And 5-10 years before that, devs game those map packs, characters and skins away for free in their nice meaty bug patches and adjustments. As a thank you to their fans.
Not sure why people are hung up on cosmetics, if anything the free season boosts concern me, sounds like an artificial way to increase playtime
"Very legal & very cool." -Todd Howard
Yeah you do you, I prefer expansions with solid content. I honestly can't stand this kind of practice in a full-priced game.
As I said: "cosmetics can be a big part of those games, I know they are for me. The fact that some things will be locked behind a paywall is a freakin dick move"
Like i said above if the base game is solid then i have no issue with it. D3 auction house was shitty no question. Id like to think they learned a lesson there. We'll see. ill be game passing this so nothing lost if they want to be cunts.
Did you read the news of how much money they make from a mobile Diablo game per week? You think they care about the backlash from ten years ago?
Yeah having your portrait look plain next to someone's who is covered with flames or something is absolutely devastating
Ill do me don't worry.
20 years ago? what games gave away free expansions, maps, skins and cosmetics away? And didnt want you to put your hand in your pocket ? i cant remember any.
Would you be happier if you had to grind dozens of hours for it?
Not a paid game.
Yes.
I said 5-10 years before that. Almost every single arena shooter, from Quake, to UT, and even Rainbow 6 games, etc, gave away free map packs, skins, characters, etc, almost twice a year at minimum with their "content updates and fixes."
Is it obligatory one or the other? There are no middle ground in a fully priced game? Seriously?
Diablo? It is my shit. I don't want to encourage those practice so yeah, plenty of other quality games to play.
It's not so much as being "conditioned", I think some people just want to hope for the best because the series meant a lot to them at some point in their lives. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.Gotta love how certain people have been conditioned to think this is good news
Gotta love how certain people have been conditioned to think this is good news
Gotta love how certain people just follow the latest outrage on the internet. Can't wait for the concerned about D4 in massive caps and shocked/outrage face thumbnails all over my YouTube feed tomorrow.Gotta love how certain people have been conditioned to think this is good news
Let's wait for the game to be out and all reviews are in, shall we?
That would be the right thing to do. But history and Blizzard tends to repeat itself by making the same mistakes. Or doing the exact opposite of what their playerbase wants and goes and does what their corporate leadership wants.
At the risk of sounding like a pessimist, I have a feeling that even if the Actiblizz/Xbox deal were to close today, we aren't seeing Diablo or COD day one on gamepass. I am sure it will show up eventually though if you are willing to wait.
Yeah it sucks. Another game with FOMO where you feel compelled to grind to get the one item before it's gone. I already deal with that in Destiny and hate it.Another game that's going to bombard me with season pass bullshit
Pretty sure all those games you mention had paid for expansions and/or map packs.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be pushed against, and I'll do it in the best way, with my wallet.
Its a live service game with content updates seasons etc the usual stuff. Looks like a lot here just expect a fairly sizable team to work for free for a couple of years after the game ships.
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UT and Quake always gave away map packs, skins, etc., as well as many other shooters. Especially Epic Games. That was their signature back then. Not to mention the free UnrealEd so people were building maps and custom skins all day long.
You don't need to be a shareholder to understand humans like to maximize their efforts.
Not so sure about that, Microsoft knows that gamepass is HEAVILY carrying them in the court of public opinion.... Dropping their promise of first party releases coming day one is ghastly optics.
That's exactly why I think we won't see it. Sony multi-year marketing deal is probably going to prevent COD from being on gamepass. We've seen a couple of these contracts leak before and they all had a clause that prevented gamepass or other subscription services. I think that's what Microsoft meant when they said Sony pays to keep things off gamepass in the recent Brazilian court filings.
I dont expect it day one on GP. They would have said so at E3. I agree
Not disagreeing with you here just saying those games in the past had to keep the lights on as well, and they did it via map packs and expansions. You get tons of free shit in games these days as well. Just they extract cash in a different way. Personally especially with shooters i prefer the modern method as it doesn't split the player base or leave anyone behind. Not saying its perfect but mtx done well isnt some evil people make it out to be.
Look , if all these mtx non-sence was out of it, i couldnt be happier. Hell in D3 if my specific wings make me look cool, i love it and yes ad you said its part of the experience. Paying for them in D4 is going to blow big time. And if its just that well, it suck , but wtf can we do, not play it and miss a great game? I came and go with D3 passing some seasons, and missed a few cosmetic stuff, do i hate the game because of it?
Dont think they can say anything until that deal closes, id be very surprised if its not.( unless sony pay MS to block their own game
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I don't think they could announce that at E3, since they have yet to own them.
Agreed about userbase being split with expansions, UT wasn't like that, however. They were included with their patch updates, so everyone had those maps/skins, etc.. And then when you logged into a server to play, and you did not have a custom map, your game would quickly download the map, mods, etc..
The more I read about it, the more I agree with your line of thinking regarding this cod, possibly the next one as well.
GaaS.
