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[Goodstyle]

So Hillary's campaign has Huma Abedin as a high ranking official, and I was really confused by this because by all accounts she is an awful person to have on one's team. She is married to that doofus Anthony Weiner, she is Muslim (there is nothing wrong with being Muslim, but voters can be really prejudice), and there are a ton of rumours about her family having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood (all of which are baseless and dumb, but still damaging).

But despite all of this, Hillary has her on board, even though I can smell how badly she wants to win from here. The reason this is though, that she's basically her sidekick.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-2016-campaign-huma-abedin-119671.html
Just a few feet away from Clinton dressed in a classic tweed navy shift, Huma Abedin, 39, moved through the crowd tracking her boss. Abedin, Clinton’s longest-serving aide, chatted breezily with acquaintances. But like a mother monitoring her child on the playground, she never let Clinton drift out of her line of sight, ever vigilant and poised to act.

After decades of rope lines — she started working for Clinton as a 19-year-old intern in the First Lady’s office — the role of body woman comes naturally to Abedin, and her hovering presence there, a few feet away from the candidate, is what normal feels like for Clinton.

Some political observers have expressed surprise that after all these years, Abedin is still at it. In 2013, Abedin briefly took a hiatus from Clinton world to try on a different role: supportive campaign spouse, speaking and appearing with her husband, former Rep. Anthony Weiner, in a video kicking off his New York City mayoral run and campaigning for him in the city. But after Weiner’s bid self-combusted amid sexting revelations, Abedin seemed to pick up right where she left off: gearing up for another tour with Clinton. And another grueling national campaign.

The road is typically a younger staffer’s gig, but there she was on the Chipotle security tape footage, standing next to Clinton as she ordered her now famous burrito bowl on the way to Iowa. When Clinton flew first class from Boston to Washington in April, it was Abedin who sat with the former secretary of state. During a photo shoot with Glamour magazine last summer to promote Clinton’s memoir, “Hard Choices,” Abedin was also on set, making sure the couch was firm enough not to swallow up Clinton, and holding up outfits for her to choose, a source recalled.
...

When she is on the trail, Abedin has taken on an expansive set of duties. On trips to South Carolina, for instance, which Clinton visited last week to attend the funeral of the Rev. Clementa Pinckney, Abedin has held two private meetings with South Carolina state legislators on her boss’s behalf.

When Clinton got stuck in traffic on her way to a meeting with New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio — who since the meeting has refused to endorse her campaign — Abedin met with him one-on-one for 45 minutes before Clinton eventually appeared.
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“With the miles and days on the road, you become family,” said Phil Gordon, former assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs, who worked closely with Abedin at the State Department.“Hillary Clinton has seen her grow over the past 20 years. The two of them have probably spent more time with each other than with their families.”
...

“Huma doesn’t need this,” said Tom Nides, a deputy secretary of state under Clinton who remains a trusted adviser. “She could do a whole variety of things. She could make more money, and she could have left a long time ago. She really, really believes in Hillary Clinton.”

Holy shit to all of this. I don't follow U.S. politics all that much, but this is kind of fascinating to me. I don't know how to look at this; has Hillary raised this woman as her daughter for the past 20 years without people even realizing it, or did she create a servant?

EDIT: Wow, that "Did she create a servant bit" was idiotic. I meant something more inoffensive in that, but I'll live with this mistake.
EDIT2: "By all accounts" was another idiotic mistake of mine. I meant by "PR" standards. Ugh, this is not my day.

 

[JDSN]

She is her Gary, although im not sure why you brought up the muslim thing twice.

 

[gutter_trash]

she is Anthony Weiner's wife

so a Muslim-American woman married a Jewish-American congressman who likes to email photos of his weiner.


she is safe... LOL

 

[1871]

Politicians' staffs in the US are very strange seen from the outside. But what is described here is fairly common. Nothing too special about Clinton. And it's a fairly apolitical homage from politico who is getting oh so close to insider gossip.

 

[jmood88]

She is her Gary, although im not sure why you brought up the muslim thing twice.

It's totally not an issue (but did you know that she's Muslim?).

 

[Linus]

This could be the making of a great future book title. "How the ______ infiltrated the White House"

Edit: How the Weiners infiltrated the White house sounds good.

 

[Zach]

She is her Gary, although im not sure why you brought up the muslim thing twice.

Ha! That's what I thought.

 

[Goodstyle]

She is her Gary, although im not sure why you brought up the muslim thing twice.

I mentioned she was Muslim once. The second thing was that there were rumours that she has ties to a group known as "The Muslim Brotherhood" which is a terrorist organization.

