Ruthless_Barbarian
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Taken King was a decent expansion with good chunk of content, but without RoI you will be locked out of many things like Nightfalls, weekly heroics, etc; also you'll have a tough time finding other players for TTK content.
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Taken King was a decent expansion with good chunk of content, but without RoI you will be locked out of many things like Nightfalls, weekly heroics, etc; also you'll have a tough time finding other players for TTK content.
Everything makes sense now
A lot of you guys are still playing the game, even after these changes. You're going to buy Destiny 2. They don't need to make shitty changes to the game to make you think D2 will be better.
Damning evidence of an extended range melee having extended range.
The problem is too much damage with melee snap. The only time I ever took extended range in PvE was because I forgot to switch out of PvP mode. Now the defining characteristic of that perk is diminished. What's the point? Why not significantly reduce damage? Why not eliminate aim assist
(because that would be too hard to do without ruining all Warlock melee abilities)
Bring back throwing knives.
It was also 100% broken and overpowered. Even then, with this patch Stormcaller melees still have more range than any other melee ability in the game.
^^^ This is just not okay lmfao.
Boombloxer
Member
1) I have all 3 characters.
2) you obviously haven't played ME3 MP. If it's as good as the first, I might not play again until D2.
Melchiah
Member
It's all the more unlikely with every "fix", that's for the sole benefit of PVP and to the detriment of PVE. If both sides continue to be linked, I might just pass on the sequel. It's not worth paying for to be screwed over again and again.
Is this true of a hotfix that's applied in the game client only? I'm not sure this would have to pass QA unless an update to the actual game client is needed.
FUCK. This is AFTER the nerf? D:It was also 100% broken and overpowered. Even then, with this patch Stormcaller melees still have more range than any other melee ability in the game.
^^^ This is just not okay lmfao.
Melchiah
Member
That's because some of us don't play PVP, and the patch affects PVE negatively.
patch is terrible. are you a regular pvp'er? I can maybe see how things would seem "fresh" in 6v6 playlists and even then i give it a week before people are tired of sidearms the same way they were of shotguns.
elimination sucks now though
Agent_Tiro
Member
I played 2 pvp matches and turned destiny off again. They can patch it as much as they want, but until they sort out the amount of red bars I get when matchmaking it will never be fun or balanced.
First match had 5 red bars, out of 12 players. I don't care how small the population is, that should not be possible. And if red bars are there they should not be in the top 3 and top 2 on either team. Good connections getting punished has been too common for too long in this game.
First match had 5 red bars, out of 12 players. I don't care how small the population is, that should not be possible. And if red bars are there they should not be in the top 3 and top 2 on either team. Good connections getting punished has been too common for too long in this game.
Agent_Tiro
Member
Yeah, the damage referee that looks a whole lot like empty promises. This game has never effectively punished people with bad connections.
It should be as straight forward as a rule that says if your connection speed is below X then you cannot pvp. Or if your ping is above X you cannot join this lobby.
Oh my god, this is amazing.
Brief History of Bungie statements on Quality Control for the Patch (aka a lesson in PR bullsh*t)
DeeJ's douchey bullshit is just hilarious in hindsight. Ninjas, my ass.
DeeJ's douchey bullshit is just hilarious in hindsight. Ninjas, my ass.
mehrmantrout
Member
I was mega tilted last night as I was doing rift/shaxfall (why I don't know as there is now absolutely nothing loot wise in the game now)
One thing I do know is my Luna is worse post patch as it wasn't really affected by the previous settings Edit people have tested HCs and max range is 30m not 35 and thats with rifled/rangefinder
Bongo's QA seems to be worst in the industry. That in itself is mind-boggling.
Best evidence of this: the New Monarchy ship Comitatus not dropping. It took them months to figure out that THE SHIP WOULD NOT DROP AT ALL FOR PLAYERS WHO ALREADY OWNED KONDRATYUK'S REVENGE (a Dead Orbit ship).
Let that sink in for a moment.
