illusionary
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Sadly, it's pretty much just augs + inventory items, IIRC.
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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided |OT| We Asked For This
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Sadly, it's pretty much just augs + inventory items, IIRC.
Still running around goofing off, but now I think I'm starting to "break" some of the quests before formally starting them. I randomly broke into an apartment and looted it, then later I found a note somewhere else leading me to a point of interest back at that apartment, and it just auto-completed the POI as soon as I entered. I'm pretty sure I've also done this for bigger quests I that haven't become available yet. One of the apartments I broke into contains computers belonging to a main story character. This might be the case with two apartments actually, I don't know yet. One of them at least appears connected to a significant side mission if not a main mission.
I'm starting to wonder why they didn't lock a shitload of the game off in the beginning hours. Still, this isn't as egregious as the exploration oversight I noticed in Assassin's Creed III where you can engage in some late-game features way before you're supposed to be able to.
I'm starting to wonder why they didn't lock a shitload of the game off in the beginning hours. Still, this isn't as egregious as the exploration oversight I noticed in Assassin's Creed III where you can engage in some late-game features way before you're supposed to be able to.
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Deleted member 17706
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Really? I'm on Mission 12 and around 18 hours in, but I really am not feeling the cyberpunk vibe in this game. I've kind of been forcing myself through this one in 1 to 2 hour chunks every weekend or so, but I'm not really enjoying it that much. I'm finding the story setup to be really uninspired, and Prague to simply not be an intriguing or even believable location. The whole aug oppression thing isn't executed very well, either.
I more or less enjoy the minute-to-minute gameplay and the visuals are gorgeous, but the setting and story are really what make the Deus Ex games for me, and this one just isn't doing it for me, unfortunately.
Started my New Game + playthrough(initial playthrough was stealth/more non-lethal; now I'm playing louder/fully lethal) to play the sidemissions I missed(already finished now SM01 & SM02, still need to to SM06 and SM09) and it's really beyond me how this game only has a metascore of 83%.
To me this game is objectively great. The graphics are amazing(first time after Witcher 3 and EGTTR where I went "wow"), art direction is superb, characters and voice acting are good, story is good enough, the augmentations are fantastic, so many ways to solve every single mission/path, prague was recreated perfectly, the whole games' atmosphere is astounding, sidemissions and choices are very high-quality and INCREDIBLE amount and love of detail. If I was an Eidos Montreal employee I'd be incredibly frustrated by someone like GI with Andrew Reiner giving this a game a 7/10 when they basically shit out 9s for every other half-competent game.
To me this game is objectively great. The graphics are amazing(first time after Witcher 3 and EGTTR where I went "wow"), art direction is superb, characters and voice acting are good, story is good enough, the augmentations are fantastic, so many ways to solve every single mission/path, prague was recreated perfectly, the whole games' atmosphere is astounding, sidemissions and choices are very high-quality and INCREDIBLE amount and love of detail. If I was an Eidos Montreal employee I'd be incredibly frustrated by someone like GI with Andrew Reiner giving this a game a 7/10 when they basically shit out 9s for every other half-competent game.
His Majesty
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The characters and story were a major disappointment for me. While I thoroughly enjoyed my time with the game, a 7 or 8 can be perfectly justified.
An 8 yes, a 7 sorry but no (in this contex). Not in todays rating scale. This is simply bullshit, especcially considering this reviewers recent other reviews:
Batman Arkham VR - 7.5
Batman: Telltale Series EP2 9.0
Overcooked 8.25
Valley 7.5
Lego Star Wars 8.5
Might No. 9 9.0
This is simply an incompetent reviewer and/or to generate clicks, unless you want to tell me Deus Ex: MD is really worse than all those games. I can also understand a Jimquisition or EDGE 7/10 because those utilize the whole scale as well as not giving out hype ratings so often, but a GameInformer/Andrew Reiner 7/10 is a joke.
tryagainlater
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You're taking review scores too seriously. And 7 would never be a score to generate clicks unless it was the most hyped game ever up to launch but even then, I doubt it.
I dunno, distopian society, people full of cybernetics, lot's of time spent in shitty parts of town or in sewers, conspiracies and all powerfull corporations.
The only thing that different from the norm here is that the main setting is an old european city like prague.
I agree that not all of it is executed super well but i felt common cyberpunk themes were more common and used more often in MD than HR. Especially in the sidequests.
cartoon_soldier
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Completed today, went no kill first time. Might do NG+ with killing.
Game felt unfinished, feel like there should have been more. I wish we had more augments to disturb people, etc.
