SolarKnight
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The moment youll need to choose one of the paths you meet the requirements for will be very obvious.
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Devil Survivor: Overclocked |OT| - And on the Eighth Day...
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dr3upmushroom
Banned
I really don't see how anyone could recommend the DS version to someone who both owns a 3DS and is interested in this game. The voice acting is surprisingly good, that alone would justify the extra five or ten bucks for me. I said this earlier, but it's going to kind of suck when the sequel to this comes out, I'll feel pretty ripped off if I buy it and they do another Overclocked version.graywolf323 said:
I'm nearing the end of the first day and really, really liking it. All of the games systems seem really cool. The only real complaint I have so far is that there's not very many demons at the auction, and all of the cool-looking ones I can fuse cost way more money than I have to make. I'm sure that'll stop being an issue soon enough though.
Am I right in thinking that I can't get duplicates of skills so that two of my human characters can equip them at the same time? It's sort of strange how the skills work with the human characters, one character learns a skill, but then they can transfer it to any other human character, but only one character can have a given skill equipped at a time.
Another thing I'm wondering is how important the star ratings are. If there's a demon I want, should I always wait until there's a five star one, or are three and four good enough? Also, do the stars factor into fusing at all?
SolarKnight
Member
The more stars a demon has, the better itll be overall. You dont NEED to get 5 stars, but its always better if possible.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
There are three save slots.Teknoman said:
onlyindreams
Banned
3 save files.Teknoman said:
mjemirzian
Banned
Getting MC to lv 26 by the end of day 3 is very important since Might Call and Double Up let you kill the boss very quickly. I've just gotten into day 4.Obsessed said:
I've noticed that there are a couple of main story missions you can grind on infinite respawns with, so it might not be that foolproof of an achievement after all, assuming you can keep your party alive long enough to take advantage of it.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
Physical attacks must gradually become more useless I guess. Everyone's been saying magic is the way to go, but my Artsuro and one of his demons both have Anger Hit, and combined with the Auto-Skill that makes Physical attacks always hit, they mop shit up.mjemirzian said:
I'm only about halfway through the 2nd Day though.
Pureauthor
Member
dr3upmushroom said:
The reason why Magic>Phys in this game is because a Magic MC build allows you to swap out any element needed for any situation, whereas if you run into Phys-Resistant enemies, your MC is dead weight unless you have Pierce - but in that case Atsuro/Other Phys-focused party members get screwed then.
Alright GAF, help me decide.
Option A: Buy the original Devil Survivor for the DS now.
Option B: Hold off on getting a 3DS until there are more games/there's a hardware revision, then get a 3DS and Devil Survivor: Overclocked.
Option C: Throw caution to the wind and get a 3DS and Overclocked now.
I'm leaning more towards A at the moment. I'm a huge fan of SRPGs (especially FFT), and enjoyed P3P, so this game seems right up my alley. Is this "Day 8" thing worth the wait and/or the early 3DS purchase? I'm not too concerned about the difficulty...
Option A: Buy the original Devil Survivor for the DS now.
Option B: Hold off on getting a 3DS until there are more games/there's a hardware revision, then get a 3DS and Devil Survivor: Overclocked.
Option C: Throw caution to the wind and get a 3DS and Overclocked now.
I'm leaning more towards A at the moment. I'm a huge fan of SRPGs (especially FFT), and enjoyed P3P, so this game seems right up my alley. Is this "Day 8" thing worth the wait and/or the early 3DS purchase? I'm not too concerned about the difficulty...
Bel Marduk
Banned
onlyindreams said:
If you want to get someone's specific route, talk with that person often when you're given the option and choose favorable responses. When the paths diverge late in the story, you are given texts from each person who's routes you qualify for and then you choose to respond to one person and then you take their path.