Done? Good. This is beyond comprehension. It either means that there is a super-convoluted drop rate algorithm in the game that somehow factors everything into your drops. Alternatively, incredibly stupid and/or malicious developers code hooks for drop rates that make no sense in any reality. And even if either is true (which is hard to believe), Bongo would at least explain these things to their own QA. Right now, their QA is an embarrassment to the industry. Might as well not have any QA to speak of. And yes, if your game is a persistent world loot-based shooter, your QA has to test more than story missions being glitched. FFS.
Sorry about the rant, but this is all true.
Chalk this one up to yet again "casuals were being angry in Twitter because Truth". Luckily there are plenty of legendary replacements, Ass Factory, Titanium Orchid with a good roll or any of the faction rocket launchers with a good roll (tripod+horseshoes).
Subtervotion
Member
It was also 100% broken and overpowered. Even then, with this patch Stormcaller melees still have more range than any other melee ability in the game.
^^^ This is just not okay lmfao.
"Stormcaller's Thunderstrike melee range reduced to be consistent with other Warlock Subclasses
Amplitude will continue to grant small range boost to new base range"
The guy probably has Amplitude on in the skill tree.
The real problem I have with this is the same problem I had when they took away sticking people with Tripmines. That shit was fun as fuck. I NEVER once felt that getting stuck with a Tripmine or being killed with a Thunderstrike was OP broken. It was part of the subclass. It made them fun. Then they nerf the fun because they don't know how to balance anything. Bungie is so bad at this in Destiny. We all admit Sunsinger was OP, but then they nerfed it into the ground and NOBODY played it in Trials. I know balancing stuff isn't easy, but just nerfing stuff that makes a subclass unique is not the way to do it. I absolutely HATE how samey the classes and subclasses feel. How many PvP games exist with characters that are so vastly different from others, but yet their is enough balance to make it interesting? Plenty. But apparently Bungie's way of balance is make everything close enough to the other thing.
The final point is, Stormcallers has a really fun melee that was unique. Killing a guy that was far away from you with a melee was always amazing and if you died to that, you had to have taken half damage already. It was not OP broken.
I like how on Bungie's stream, they stated that they didn't want to just go and nerf everything into the ground, but reading through the hot fix stuff, it sure looks like a lot of stuff got nerfed anyway. Honestly, this wouldn't bother me as much if it didn't affect the PvE too. At this point, I'm not in any hurry to be playing this game again anytime soon, but I'll just roll with the changes when I do.
Melchiah
Member
Same here. I'll just add Zavala's weekly bounties to my inventory, in case there'll be an update that brings me back. It's time to move on. Kinda funny, that it was their "fix" that finally stopped me from playing the game.
Drive-by Patching at its best.
Subtervotion
Member
I'm all for balancing stuff that's obviously too good, but I really hope Bungie doesn't treat Destiny 2 the same way they treat D1. What I mean is, I hope Bungie doesn't change things that have been a staple in the game for years. Of course I'm still bitching about trip mines but it's the perfect example. They stuck players for well over a year and then inexplicably Bungie decides that's op one day and it's patched out. Now that kind of stuff is fine in a game that's in beta, like Paragon for example. But in a game that launched years ago?... Kind of bullshit. It's like if Bungie patched the spartan laser to not instantly destroy a warthog in H3 after its been out for a year and a half. These are the kinds of changes that really burn me up about Destiny. It has this chance of becoming something different at any given time because of a 'balance' patch. Unfortunately the devs seem to like this 'seasonal' approach. Oh well, I've gone from D2 insta buy day one, to wait it out. I hope I can go back on that statement because I know D2 will have a good game in there somewhere. But it just makes me really unhappy when Bungie pulls this shit.
xplicitone
Member
PvP is overall better post patch. No longer getting tilted by ghost bullets hype. When you die, you lost because you got outgunned instead of ghost bullets / BS like getting shotgunned warriored 24/7. I've never been so happy to get 3 tapped by pali/luna/fixer before.
I've only tried 6's. Very curious to try 3's but I hear it's a LOT slower now. We'll see. I'll take this meta 10000000x over last meta for sure. But, I wish using primaries didn't feel forced and that they just made primaries overall stronger and special used in only 'special' occasions.
