DF: Orbis vs Durango Spec Analysis
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not a fan of external power, but it will keep a big source of heat out of the machine and makes practical sense.
ALBOFIGHTER
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Meh who cares. It was nothing to do with specs. If Kaz right now asked me if I wanted to know the size, I honestly couldn't care less. Next people are gonna ask about the colour...
If anything has changed (and it does sound unlikely), I think changing the RAM is probably the only thing they could do at such a late stage (other than tweaking clock speeds). Doesn't the GCN support clamshell memory as standard, so they could double up without major changes to the motherboard - just big extra cost
i think this will be better:We have some sort of measurments now? I guess I'll have to do a new one then.
velociraptor
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As long as it doesn't have a distracting light, then I'm golden.
Hydrargyrus
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So no more rumours abut the dimensions?
i think this will be better:
Ew, way too simplistic. Doesn't feel like something designed by Sony either.
No.
Glad the dimensions are wrong. They didn't add up and I can go back to looking forward to something like this.
Good on Thuway for clearing it up too. He's been really forthcoming with good info so it's nice of him to keep us in the loop when something contradicts previous info, even if it's his own.
Katana_Strikes
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Secret Source, innit!
velociraptor
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Couldn't you have posted this a bit earlier? I just ordered a custom-made very expensive end table according to your dimensions to ideally situate the coming PS4!
phosphor112
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Here is a better google link (it has pictures!)
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130027392
It's relatively new. Jan 31st of this year new.
I remember seeing something similar though.
We have some sort of measurments now? I guess I'll have to do a new one then.
are these images based on any information, or just pure speculation?
BruiserBear
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Pure speculation.
Those measurements were obviously bullcrap. Just forget about it.
This. No need to beat yourself up over it, thuway.
Insane Metal
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Yeah, completely winging it.
Yea, I do remember them making some slight changes to the Vita since the Playstation Meeting that year. So everything we see might not be so final.
IIRC for both the PS3 and the Vita the overall design didn't really change notably. The PS3 dropped some USB ports, some Ethernet ports and an HDMI port but aside form that I think was the same as the unit was when first shown off.
The Vita had some minor aesthetic changes but the unit as shown and the one on store shelves could easily be mistaken for one another unless you knew they were different.
I expect to see the hardware on the 20th, and I expect the overall design to remain the same.
JohnnySasaki86
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Yeah, it wasn't anything major at all.
Disturbing news? (Posted in the Kotaku thread)
New Twitter post...
https://twitter.com/hlm2nd/status/301347405650087937
To which SuperDaE replies:
New Twitter post...
https://twitter.com/hlm2nd/status/301347405650087937
To which SuperDaE replies:
Interfectum
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lol you need to quit listening to him.
BTW, he also said this
Obvious agenda and he's an asshole on Twitter.
But what if he isn't trolling with that comment?
Gemüsepizza
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Didn't Tretton say that he thinks anti-used games is a bad idea? I would value his opinion higher than that of superdae. And Microsoft did refuse to comment on this, while several other sources (AndyH, ...) have indicated that those plans are probably true.
Interfectum
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https://twitter.com/superDaE/status/301271265149337600
He trolled Sony not a tweet before that. (Unless he has the 'inside scoop' that the PS4 is, in fact, a piece of shit.)
Uno Venova
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Mods closing a thread with his tweets, and insiders here saying he's full of shit is enough for me to not care.
BruiserBear
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You've really bought into that guy for some reason.
Doesn't mean Sony won't block used games too, but the odds of Sony blocking used games and Microsoft not doing it? I'd say there is no chance of that.
Proelite
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Welcome back
Only a few more days to the 20th. All will be revealed anyway.
Yup. Hilarious that Kotaku fell for it.
So, any infos on MS plans on this?
bigboss370
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typical Kotaku actually.
phosphor112
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Yep.
Insane Metal
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ThatGuy707
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They aren't going to literally put Windows 8 on it... They are going to put a specialized build of Windows. Ever heard of Windows Phones. They run a specialized build of Windows that use as little as 512MB - 1 GB and is very smooth.
If anything they would be running a special build of Windows so that maybe the next Xbox could runs Apps and Arcade games that could easily work on all MS devices. It would be cool if Xbox arcade games worked on the PC/tablets/phones as well. If Durango uses a build of Windows this might be possible.
I also bet that Skype will replace Xbox Live Chat as the default way to chat. I think the main reason though to reserve more space and use Windows is because it offers them more flexibility in the future to react and change the OS. I think they were limited in what they could do this gen.
BrainZEROX
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I was reading this thread and its supporting article from semiaccurate and I was wondering if Durango's heavily tweeked approach to hardware was responsible for the low yield production rate that are supposed to plague them (if SA has to be believed in...). I was also wondering if the seemingly simpler and more "off the shelf" (when compared to Durango) approach to Orbis design could favour Sony. Do you think Sony could have an easier production run than Microsoft? That could be a factor in Orbis' availability and profitability (which Sony seems to be in dire need of). Maybe lessons from the early PS3 days were drawn and one of the key designs for Orbis was "ease of production".
velociraptor
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Pachter said that the reason Microsoft are showing their console way after Sony's is so they can modify their specs/console accordingly.
Could Microsoft alter the 'rumoured' specs of Durango this late? I'm quite curious as to how easily one can simply improve the RAM, CPU or GPU?
Could Microsoft alter the 'rumoured' specs of Durango this late? I'm quite curious as to how easily one can simply improve the RAM, CPU or GPU?
Plenty of people have said not really outside of clock speeds and stuff.
nelsonroyale
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I dont think they are showing way later. March, April at the latest. I think Sony has taken a more aggressive stance this time around. No wonder, MS made signicant gains this gen. They were well behind with Xbox. I don't expect them to be reactive. Both systems are likely releasing at the same time, or there abouts. They will have no more time to change their specs than Sony. And why would they want to? Seems like they have a slightly different emphasis than Sony this time round. They probably feel they have a good balance.
Chuck Norris
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yurinka
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I was wondering that Vita has Skype and maybe Durango too. So how about if PS4 too? It would be great to support it in order to enable crossplatform chat!
Talk with your friends while playing even if they aren't using the same game or the same console!
Talk with your friends while playing even if they aren't using the same game or the same console!
Yep I don't believe they're going to have 3GB or RAM unavailable for games in the final version.
When announced the PS3 had a Batarang as controller. Unless there is universal acclaim (won't happen due to the mandatory fanboy trolling) the design shown the 20th won't be 100% final.
I don't think Sony will be unveiling the actual specs of the console. Just the console itself and games.
yurinka
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I think they are going to reveal basic info too, but maybe won't detail specially in the places they can tweak it depending on Durango's data to be announced.
Example : they can announce the processor, the GPU, how the box and the controller looks, games, to say that they won' t repeat the $599 fiasco, and that is going to be released this year in US and that is going to use GDDR5. But wait for E3 for the exact release dates, exact price and amount of RAM.
brain_stew
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Historically, clock speeds are only revised downwards (RSX in PS3, Xenon in the 360, everything in the GCN etc.) as increasing them means you need to revise your chassis and cooling systems as well as redo a lot of QA.
If you're looking for surprises at these console reveals, then don't look towards the raw hardware specifications. They're not changing for the better.
The one area that can feasibly be changed (at great cost and effort) at this stage is the memory amount but both Sony and Microsoft are at the realistic limits of their respective memory technologies. So you can write that I've of as well.