Btw, for anyone playing the game, I recommend Amane's route because you after that you are able to fuse Metatron at the end (but you need to complete someone else's route like Naoya to get one of the demons to fuse him.) Metatron is good if you plan to take on the optional boss on NG+.
onlyindreams
Banned
You may not be able to find this game in the future, so B is a pretty iffy choice.Ri'Orius said:
CornBurrito
Member
Bel Marduk said:
Metatron was the best demon in the game for me. Just make sure one of the fusion materials has a trait that helps mitigate ALL elemental damage types.
dr3upmushroom said:
By endgame/midgame almost all the demons resist/null/reflect physical damage, and there is only ONE skill that lets you get past resist/null (so if they reflect it you are still fucked). So you only should have one physical attacker.
Also enemies late game like to spam a spell that reflects physical attacks.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I was wondering - for fusing, does the star rating of the demon in the auction house matter?
charlequin
Banned
Pureauthor said:
Well, that's why I made my MC Phys-oriented and then completely ignored all the other Phys-oriented characters in favor of the strongest magic users.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
Why don't you buy the 3DS version of the game now, but wait for more games you want to come out before buying the system? If you're willing to wait anyway, I don't see how it makes any difference. Like others have said, the game is very likely going to be a limited run kind of thing, and even though I haven't played the original, I'd say that the quality of it is worth the $10 difference easy.Ri'Orius said:
mjemirzian
Banned
Magic is the best MC build, but double up is useful even if you're a caster. It's good for nuking bosses.dr3upmushroom said:
Anyway, I'm on day 6 with no free battles. Haven't tried grinding on infinitely spawning enemies during the main story. It's been fairly easy so far, and I'm far from a SMT expert.
Alright, I just started this game, and I'm on the 1st day. I'm curious how characters gain new skills.
So Yuzu has Dia, which I'm guessing she got from her starting demon Pixie, but how does she get another skill? Is it a level thing, where once I hit level 10 or something she will get another skill I can assign her?
So Yuzu has Dia, which I'm guessing she got from her starting demon Pixie, but how does she get another skill? Is it a level thing, where once I hit level 10 or something she will get another skill I can assign her?
jred250 said:
Humans gain new skills by skill cracking. You'll learn about it during day 1.
Demons gain new skills by level up and by skill set bonus. Skills are also passed down via fusion.
If you look at a demon's skill list, there may be a few that are greyed out. Those are skills it can learn by leveling up.
If you fill the magnetite meter during battle, you can teach one of your demons a human-known skill.
semiconscious
Member
mjemirzian said:
i think it's a fairly easy game, too. the mechanics are explained pretty clearly, & the revised compendium makes doing fusions very straight-forward. it's easily the smt noob friendliest of'm all...
Bel Marduk
Banned
mjemirzian said:
lol, wait till day 3. From there the difficulty picks up.
So has anyone finished day 8 yet? What's it like? I'm at
day 7 of Yuzu's route, grinding up before the final battle. Everything was going smoothly until the difficulty spike. I barely managed to get through the previous fight, 'cause I'm pretty underleveled (high 40s, low 50s). But if I get MC's level a bit higher and fuse better demons, hopefully I'll be fine.
Still very early in the game. Doing it on Easy Mode.
was a pain in the ass but I whooped it just before he could
Also Skill Cracked all of the assigned enemies for that battle. Yet I still feel like an incompetent for choosing Easy Mode.
Don't have an issue at all with the voice actors. Sounds just as I would expect.
Wendigo
get away. Is it possible he could escape?
Also Skill Cracked all of the assigned enemies for that battle. Yet I still feel like an incompetent for choosing Easy Mode.
Don't have an issue at all with the voice actors. Sounds just as I would expect.
SpaceBridge
Member
Cheska said:
The battles in Shibyua are like random battles. Time doesnt progress when you play those which is great for leveling up your team, and skill cracking.
I finished day 7 and I'm on to day 8.
Just an FYI, new game plus is treated sort of like in Tales games. The titles you earn are worth points, which you spend to unlock new game plus rewards. Below is a list of titles and rewards and their point values.
Titles
?Not sure about these ones, I'm just guessing
Rewards
Just an FYI, new game plus is treated sort of like in Tales games. The titles you earn are worth points, which you spend to unlock new game plus rewards. Below is a list of titles and rewards and their point values.
