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[Elder Legend]

Diablo IV Quarterly Update for end of 2021 is here - got an official email from their Diablo PR Team over at Blizzard - A TON of Stuff here such as talking about itemization system, new paragon revamped system, and visual updates - too much to discuss/show in the thread , but you can read everything here.

Diablo IV Quarterly Update—December 2021

Learn more about itemization, Paragon updates, and the visual effects of Diablo IV in this next Quarterly Developer Update.

news.blizzard.com

A load of improvements to combat animations, blood, gore skills and just overall gameplay feel. This is looking fucking tight. Holy shit.

 

[digital_ghost]

Never played a Diablo game. Main reason was i grew up with strict religious parents and they didn't want it in their house.

Now that im an adult, i wanna give it a try. I'll probably start with this one.

 

[Urban]

Never played a Diablo game. Main reason was i grew up with strict religious parents and they didn't want it in their house.

Now that im an adult, i wanna give it a try. I'll probably start with this one.

u should play D2R first. Because once you played the new ones the old one (1,2) feel so slow.

 

[BlackM1st]

All-in-one video update

 

[digital_ghost]

u should play D2R first. Because once you played the new ones the old one (1,2) feel so slow.

Thanks for the advice. I'll try playing D2R first then. If i like it i'll move on to the others.

 

[Barakov]

Seems like they're regularly showing how development is going. I can see this coming out in 2023.

 

[Elder Legend]

Thanks for the advice. I'll try playing D2R first then. If i like it i'll move on to the others.

Yeah take the advice. I played all of them in order but Diablo 2 is regarded as the best Diablo and Diablo 2 Resurrected is very well done.

Diablo 3 is good but not as dark and gritty and lost a bit of the horror and atmosphere but gameplay wise its a superior game. However, Diablo 2 is the real DNA.

Diablo 4 is going to be basically Diablo 2 but on Crack and steroids and modern with the great gameplay of Diablo 3 and the amazing horror and atmosphere of 1 and 2 put into a single package on a new engine and game systems.

 

[GymWolf]

Ok some of this footage is better than what i saw early in the day, especially the combat improvement one with the barbarian, yeah i think now it looks adeguate.

 

[GymWolf]

Never played a Diablo game. Main reason was i grew up with strict religious parents and they didn't want it in their house.

Now that im an adult, i wanna give it a try. I'll probably start with this one.

Just for your information, you have to sacrifice a goat every 10 hours of gameplay or something bad can happen...

 

[digital_ghost]

Just for your information, you have to sacrifice a goat every 10 hours of gameplay or something bad can happen...

Waiting for amazon to send the sacrificial goat. Last time the delivery was delayed and I broke my leg. I don't want to imagine what bad things will happen next time i fail to make a sacrifice in time.

Prime same day shipping my ass.

 

[Big Chungus]

pre-alpha...

this probably wont launch until 2025

 

[Inviusx]

They're pulling in systems from both D2 and D3 which seems like a good move. +skill affixes on items is a welcome feature from D2 and Essences are essentially Kanai's Cube from D3 which was also a good system albeit the new system seems a bit more nuanced.

Only thing they didn't sell me on was the Paragon Board. It seemed needlessly complicated. The Paragon system from D3 was bare bones but this new system has maybe gone too far in the other direction.

 

[Fuz]

Mmmm looks decent, actually.

But I'm sure they fuck it up with forced online and business model bullshit.

 

[BlackM1st]

pre-alpha...

Spoiler

Alpha, beta , pre Alpha etc. lost any meaning unfortunately.

One day publishers decided that it would be way cool to call demo versions "public betas", but when people complained about quality of such "demos" publishers started to call such demos/trailer videos Alpha versions to shut such people up with "duh, it's pre Alpha duh"

So now we see such disclaimers regardless of how close/faraway the actual release date is.

I do believe that this is an alpha version tho. Game looks very early. In fact, there's no game yet. But 2025 looks way too pessimistic. I mean it's ain't no AAA Skyrim/GTA level project assets wise.

 

[BlackM1st]

But I'm sure they fuck it up with forced online

There's no way it's not gonna be an always online game. PS3 hacks kinda destroyed D3 on consoles for many people.

 

[AJUMP23]

Do not care for Blizzard products anymore.

 

[Fuz]

There's no way it's not gonna be an always online game. PS3 hacks kinda destroyed D3 on consoles for many people.

Tired of this argument, since D3.
Separate solo and multi.

Done.

 

[Wonko_C]

Never played a Diablo game. Main reason was i grew up with strict religious parents and they didn't want it in their house.

Now that im an adult, i wanna give it a try. I'll probably start with this one.

I dabbled once into Diablo 1 and I loved the town music, but never got far. I finally played through the whole thing a couple months ago. If you're going to do the same, beware though, read a guide on how to build your character and what to spend money on, or you'll find yourself unable to progress beyond a certain point.

Then after all these years and reading about the games I learned that "Diablo" isn't like, the actual Devil LOL. The game isn't even set on Earth.

 

[Captain Toad]

My friend of 26 years and I are going to play this together.

 

[BlackM1st]

Tired of this argument, since D3.
Separate solo and multi.

Done.

Solo only , internet independent Diablo is ain't coming back.

Do you even remember the last time you WEREN'T online?

I'm all digital since PS3 gen and so far so good.

If you're worried about Blizz keeping servers alive 10-15 years later, yeah, it's a viable concern, but... But how many people would care about D4 in 10-15 years? I hope by that time we will have D5 lol

 

[amigastar]

I would love a 2022 release window, but probably not gonna happen.

 

[Saber]

Still very unsure of this. Feel like a lot of videos about info I don't give a shit about(I mean, a video just for showing light effects LOL).

The wizard skill show case looks nice though.