Crispy handcannons = FEELSGOODMAN
I've only tried 6's. Very curious to try 3's but I hear it's a LOT slower now. We'll see. I'll take this meta 10000000x over last meta for sure. But, I wish using primaries didn't feel forced and that they just made primaries overall stronger and special used in only 'special' occasions.
Crispy handcannons = FEELSGOODMAN
royalroyal
Member
im sure people are just searching for a new meta, but i'm loving the variety of weapons i'm seeing in the crucible.
BBWCongaLine
Member
Yeah, I really enjoyed what I played last night. I wasn't getting shotgunned left and right, and I got to use Lyudmila-D and the Dealbreaker. Dealbreaker specifically put in work.
mehrmantrout
Member
Into the Light
Banned
So I played Mp all night last night. It was not fun, and I did very well.
HC to me are dead again. Secondary's are dead. G horns once again are used by everyone, only a matter of time before they are also reduced to one rocket.
Im just real sick of all this nerfing. and spotty work by bunige. Its has to be embarrassing a little for them.
HC to me are dead again. Secondary's are dead. G horns once again are used by everyone, only a matter of time before they are also reduced to one rocket.
Im just real sick of all this nerfing. and spotty work by bunige. Its has to be embarrassing a little for them.
This would be great, but it better not be like the Destiny beta including every mission for Earth which ended up being 25% of the story mode.
royalroyal
Member
lag central
man........when we found out the story was only a meager 12 missions more........that was a huge let down
gutter_trash
Banned
wait wut what? Truth got nerfed?
mehrmantrout
Member
UK matchmaking is broken as fuck, Bungies latest wheeze is to introduce people from Russia/Far East into our "CBMM" pool
Into the Light
Banned
Really, I slogged through it 3 times, and hated every minute, I just wanted to unlock the raid. It was such a burden to me to go through each story. Really ran past everything to try and speed it up
Only holds one rocket now. >.<
Wouldn't be bungie without at least one thoughtless death sentence nerfing.
The Lamonster
Member
What class of primary weapons are particularly strong after this patch? Auto rifles?
Sky Walker
Member
I tried my Perfect Balance+Persistence Shadow Price and it couldn't stand a chance against any other weapon from any other class, its ttk still noticably low. Genises Chain was decent though.
Because too many players were using that in PvP so they nerfed it for PvE...
I just read through the patch notes and burst out laughing at the Truth change. It was one of my two favorite rawket lawnchairs, the other being the new 'Horn. And clearly nerfed into oblivion in PvE for PvP.
I'm still wandering Skyrim, but seeing things like this do not make me want to dive back in when I'm through.
mehrmantrout
Member
People are saying aim acceleration was turned way up with the patch so check your look sensitivity. It would explain why my HC shots felt so shit last night
Edit lowered way down to 3 and it feels better but I don't know the game feels too different now, you're best bet is just to hang out at the back of a map. Sidearms are ok but you have the middle ground were before you could close it and shotgun which is now dead
Speaking of shotguns this just dropped which would be pretty much god mode with the current settings :d
Edit lowered way down to 3 and it feels better but I don't know the game feels too different now, you're best bet is just to hang out at the back of a map. Sidearms are ok but you have the middle ground were before you could close it and shotgun which is now dead
Speaking of shotguns this just dropped which would be pretty much god mode with the current settings :d
igordennis
Member
Not even gonna try to argue the nonsense (storm caller melee not being OP that is) that is in your post but you can sleep well tonight by knowing storm caller melee is still retarded
https://twitter.com/Holtzmann_YT/status/831599662436118530/video/1
From current patch^
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_/¯Marco Tovarich
Member
Anyone interested in doing VoG or CE raids?
I'm missing one armor piece of each set and I would love to complete them.
I'm missing one armor piece of each set and I would love to complete them.
Reach out to Highwind in Discord, He loves running Crota!
Marco Tovarich
Member
Sorry about the silly question, but... how do I find him in Discord? Never used it before. :/
Rollo Tomasi
Member
I second this, Highwind told me Crota's End is his favorite raid in Destiny. He is trying to reach 1000 clears on it. Best bet would be to reach out to him.