Maybe I didn't discover enough paths but the Icarus system didn't prove that useful.
Game felt unfinished, feel like there should have been more. I wish we had more augments to disturb people, etc.
Maybe I didn't discover enough paths but the Icarus system didn't prove that useful.
The Icarus landing gear was useful to me because I could just jump down sewers and other high places without hurting myself. Icarus doesn't always kick in but that doesn't bother me.
j0hnny_385
Member
Aaaaaaand done.
Loved it. Gameplay was sublime. Story was... OK, could have been better, more intricate and fleshed out, but the gameplay was amazing.
Full on stealth run (on Give me Deus Ex difficulty, 34 hrs total):
Goes along nicely with this
I really hope we'll get another one in a couple of years. Maybe a full on bridge with Deus Ex.
Loved it. Gameplay was sublime. Story was... OK, could have been better, more intricate and fleshed out, but the gameplay was amazing.
Full on stealth run (on Give me Deus Ex difficulty, 34 hrs total):
Goes along nicely with this
I really hope we'll get another one in a couple of years. Maybe a full on bridge with Deus Ex.
On release, people said they played through it in like 4 hours, while taking their time.
I'm personally waiting for all DLC's to be released and think the DLC and Season Pass are overpriced anyways.
SJRB
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Without spoiling anything: go for the bank.
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Deleted member 17706
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Finished it at 27 hours. Did all of the side quests and was extremely thorough hacking and looting everything in every area.
Only weapons I ever used were the pistol (EMP) and tranquilizer rifle. Most of the time I was using the quick time knock out move.
I quickly picked up the ability to dismantle items for crafting parts. Looking back, I wish this wasn't in the game, because it encouraged me to pick up every single gun for dismantling. Unfortunately, due to limited inventory space, this meant I would pick up one gun, enter the inventory, dismantle, and then rinse and repeat for every bad guy I took out... and I took out all of them. On the bright side, this let me completely bypass the terrible hacking minigame, since I had a never ending supply of crafting materials to make multi tools (and biocells). Never really entered combat at all outside of the boss fight. Never really had a reason to spend money and had something like 35,000 credits by the end with tons of sellable materials.
For some reason the same play style in Human Revolution was a ton more enjoyable to me. Maybe it's just nostalgia and standards have changed, but this game was a pretty massive disappointment for me. I never felt interested in the setting of Prague at all. The whole aug racism thing just wasn't executed well and didn't feel meaningful, either. Finally, I didn't really ever fully buy into Jensen's motivation as a character working for Interpol in some eastern European shithole of a city.
To me, it felt as if the game ended abruptly right at what should have been the first of three acts, or at most the half-way point. It really wrapped up just as things were starting to get interesting with the overall story.
Oh well, I was so excited for this that I bought into the digital deluxe edition on GMG, so I have the season pass. Hopefully some of the DLC will deliver. I can only hope it doesn't take place in Prague. The mid-credits cutscene definitely has me intrigued for the story going forward.
Only weapons I ever used were the pistol (EMP) and tranquilizer rifle. Most of the time I was using the quick time knock out move.
I quickly picked up the ability to dismantle items for crafting parts. Looking back, I wish this wasn't in the game, because it encouraged me to pick up every single gun for dismantling. Unfortunately, due to limited inventory space, this meant I would pick up one gun, enter the inventory, dismantle, and then rinse and repeat for every bad guy I took out... and I took out all of them. On the bright side, this let me completely bypass the terrible hacking minigame, since I had a never ending supply of crafting materials to make multi tools (and biocells). Never really entered combat at all outside of the boss fight. Never really had a reason to spend money and had something like 35,000 credits by the end with tons of sellable materials.
For some reason the same play style in Human Revolution was a ton more enjoyable to me. Maybe it's just nostalgia and standards have changed, but this game was a pretty massive disappointment for me. I never felt interested in the setting of Prague at all. The whole aug racism thing just wasn't executed well and didn't feel meaningful, either. Finally, I didn't really ever fully buy into Jensen's motivation as a character working for Interpol in some eastern European shithole of a city.
To me, it felt as if the game ended abruptly right at what should have been the first of three acts, or at most the half-way point. It really wrapped up just as things were starting to get interesting with the overall story.
Oh well, I was so excited for this that I bought into the digital deluxe edition on GMG, so I have the season pass. Hopefully some of the DLC will deliver. I can only hope it doesn't take place in Prague. The mid-credits cutscene definitely has me intrigued for the story going forward.