Titles
?Not sure about these ones, I'm just guessing
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Finish the game once 70 P
[spoiler]Prevent Haru's death 20 P
Prevent Keisuke's death 20 P
Prevent Mari's death 20 P
Save Gin in battle 20 P
Learn of the government's final option 20 P
Protect Tokyo on Yuzu's 8th day 20 P[/spoiler]
Register all demons except those that are special 100 P
Achieve 100% completion of the Compendium 400 P
Learn all skills that can be cracked 150 P
[spoiler]?Finish the Atsuro route 60 P
?Finish the Gin route 60 P
Finish the Yuzu route 60 P
?Finish the Yuzu route (day 8) 20 P
?Finish the Naoya route 60 P
?Finish the Naoya route (day 8) 20 P
?Finish the Naoya route (day 8) 20 P
?Finish the Amane route 60 P
?Finish the Amane route (day 8) 20 P[/spoiler]
Finish the game with no free battles 200 P
Finish the game without any deaths 200 P
Defeat a whimsical ghost 30 P
Defeat an old man who controls time 60 P
Defeat a soldier of the netherworld 90 P
Defeat a Marquis of Hell 120 P
Defeat the fallen star 200 PRewards
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Carry over 1 demon 10 P
Carry over 4 demons 60 P
Carry over 8 demons 180 P
Carry over all demons 300 P
Carry over skills 10 P
Carry over Macca 110 P
Carry over auction 40 P
Remove EXP limit 60 P
10% off Compendium 40 P
30% off Compendium 120 P
50% off Compendium 200 P
Remove fusion LV limit 70 P
Fallen Star 100 PWatch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Oh cool, I just got
Also, so the Demon Compendium wasn't in the original? Glad I got this one then, because I love the background info on the demons you can read about.
Keisuke! Can't wait to use his Jack Frost and Pyro Jack in battle!
Also, so the Demon Compendium wasn't in the original? Glad I got this one then, because I love the background info on the demons you can read about.
Okay,things I might not have understood since this looks like it`s going to turn into a grind fest even on the first day,playing on easy,because the Wendigo battle seems way too early in the game...
Am I suppose to have a 4th team by now for this fight? because I see a 4th team row but it doesn`t seem like I can have them in Battle.
I have extra demons with me that I bought,and I thought when my useless Pixie dies in one hit for example that I could summon my extras to replace but my summon command is greyed out.
Did I just notice that the entire team of the ennemy dissapears from the battle if I kill the leader first?
So far I followed the main story,did 2 free battles only and I don`t even come close to beating the Wendigo fight...more free battles till then? I was hoping this wouldn`t be one of those grinding Atlus games since it`s a mix of SRPG and regulat SMT games but man...
Am I suppose to have a 4th team by now for this fight? because I see a 4th team row but it doesn`t seem like I can have them in Battle.
I have extra demons with me that I bought,and I thought when my useless Pixie dies in one hit for example that I could summon my extras to replace but my summon command is greyed out.
Did I just notice that the entire team of the ennemy dissapears from the battle if I kill the leader first?
So far I followed the main story,did 2 free battles only and I don`t even come close to beating the Wendigo fight...more free battles till then? I was hoping this wouldn`t be one of those grinding Atlus games since it`s a mix of SRPG and regulat SMT games but man...
Ricker said:
Heh, the Wendigo battle is always a wake-up call.
Nope, you should just have three teams. Each person should have two demons.
Well, you can only use one special command per turn. But maybe it's just disabled for now? I can't really remember if that's the case.
Yes, but you only get half the macca and EXP from the teammates. But for Wendigo, you'll probably want to defeat the Moh Shuvuus first.
If everyone is around levels 7-9, you should be fine. Note that Wendigo is weak to fire, and the Moh Shuvuus are weak to force, and they attack with ice. So hit them with agi and zan, and don't bring anyone weak to ice.
Kind of an obvious piece of advice, but at the start of a battle, check the enemies' strengths and weaknesses and what skills they have. Plan accordingly.