 

[Sygma]

Utterly unimpressive compared to the competition, even in mmo form.

 

[Kacho]

Mmmm looks decent, actually.

But I'm sure they fuck it up with forced online and business model bullshit.

It's already confirmed to be online only. Diablo 4 is basically an MMO with a shared world.

The business model remains a mystery and I share your concern about that. It will definitely have loads of cosmetics to purchase, probably some form of a battle pass system and NFTs seem highly likely. Please be excited.

 

[dorkimoe]

I NEED this game like era needs to be offended.
please 2022

 

[LOLCats]

Thanks for the advice. I'll try playing D2R first then. If i like it i'll move on to the others.

Diablo 3 is much faster than d2 and is more like the d4 gameplay... just keep that in mind.

 

[daveonezero]

so much of what makes these games good is how well the skills, animation, sound, progression and just plain feels matter.

it looks good but unknown if it will feel as good as the top of the genre.
D3 was odd for me. The small things like weapons not actually being used or mattering in attack animations was a big bummer. Other times it felt real good but also a bit limited.

 

[Johnny Concrete]

I kind of feel like there is a mismatch between the dark evil looking environments and the cartoony exaggerated character animations.
It’s like the game has an identity crisis..

 

[Tg89]

u should play D2R first. Because once you played the new ones the old one (1,2) feel so slow.

I’d honestly just play D2R and if you like it just keep playing it. D2 is an absolute classic and D3 kinda sucks. In a genre where games are basically infinitely replayable there’s no reason to move on to an inferior product.D4 is still up in the air obviously, but modern Blizzard hasn’t shown anything to suggest they can make a game anywhere near the quality of D2.

 

[BlackM1st]

The small things like weapons not actually being used or mattering in attack animations was a big bummer.

Word. Wizard felt the best to me because of that.

 

[VN1X]

I thought we were boycotting Blizzard though?

 

[tommib]

Looks good but this is going to be a NFT hell, right?

 

[Elder Legend]

It's already confirmed to be online only. Diablo 4 is basically an MMO with a shared world.

The business model remains a mystery and I share your concern about that. It will definitely have loads of cosmetics to purchase, probably some form of a battle pass system and NFTs seem highly likely. Please be excited.

Paid expansions have been confirmed and cosmetics as of now. No battle pass or NFTs so far.

 

[lefty1117]

Seems like they're regularly showing how development is going. I can see this coming out in 2023.

I loved Golgo 13 on the SNES

 

[lefty1117]

The last great hope for Blizzard IMO

 

[Honey Bunny]

Do the diablo games play well on a gamepad?

 

[Dr. Claus]

Solo only , internet independent Diablo is ain't coming back.

Do you even remember the last time you WEREN'T online?

I'm all digital since PS3 gen and so far so good.

If you're worried about Blizz keeping servers alive 10-15 years later, yeah, it's a viable concern, but... But how many people would care about D4 in 10-15 years? I hope by that time we will have D5 lol

This has got to be some of the most regressive, ass-backwards logic I have seen yet.

I am offline more often than not. The vast majority of my games library doesn't require internet or check-ins as there is literally no reason for it. People *still* go out of their way to play the original two Diablo games. A great game is a great game and should not be immediately tossed aside as soon as the "next entry" releases. This mindset of disposability has ruined modern AAA gaming.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Do the diablo games play well on a gamepad?

3 feels amazing on a controller, 2 resurrected…not so much

 

[BlackM1st]

A great game is a great game and should not be immediately tossed aside as soon as the "next entry" releases. This mindset of disposability has ruined modern AAA gaming.

10 to 15 years isn't enought for you ? OK...

 

[GymWolf]

Do the diablo games play well on a gamepad?

Diablo 3 console version was a delight to play with a controller, the roll evade button alone was a big difference with the pc version.

 

[lh032]

hope its like D3, the best diablo game ever.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Looks good, but not great. This game isn't coming out until late 2023 or so. Why not drop cross-gen support and go all-in with graphics? Lighting for example could be much better. Feels like D2R has better lighting.

 

[BlitzerRadic]

Diablo 3 console version was a delight to play with a controller, the roll evade button alone was a big difference with the pc version.

That evade is useless when you start using end game builds. D3 was clearly designed for KBM. A number of skills dont behave the same way with a controller and as a result there are builds on PC that are worse or just dont even work on console.

 

[WitchHunter]

 

[Farawayfromhell]

It will come out when I am retired with these timelines...

 

[GymWolf]

That evade is useless when you start using end game builds. D3 was clearly designed for KBM. A number of skills dont behave the same way with a controller and as a result there are builds on PC that are worse or just dont even work on console.

Well lucky for me i don't really about the endgame in these type of games, i just like to beat the campaign with a couple of characters and that's it.

But you are probably right.

 

[BlackM1st]

Well lucky for me i don't really about the endgame in these type of games

lol to each his own I guess haha

On one end of the spectrum people are angry about me saying that 10 to 15 years is enough to enjoy 1 game, on another end people are happy with just a 8 hours campaign

 

[GymWolf]

lol to each his own I guess haha

On one end of the spectrum people are angry about me saying that 10 to 15 years is enough to enjoy 1 game, on another end people are happy with just a 8 hours campaign

Yeah i know that these games are all about endgame but i just don't care, i barely play the genre and only if there is complete controller support.

And tbh, maybe i'm slow but they are never 8 hours short to me, like grim dawn was surely not 8 hours for example, same for diablo 3.
And i usually use multiple characters so i end with close to 40-50 hours of playtime.

 

[Airbus Jr]

So far look better than diablo 3

Can we expect 2022 release date

 

[BlackM1st]

So far look better than diablo 3

Can we expect 2022 release date

Maybe like LATE 2022. At least I hope so...