Crazymoogle
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I didn't know you could dismantle guns into crafting parts. I just sold them to vendors and got credits I never used
It's one of the DLC augmentations.
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Deleted member 17706
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Wow, didn't realize it wasn't a default option. That's what I get for buying the Deluxe Edition.
If I felt the game had a compelling world and story, I would probably play through it again with a totally different play style, but I've got zero motivation to do that.
Yeah wtf, I was confused by that too. Never saw any ability to dismantle.
No problem though, I had virtually every skill by the end, spare Praxis, credits coming out of my ass and even more sellable Neuropyzine and other things. They were waaaaay too generous with all that stuff.
No problem though, I had virtually every skill by the end, spare Praxis, credits coming out of my ass and even more sellable Neuropyzine and other things. They were waaaaay too generous with all that stuff.
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Deleted member 17706
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Either they were way too generous with stuff or didn't provide enough incentive to spend money in the game.
Shift Breaker
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Definitely the latter. I found myself collecting like, 20 credits at a time, maybe 100 or so at most, not selling Neuropozine because I thought someone might need it, but also not really collecting weapons to sell that often and was poor throughout the start, but at one point I suddenly found myself swimming in money. Even more so in NG+ when I realised that you only give away Neuropozine to like, four people. The other 20 bottles are all for you.
illusionary
Member
You shouldn't do, no - and if you beat the game again, you'll be prompted as to whether to overwrite your completion data for the purposes of any new NG+ playthrough that you might start.
lordfuzzybutt
Member
Clocked 60 hours on mine.
badcrumble
Member
God, infiltrating the Palisades bank is possibly my favorite Deus Ex side quest ever. So, so well constructed.
I'm at the part where I need to choose between Allison and the bank... with light spoilers can anyone assist with which is the best to choose? I will only do this 1 Playthrough
I've raided the bank already and it seems logical to save Allison (human!) but I've seen online some mention of an antidote which I guess I might need later for my ghost run which I'm doing?
Thanks
I've raided the bank already and it seems logical to save Allison (human!) but I've seen online some mention of an antidote which I guess I might need later for my ghost run which I'm doing?
Thanks
I'm at the part where I need to choose between Allison and the bank... with light spoilers can anyone assist with which is the best to choose? I will only do this 1 Playthrough
I've raided the bank already and it seems logical to save Allison (human!) but I've seen online some mention of an antidote which I guess I might need later for my ghost run which I'm doing?
Thanks
The antidote is in the bank. You don't *need* it for anything, but someone will die without it.
harriet the spy
Member
Ok GAF I am about to start this. Pretty excited. For some reason I got this game when it came out and decided to play Dishonored (which I had played until chapter 3 a few years ago, but stopped for no good reason).
Two questions:
a) I need to ready myself for disappointment. Is the story horrible? Somewhat passable?
b) I always play these games full stealth. But I kind of feel like not doing it this time. Is it somewhat fulfilling to become a one-man killing machine, or is the game still geared towards stealth?
(unlike Dishonored, which I feel has a bit of an existential crisis given that the game is pushing into stealth's arms, but at the same time makes it paradoxically easier than going guns blazing, all the while making many powers combat related)
edit: also it that preorder DLC bullshit (assault pack, classic pack )- should I deactivate it? Is it going to make the game too easy?
Two questions:
a) I need to ready myself for disappointment. Is the story horrible? Somewhat passable?
b) I always play these games full stealth. But I kind of feel like not doing it this time. Is it somewhat fulfilling to become a one-man killing machine, or is the game still geared towards stealth?
(unlike Dishonored, which I feel has a bit of an existential crisis given that the game is pushing into stealth's arms, but at the same time makes it paradoxically easier than going guns blazing, all the while making many powers combat related)
whatever happens I'll probably end up stealthing the whole thing I can't help myself
edit: also it that preorder DLC bullshit (assault pack, classic pack )- should I deactivate it? Is it going to make the game too easy?
I'm working on a new game+, just running around and seeing what I missed the first time out.
I think it's odd that the game lets you
I don't know that you can play it guns blazing, at least not until you get some upgrades to health and armor? I played stealth so I can't say, but it does seem that Jensen is highly allergic to bullets.
I think it's odd that the game lets you
find the plasticity calibrator or whatever it's called early, but if you go into the newspaper hideout, they're not there, and the info in the bank office isn't there either. Why one and not the others?