 

[Walpurgis]

She is her Gary

 

[giga]

So Hillary's campaign has Huma Abedin as a high ranking official, and I was really confused by this because by all accounts she is an awful person to have on one's team. She is married to that doofus Anthony Weiner, she is Muslim (there is nothing wrong with being Muslim, but voters can be really prejudice), and there are a ton of rumours about her family having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood (all of which are baseless and dumb, but still damaging).

These are some ridiculous reasons to not have someone on your campaign team. If this country can elect a Kenyan guy named Barack Hussein Obama, they can elect someone who has a Muslim aide.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

Sounds like someone listens to AM radio.

 

[JCX]

In all the OP, I do not see a single thing saying she is bad at her job. Nor can I think of a US presidential election that was lost due to a Gary having a different religion or a cheating husband.

 

[Goodstyle]

These are some ridiculous reasons to not have someone on your campaign team. If this country can elect a Kenyan guy named Barack Hussein Obama, they can elect someone who has a Muslim aide.

I think the bigger liability is that she is married to Anthony Weiner tbh.

Sounds like someone listens to AM radio.

... I am not an Islamiphobe. If I gave off that impression, I regret ever posting this.

 

[giga]

I think the bigger liability is that she is married to Anthony Weiner tbh.

How? Huma isn't the one who cheated.

 

[Goodstyle]

In all the OP, I do not see a single thing saying she is bad at her job. Nor can I think of a US presidential election that was lost due to a Gary having a different religion or a cheating husband.

The point of the thread isn't to demonstrate that she is bad at her job, or that she shouldn't have the job at all. In fact, I think it shows the opposite. I just pointed out she was an unlikely choice as a campaign manager and that her relationship and friendship with Hillary was interesting.

It kinda reminded me of Veep a little, and humanizes Hillary IMO.

 

[Goodstyle]

How? Huma isn't the one who cheated.

People blast Hillary for having a "fake" relationship with her husband, her right hand is living in the exact same situation. Hillary's biggest detractors often say she is inauthentic, and I think this only adds to that. Not that this means much, but I think Donald Trump already blasted Hillary about Weiner before.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Did someone give Donald a gaf account?

We know why you brought up that bullshit.

Come on, breh.

People blast Hillary for having a "fake" relationship with her husband, her right hand is living in the exact same situation. Hillary's biggest detractors often say she is inauthentic, and I think this only adds to that. Not that this means much, but I think Donald Trump already blasted Hillary about Weiner before.

Which is funny. Donald doesn't have any moral authority.

 

[Goodstyle]

Did someone give Donald a gaf account?

We know why you brought up that bullshit.

Come on, breh.

Oh God dammit, I WANT Hillary to win this (even over Bernie!). I just think thought this was an interesting fact about her. I don't know how anyone could read the OP and think that this was meant to be against her.

Which is funny. Donald doesn't have any moral authority.

Which is why I prefaced with "not that this means much". The reason I put that was to convey that I am well aware that Trump is a moron.

 

[JCX]

Oh God dammit, I WANT Hillary to win this (even over Bernie!). I just think thought this was an interesting fact about her. I don't know how anyone could read the OP and think that this was meant to be against her.



Which is why I prefaced with "not that this means much". The reason I put that was to convey that I am well aware that Trump is a moron.

In the OP you a said that by all accounts, Huma is an awful person to have on Hilary's team.

 

[giga]

People blast Hillary for having a "fake" relationship with her husband, her right hand is living in the exact same situation. Hillary's biggest detractors often say she is inauthentic, and I think this only adds to that. Not that this means much, but I think Donald Trump already blasted Hillary about Weiner before.

People's personal relationships are no one's business. The people blasting Hillary for having a fake relationship aren't the voters she's going to win or target.

Oh God dammit, I WANT Hillary to win this (even over Bernie!). I just think thought this was an interesting fact about her. I don't know how anyone could read the OP and think that this was meant to be against her.

"because by all accounts she is an awful person to have on one's team"

You don't see how people could interpret that to be against Huma?

 

[DAVIDHUXLEY]

Yeah don't see any of your points. She is a smart lady .
One can't help who one falls in love with and the Weiner garbage never compromised her ethics.

Moving on.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Oh God dammit, I WANT Hillary to win this (even over Bernie!). I just think thought this was an interesting fact about her. I don't know how anyone could read the OP and think that this was meant to be against her.



Which is why I prefaced with "not that this means much". The reason I put that was to convey that I am well aware that Trump is a moron.

Like, I get that but address the one point you brought up that could be relevant: 'by all accounts she is an awful person to have on one's team.'. But you brought up her being Muslim, marrying a douche and being dedicated to her job. If she's a guy, this doesn't even register. If you have one or two accounts of her being incompetent, I would love to here them.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

... I am not an Islamiphobe. If I gave off that impression, I regret ever posting this.

