambling sites for things like that either. There are countless complaints of ads in CS that are more recent especially adverts of those shady gambling sites during map load. Ads were on official valve servers as well. They're built in to CS for this purpose, to be able to push ads in the game. Don't even get me started on the in-game shop ads either.
You're generalising about sports games anway. Not all of the sports games missing on PC are made by EA but even those made by them are no worse than the most popular PC/steam games.
Dude, this 16% was something some youtuber found years after the fact, no one even noticed up till then. On top of that it already got fixed so clearly not even an intended mechanic. On the other hand stuff like ultimate team literally gives you considerably faster players.

I see no complaints about ads on CS, and the ads i do know exist come from community servers, which btw is also something sports games lack.
 
Agreed, and let me add Fifa too, while the game is also on PC, it's most played game mode (Ultimate Team, the one where you buy/sell player cards) has a separate market in PC and Switch versus the XSX/PS5 versions, which forced me to buy a console last 2 gens just to play this game series because since these games just don't sell well on PC, the market is too small.

I think sport games (at least non racing ones) and Ubisoft like games simply don't and won't do well on PC for a long time.

Instead, Football Manager games are almost unplayable on console and sell much better on PC, different tastes i guess
 
Maybe the PC bubble is bursting.
Too expensive
Too restrictive
Too asinine

Sure having adult resolutions and fps is wonderful but have we paused to stop and 🤔

At what cost and is it worth it in the end?
 
I see no complaints about ads on CS, and the ads i do know exist come from community servers, which btw is also something sports games lack.
You don't seem to follow it very well then. Valves official servers were contracted out to an advertising company called Pinion. The Pinion White Label servers were the official valve servers.
 
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To be fair, most of those games are casinos with a half assed sports game attached to it. I'm not sure PC gamers are really missing too much there.
 
You don't seem to follow it very well then. Valves official servers were contracted out to an advertising company called Pinion. The Pinion White Label servers were the official valve servers.
This was 11+ years ago and thats no longer the case. Like i said, outdated information.
 
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This was 11 years ago and thats no longer the case. Like i said, outdated information.
You called the initial article outdated yet they still did it 6 years later. They still have it now just not on specific servers because you said they were community ones. I just showed you they were on official Valve servers too being ran by an advertising company. I just don't see how valve setting up this ingame ad system for decades is any better for the experience than the sports games PC is now missing. especially compared to something like NHL where rink ads would be less intrusive than this shit.
 
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You called the initial article outdated yet they still did it 6 years later. They still have it now just not on specific servers because you said they were community ones. I just showed you they were on official Valve servers too being ran by an advertising company. I just don't see how valve setting up this ingame ad system for decades is any better for the experience than the sports games PC is now missing. especially compared to something like NHL where rink ads would be less intrusive than this shit.
It doesn't do now and that's what matters. And community servers are run by random people, you can't really control what is or isn't in those, just avoid the ones that have this shit. Can't avoid them on sports games tho.
 
Sadly true, thank god the ea ufc games are mostly trash and i only care about that one.

It would be worse if ea was still doing the superior fight night games.
 
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You know when you run steam on big picture mode, unlike consoles, you only see countable games which is great. On the other hand, on consoles you see squares of mixed bag which is an unpleasant way to consume your precious time wisely, it's a waste of thought process.
 
For me it's the ability to update games and drivers/system while being in sleep/rest mode. It's one of the console greatest features to have the OS and games (almost) always ready when I boot it up and not have to wait for several GB of updates to be downloaded and installed.
 
I'd like NHL, College Football, and my #1 pick, UFC to be on PC. Or if EA would stop being EA, and make another Fight Night, I'd love that to come to PC as well.
 
It is obvious why sports games avoid PC.

PC can just mod in whatever team they want with any player they want, there is no need to buy a new game every year just to get an updated team roster. And forget about lootboxes to try and get players you want.

Sports games these days are just GAAS milking the same people and selling the same games with the title changed to tell you which year it is.
 
I watch Baseball and Football occasionally (real football not this smooth brain American bullshit) but the only sports games I've ever REALLY liked are racing games.

I was huge into Dave Mirra's Freestyle BMX 2 (RIP brother) and THUG though when I was young.
 
Are there any baseball games, on PC or consoles, that have a story mode? Like you start small and become a big deal through the story?
 
Good we don't need those trash, only interesting sport game are boxing games.

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I know a lot of folks in my area that would absolutely love it if college football were on PC, starting with me and my son. We used to play that all the time on console, couch coop, and he was disappointed when he found out the resurrected CF was console only. Same is true for those who will want the upcoming college basketball and MLB the show games. Not for you fine, but let's not assume "we" speak for anyone but ourselves..

Edit: lol...quoting others doesn't change my point
 
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