I don't know that you can play it guns blazing, at least not until you get some upgrades to health and armor? I played stealth so I can't say, but it does seem that Jensen is highly allergic to bullets.
harriet the spy
Member
Well maybe not gun blazing, but at least I won't be hippy Jensen that insists on eating food so I can punch ppl in the face . Those mofos are either getting stabbed or shot with silencers. And this time around I'll use the typhoon
Pagusas
Elden Member
I did EVERYTHING the first playthough, went through areas with a fine tooth comb, 100% no kill full stealth and re-entered areas to see the alternate routes I could have taken. Total was 57 hours.
In comparison the original HR took me 55 hours (with missing link) playing the exact same way.
Both games make me feel like I got my money's worth.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
I felt the same way... especially first half of the game, it felt much less Blade Runner and more Children of Men.
Less night and neon, more sterilized white and blue hospital light... where HR was an inspiring and exciting renaissance, MD is an depressing oppressive dystopia.
That said, I still love the game and within that different setting, Prague is incredibly crafted, and for whatever debate (consensus) its story has, I think the plot foundation it sets is still awesome. And, both Prague and Utulek give Novigrad, Los Santos, and Stormwind a run for the money for the most impressively crafted cities around (each has a different strength, MD's being just the unrivaled content-per-explorable-square-foot or otherwise content density that is has).
So I definitely agree with its different setting and mood, though I don't see it as a negative in any way. Just different. I still much prefer HR's for subjective reasons but Prague is like Detroit and Utulek like Hengsha on steroids (or, on augs, if you will).
Do we know that there's going to be a second DLC?
Yeah, just finished it over the last week and fell in love with the game. The sidequests were ace and the
I've got a huge backlog and I'm even thinking of starting again, and see if I can score Foxiest, good thing Pacifist did unlock the first time around though.
murder one where the witness is the killer was great. Went pacifist and talked her out of it, but also went commando on her after a reload just for kicks.
I've got a huge backlog and I'm even thinking of starting again, and see if I can score Foxiest, good thing Pacifist did unlock the first time around though.
harriet the spy
Member
Maybe 5-6 hours in and this is a great game.
Two gripes:
- it won't even display (let alone let me grab) my praxis kit for finishing deus ex go! Super minor but for some reason it's really annoying me. The accounts are linked, but for some reason it's not groking it, probably because Square-Enix members is an incredibly poorly designed piece of shit.
- The augs=minorities theme is incredibly heavy-handed and seems very artificial. The fact that augmentations are so visible seems very contrived, and presumably in this world augs should be incredibly wealthy people (even though for some reason it seems like as random a decision as getting a tattoo), so incident or no incident, the rich would have taken their money and retired in ultra-protected aug gated communities and told the non-augs to fuck off. In general the game play is solid, but the themes the deus ex reboot is trying to go far seems badly developed and poorly hanging together.
Two gripes:
- it won't even display (let alone let me grab) my praxis kit for finishing deus ex go! Super minor but for some reason it's really annoying me. The accounts are linked, but for some reason it's not groking it, probably because Square-Enix members is an incredibly poorly designed piece of shit.
- The augs=minorities theme is incredibly heavy-handed and seems very artificial. The fact that augmentations are so visible seems very contrived, and presumably in this world augs should be incredibly wealthy people (even though for some reason it seems like as random a decision as getting a tattoo), so incident or no incident, the rich would have taken their money and retired in ultra-protected aug gated communities and told the non-augs to fuck off. In general the game play is solid, but the themes the deus ex reboot is trying to go far seems badly developed and poorly hanging together.
Yep, the aug/natural division theme felt half-assed, I feel like Mary deMarle and her team (6 other people I believe) made a big mistake with Mankind Divided on that front. Just because Gunther and Anna had visible augs, doesn't mean everyone should. The next game should hopefully deal with how the world gets more gritty and less stylish by the time of Deus Ex 1. I'd like to see more of a focus on the themes of poverty, surveillence and terrorism/counter-terrorism. And the NSF totally should feature.
The guy in charge of the side quests should write for the main story, I forgot his name though.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
I'm playing the PC version and had a case where one of the NPC's were invisible/missing (but still talking to me). Should I be worried that my save is corrupt, or are these issues just part of the experience?
badcrumble
Member
I think for the next Deus Ex game, sidequests should unlock special augments as their reward rather than just providing experience. It'd lend a better structure to those multi-chapter quests.
It'd also be a good way to sell DLC quests (though those really should be integrated into the main campaign instead of played as wholly separate stories), so there's a business incentive there too.
It'd also be a good way to sell DLC quests (though those really should be integrated into the main campaign instead of played as wholly separate stories), so there's a business incentive there too.
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