BTW, grinding for EXP is not really an effective way to get stronger in this game. Make sure you keep up with new skills and new demons as they become available, by skill cracking and by demon fusion (you'll unlock it soon).
mjemirzian
Banned
You don't need to grind if you are skilled and prepared enough. I'm surprised there aren't many reviews cropping up.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
I've been grinding a bit, but mostly just because it annoys to have imbalanced teams.mjemirzian said:
I just got to the third day and
got Keisuke. It's pretty annoying he doesn't come with his Jack Frost and Pyro Jack he just had a few missions ago. I don't have any spare dmeons to give him, so I'm doing some grinding so I fuse him a decent party.
if it works like Tales games, does that mean it also resets on your next playthrough? I mean for example, you have 400 points on your first playthrough, then on your second playthrough do you get back that 400 again or you only get points for what titles you got on that particular playthrough?Kazerei said:
mjemirzian
Banned
Yeah you have to be very frugal with your funds and chart out fusion paths so you don't end up broke and unable to afford the next latest and greatest set of demons.dr3upmushroom said:
So I just finished Yuzu's day 8, and apparently there is a missable sidequest that earns you a title. Here's the details. Don't worry if the next event is not yet available, because there are a few mandatory story events in between. But try to do the sidequest ASAP, because it is possible to run out of time.
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[spoiler]Place Action Description
Ikebukuro Eikokuji Talk to the Four Devas and learn about the barrier and Jikoku's sword. Do this ASAP (~10:30).
Nagata-cho Naoya (BATTLE) Fight some angels alongside Naoya. He'll give you a key card. This battle is mandatory by 14:00.
Shinagawa Shomonkai headquarters With the key card, you'll be able to enter the HQ and get Jikoku's sword.
Ikebukuro Eikokuji Give the sword to the Devas. But they need someone to replace Jikoku.
Kudanshita Gin Ask Gin about his demon, Take-Mikazuchi, and FOLLOW HIM to the shrine. Do this ASAP (~16:30).
Ikebukuro Gin (BATTLE) Defend Gin as he completes the ritual. Then the barrier is complete![/spoiler]SpaceBridge
Member
Hey guys, I just unlocked the demon fusion function, but I cant see where the registry is? Id like to register my demons before I fuze them.
Milkncooke
Member
You can't register demons until you've unlocked the demon compendium.SpaceBridge said:
dr3upmushroom
Banned
What's the deal with demons with the "Unique" tag? I'm guessing you just can't have more than one of the same at a time?
Electivirus
Member
Kazerei said:
Boy, you're telling me. Walking along, minding my own business, mopping up a bunch of free battles, and then Wendigo comes along and pretty much whips the piss out of me.
Dedication Through Light
Member
They could have done something with the music. It seems to completely vanished during any dialogue sections and is really toned down. Atsuro never gets old hearing.
I seem to have got stuck and ended up just giving up after I got game over from a battle in the very beginning. The story is compelling but I imagine the game requires tons of grinding?
I seem to have got stuck and ended up just giving up after I got game over from a battle in the very beginning. The story is compelling but I imagine the game requires tons of grinding?
Bel Marduk
Banned
Dedication Through Light said:
Not...that much grinding. You still need to grind a bit sometimes, but as always with SMT games, fusing good demons and good strategies (this is a SRPG so you need to figure out good ways with dealing with enemies by moving your party) are key.
If you have no patience then don't bother since battles get harder from here on out. But giving up at the very beginning...?
SpaceBridge
Member
I need to repeat, that the voice acting is top notch. Playing this again for the second time, and the voice work beings the game to life.
onlyindreams
Banned
Play it on easy if you don't want to grind. Just gives you more xp/money.Dedication Through Light said:
bender
What time is it?
Finished day one last night and in the process, completely drained my 3DS battle. I'm starting to wish I started on easy as I'm horrible at strategy games.
A quick question for those in the know: It looks like the only character that earns experience is the one who lands the killing blow. Is my understanding correct? I was using the Yuzu and a demon as healers for my other two characters but she quickly fell four levels behind the rest of the party.
A quick question for those in the know: It looks like the only character that earns experience is the one who lands the killing blow. Is my understanding correct? I was using the Yuzu and a demon as healers for my other two characters but she quickly fell four levels behind the rest of the party.