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Destiny |OT16| Enrage is here, there, everywhere...

It's one thing to not have the new DLC Exotics give Gjallarhorn or even Ice Breaker/Suros a run for their money, but DB is bad. NLB is a joke for masochists and 4th Horsmen may be servicable but is hardly worth Exotic status with heavy competition in the Shotty department and Nechrocasm? WTF happened there.

HoW only has 1 new exotic that I am aware of, another Shotgun. Boring.
 
HoW only has 1 new exotic that I am aware of, another Shotgun. Boring.

i thought i saw a scout rifle but i don't remember anything special about it

the house of wolves exotic armor doesn't look that great either from what I've seen

:|

david & goliath perk sounds kinda interesting
 

hydruxo

Member
It's one thing to not have the new DLC Exotics give Gjallarhorn or even Ice Breaker/Suros a run for their money, but DB is bad. NLB is a joke for masochists and 4th Horsmen may be servicable but is hardly worth Exotic status with heavy competition in the Shotty department and Nechrocasm? WTF happened there.

HoW only has 1 new exotic that I am aware of, another Shotgun. Boring.

347 Vesta Dynasty is the other one. But that's it, just two new exotic weapons for an entire dlc.
 

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
Most. Not all. (and even then I'd argue that those people are in the minority or either very clique) Still heavily dependant on lag and the heavy ammo glitch is just a chore/timesink. Prepare to hear a lot of 'I got no rockets' is all I'm saying.
Yeah, you have a point. I think most Gaffers know how to handle Crota HM now compared to the first week at least.
 
Thanks for the Crota CP Born2Live/Ty !!

I still don't understand how they ended up with such crappy exotics for the DLC.

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I bet my bottom dollar they didn't really understand how powerful it would be in PvE. They've seen the HM Atheon speed kills and have no idea how to balance enemy encounters around it. They tried (and failed) with Crota by restricting HP damage to the sword only but they are still in a pickle over it. Instead of letting it go and not worrying if players can trivialize the content too easily, they keep "fighting back" so to speak in frankly silly ways.
 
347 Vesta Dynasty is the other one. But that's it, just two new exotic weapons for an entire dlc.

i thought i saw a scout rifle but i don't remember anything special about it

the house of wolves exotic armor doesn't look that great either from what I've seen

:|

david & goliath perk sounds kinda interesting

Ah yes, I remember that one now. Seems like an interesting gun and I like Scout rifles, but I don't see why I would use this over a Scout with Firefly. If I want agility and movement I would just use Mida. The Goliath perk for extra armor is cool, but that means you aren't doing precision shots and why would you do that....

Edit: Oh man, top of page. *Crosses fingers to hope it passes the Drizzay mustard*
 
^^ Eyes Orthogonal suspiciously. (ಠ_ಠ)

I have 1500 glimmer and 2 heavy ammo packs..I don't want to glimmer farm...

950 for glimmer for 1 synth compared to 1 SC for 5 is crazily out of whack. If they won't let Xur bring it more often, it needs to "go on sale" permanently at the Gunsmith. People might use that vendor again!

vvv holy shit, wolfpack deflector ability :p It'll be the new debuff instead of "Presence of Scrota"
 

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
I bet my bottom dollar they didn't really understand how powerful it would be in PvE. They've seen the HM Atheon speed kills and have no idea how to balance enemy encounters around it. They tried (and failed) with Crota by restricting HP damage to the sword only but they are still in a pickle over it. Instead of letting it go and not worrying if players can trivialize the content too easily, they keep "fighting back" so to speak in frankly silly ways.
HoW bosses will have wolfpack deflector ability to counter Gjallarhorn.

I AM GIVING YOU IDEAS BUNGIE LURKERS.
 
Thanks for the Crota CP Born2Live/Ty !!



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I bet my bottom dollar they didn't really understand how powerful it would be in PvE. They've seen the HM Atheon speed kills and have no idea how to balance enemy encounters around it. They tried (and failed) with Crota by restricting HP damage to the sword only but they are still in a pickle over it. Instead of letting it go and not worrying if players can trivialize the content too easily, they keep "fighting back" so to speak in frankly silly ways.

How they didn't understand it's power in PvE is mind-boggling. Just doing a simple spreadsheet of damage output for every weapon fully upgraded would clearly show this as a huge outlier. Add in the Solar damage and the Solar Burn modifier bonus damage is laughable.

How did Hive Disruptor become such a broken mechanic on multiple weapons. It's just another example of shoddy QA and testing for things that don't require millions of users to discover over their limited testing vector space.
 
if you can still bear going through ROC strikes, you can pop glimmer items depending on the strikes while doing them. Bet you must be pretty worn of these either ^^
Meh I won't grind roc strikes for glimmer. I might do gatekeeper if there's a group farming. Talking about random things make the gatekeeper glimmer farm a lot better...I can always master the sword I guess..
 

SAiLO

Member
More space in vault coming: Confirmed

DeeJ:
"Before anyone asks: We know you want more room in your Vaults for your favorite weapons. We know how much you want it. We want that for you. It's a think we're talking about. New game features take time to build. Hang in there, and hope for the future."

Linky: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/96918406/0/0/1

By the way, another shit Xur visit.
 
They already do. The captains and archons can just warp away. Just like when you launch rockets at minotaurs 3 times and it dodges each one @_@.
I hate minotaurs so fucking much for that. I'll sit there thinking "ok I'm gonna wait for you to teleport... wait for it, wait for it, wait for it....hmmm he's getting mighty close, fuck it, I have to shoot"

Teleports.


FUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK
 
More space in vault coming: Confirmed

DeeJ:
"Before anyone asks: We know you want more room in your Vaults for your favorite weapons. We know how much you want it. We want that for you. It's a think we're talking about. New game features take time to build. Hang in there, and hope for the future."

Linky: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/96918406/0/0/1

By the way, another shit Xur visit.

So glad they're talking about it! Likely won't happen until HoW launches.
 

Shito

Member
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I bet my bottom dollar they didn't really understand how powerful it would be in PvE. They've seen the HM Atheon speed kills and have no idea how to balance enemy encounters around it. They tried (and failed) with Crota by restricting HP damage to the sword only but they are still in a pickle over it. Instead of letting it go and not worrying if players can trivialize the content too easily, they keep "fighting back" so to speak in frankly silly ways.
Yeah, Horn is probably to blame in this, and most probably the Suros (and with it the PVP part) as well.
Their awful decision of tying PVE and PVP together makes it so they can't go all out on PVE weapons without throwing the whole PVP balance out of the window. They can play on the attack / impact values to counter this a bit, but it's probably such a pain in the ass to handle that the best solution is to simply create PVE only perks and "meh" weapons on the damage output front.
 

CLBridges

Member
Thought about signing on but looked here first and glad I did. Nothing for me from Xur, not even heavy ammo packs...smh. Ehh, guess I'll take a break from Destiny until reset and once I get the scout and maybe crux I'll take another break until HoW.
 

Sullichin

Member
I hate how Bungie pats themselves on the back when Xur sells Icebreaker but when people complain about his inventory they're like "I know right, I hate that bastard too". Real convienent that he has become a showcase of the shitty DLC items. Infuriating that these items seem to really have made it harder for me to get the remaining few pre-DLC exotics. Xur could have a hand picked inventory chosen by anyone who has half a pulse on the community that plays this game, and it would be so much more exciting. The smallest appeal to players like selling heavy ammo would have made this a positive Xur visit.
 
More space in vault coming: Confirmed

DeeJ:
"Before anyone asks: We know you want more room in your Vaults for your favorite weapons. We know how much you want it. We want that for you. It's a think we're talking about. New game features take time to build. Hang in there, and hope for the future."

Linky: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/96918406/0/0/1

By the way, another shit Xur visit.

Could come any time before destiny 2 with that wording
 

Steroyd

Member
Man F U, Xur. Could someone please explain to me what could possibly be so game-breaking about being able to purchase heavy ammo every week with strange coins?

Everyone who has it would use Gjallarhorn.

Ahhh alright. Nice.

Also, what's wrong with Nechrocasm? I remember being excited about the idea of taking a gun that was shit and turning it into an exotic. Never got around to doing it though.

It is a piece of shit in every metric, useless in the cave section of the dark below which is where it looked to be specialised for (1 thrall takes far to long to kill with it) Useless in PvP it has no justification to exist, it never improves beyond the 42 clip the Aidolon Ally had over the Husk of Pit, so you're reloading after killing 1 or 2 thralls which might explode.

Not that it would improve my opinion of it at all but a 60+ clip is what the Necrochasm needs at the absolute minimum.
 
More space in vault coming: Confirmed

DeeJ:
"Before anyone asks: We know you want more room in your Vaults for your favorite weapons. We know how much you want it. We want that for you. It's a think we're talking about. New game features take time to build. Hang in there, and hope for the future."

Linky: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/96918406/0/0/1

By the way, another shit Xur visit.

Let's hope QA is on point for this update
 

Rubenov

Member
Yeah, Horn is probably to blame in this, and most probably the Suros (and with it the PVP part) as well.
Their awful decision of tying PVE and PVP together makes it so they can't go all out on PVE weapons without throwing the whole PVP balance out of the window. They can play on the attack / impact values to counter this a bit, but it's probably such a pain in the ass to handle that the best solution is to simply create PVE only perks and "meh" weapons on the damage output front.

Suros in its current state is 2nd tier for PvP. Hawkmoon, Thorn, Vex are 1st tier. I still can't believe they nerfed it twice.
 

Zocano

Member
You know how you deal with a really crazily good DPS weapon?

Don't make DPS the way to get you through encounters.

The sword stuff is a good start.

They need just actual mechanics in the game (tank/healer/dps type shit) and the more they thin out the role of dps the less the gjallarhorn will feel like a necessity in raids.
 

noomi

Member
Xur :|

At least I got the mask of the 3rd man upgrade, but now I need glimmer bad.

Anyone have a gatekeeper checkpoint (normal mode) could I grab that from you pleaaaaaaaase?
 

TheOMan

Tagged as I see fit
I think I figured out the "secret" use of the Mida and the Suros radars. Maybe it was already discussed here, but I think the on weapon radarscopes point to the lamps in the CE raid.
 

Jinjo

Member
You know how you deal with a really crazily good DPS weapon?

Don't make DPS the way to get you through encounters.

The sword stuff is a good start.

They need just actual mechanics in the game (tank/healer/dps type shit) and the more they thin out the role of dps the less the gjallarhorn will feel like a necessity in raids.

The sword is a good start indeed, but then they build in two DPS checks in the encounter (Shield & Oversoul). So wouldn't really call it progress. Perfect example of Bungie's one step forward, two steps back developing philosophy.
 
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