It's just that the only people I know who even give a shit about Abedin are from talk radio, where they constantly complain about what alleged total bitches her and Clinton are.

Given the usual source of these claims, it's smart to be skeptical. They do the same thing with Obama and Valerie Jarrett all the time.

 

[Goodstyle]

In the OP you a said that by all accounts, Huma is an awful person to have on Hilary's team.

I meant from a PR perspective, not from a job performance perspective. Based on the article I linked, it's very clear that she is very good at her job though.

Reading over the OP again, ya, I get why people would think I was posting veiled racism against her. I... I regret all of this.

 

[spindashing]

I... I regret all of this.

 

[Goodstyle]

If you have one or two accounts of her being incompetent, I would love to here them.

How about reading the article I linked? Or just the parts I bolded?

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Oh yeah, that Muslim brotherhood bullshit was about her family, brought up by politicians. So it has political shit stains all over it. You might have just asked to see her long form birth certificate.

Look, I'm all for shit posting and trolling but git gud.

 

[Mesousa]

Pretty sure its Haram for a muslim woman to marry a guy who isn't Muslim. I am pretty sure she isn't Muslim.

 

[Goodstyle]

Oh yeah, that Muslim brotherhood bullshit was about her family, brought up by politicians. So it has political shit stains all over it. You might have just asked to see her long form birth certificate.

Look, I'm all for shit posting and trolling but git gud.

Ya, the brotherhood thing is bullshit. I'm aware of that, I even mention it in the OP. I'm not sure who you're fighting here, I agree with all of your points on this.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

I meant from a PR perspective, not from a job performance perspective. Based on the article I linked, it's very clear that she is very good at her job though.

Reading over the OP again, ya, I get why people would think I was posting veiled racism against her. I... I regret all of this.

How about reading the article I linked? Or just the parts I bolded?

That in no way, means she is unqualified. Did you read it? She works hard, dedicates her whole life to Clinton? It sounds like an endorsement to me. You think that isn't happening a million times this year alone?

And the only other things you bring up is crap? You should regret this. You tried to Barack Hussein Obama a women working hard to get the first female elected president who has a douche bag husband. Blame her for the failures of others (husband and family members). Women can't get a break. Do well and you suggest something is wrong.

 

[Goodstyle]

That in no way, means she is unqualified. Did you read it? She works hard, dedicates her whole life to Clinton? It sounds like an endorsement to me. You think that isn't happening a million times this year alone?

That was the point, I WANT Hillary to win. The fact that the stuff I bolded was all positive should demonstrate that you are arguing with someone you have absolutely no reason to be arguing with.

I don't blame Abedin for any of her husband's failures, but I recognize that a lot of voters will hold it against her. I have no problem with Muslims (many of my family members are muslim) and realize that the rumours about her family are bullshit. This was more supposed to be a "on the surface it looks strange, but if you look deeper it makes perfect sense" type post that reminds me of a dynamic in "Veep". I conveyed that poorly, I realize that, but it still doesn't mean you should be putting words in my mouth.

It sounds like you're trying to pick a fight where there isn't one.

 

[giga]

That was the point, I WANT Hillary to win. The fact that the stuff I bolded was all positive should demonstrate that you are arguing with someone you have absolutely no reason to be arguing with.

I don't blame Abedin for any of her husband's failures, but I recognize that a lot of voters will hold it against her. I have no problem with Muslims (many of my family members are muslim) and realize that the rumours about her family are bullshit. This was more supposed to be a "on the surface it looks strange, but if you look deeper it makes perfect sense" type post that reminds me of a dynamic in "Veep". I conveyed that poorly, I realize that, but it still doesn't mean you should be putting words in my mouth.

It sounds like you're trying to pick a fight where there isn't one.

You need to stop being concerned with voters who were never going to vote for Hillary in the first place. This is the Democratic nomination, not the GOP.

 

[Rabbi_Vole]

I was under the impression Hil is a Humasexual....

So sorry.

 

[entremet]

She's very forgiving that's all I know.

Surprised she didn't dump Weiner after that embarrassment.

Could have an open relationship on the DL as well. We have no idea.

 

[deltatheta]

So you don't follow politics but you knew who Huma Abedin was?

 

[Jacob]

Pretty sure its Haram for a muslim woman to marry a guy who isn't Muslim. I am pretty sure she isn't Muslim.

Or, like most religious people, she doesn't follow everything in her scripture 100%. Doesn't make her not a Muslim unless you're a Muslim fundamentalist or you're looking to score points with the Islamophobia crowd. (You see a similar weird overlap between fundamentalist Christians and some atheists both arguing against mainstream Christians in similar ways but for different reasons.)

 

[LyleLanley]

For some reason when I saw the thread title I thought of one of these.