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[VeganElduderino]

Series s underwhelming again

it shouldn't even exist

 

[adamsapple]

Any noticeable changes with todays patch ?

No mention of performance fixes, mostly visual and progress breaking glitches.

Good to see they've addressed one of the biggest issues that almost broke the game for me where a certain quest would not progress, I had to redo the segment 5, 6 times before it triggered.

Although this part is interesting:

–Minor improvements to image aliasing in Performance mode and Xbox Series S

Both Performance mode and Series S should have a little bit of an improvement in IQ with lower aliasing going by the above.

 

[Three]

AW2? It does work on older cards but the performance is shit.

If you switch from DX12 to Vulkan with a mod you get a 50% performance boost. Rather stupid if you ask me

DX12 to Vulkan MOD for older GPUs on Windows

This MOD might help older GPUs to run newer games on Windows 8+ ( better to try it on WIN 10 / 11 ) or might help older GPUs to get a minor FPS boost when they are lacking some required new features. What this MOD will do is that it will make DX12 games to run on Vulkan. DO NOT EXPECT MIRACLES...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Try Doom Eternal, in the console space it produces a significant advantage for Xbox (only consoles that has hardware based VRS).

Yes ..it even looks better with a higher AF setting in RT mode than ps5. I have both. Reflections look sharper too

 

[MMaRsu]

pc gamers tend to dislike consoles with a bias.
And they also are mvoe favorable to xbox brand because they release on pc as opposed to ps

Pretty much this is where Im at

Although I dont dislike consoles perse

 

[Little Chicken]

The Series X version of the best looking console game so far out-performs the PS5 and its just page upon page of irate screeching...

The PS5 version is still perfectly playable, why is any of this an issue.

 

[Roberts]

No mention of performance fixes, mostly visual and progress breaking glitches.

Good to see they've addressed one of the biggest issues that almost broke the game for me where a certain quest would not progress, I had to redo the segment 5, 6 times before it triggered.

Glad to hear it. I'm at the Wellness centre atm with Saga and starting to really enjoy the game. If this shit happened to me, I don't think I would have the patience to redo stuff many times to progress.

 

[adamsapple]

Some screens from the Performance mode, first 5 minutes of the game.

IQ is notably softer compared to Quality, but I am noticing less shimmering in motion after the latest patch, so looks like they've done a little bit of work on that.

 

[SportsFan581]

That is not the issue I have.
According to Mr. Wang from AMD, primitive Shaders work as Mesh Shaders. And he says that Primitive Shaders are on Radeon since Vega.
But then why is it that Alan Wake works perfectly well on RNDA2 and 3. But does not run well on RDNA1 and Vega.
Is something missing in the Primitive Shaders on these older GPUs. Or something is not enabled on AMD's drivers for those cards?



That thing was about Vega, the first to use primitive Shaders. At the time it was touted as being able to improve performance a lot.
But AMD said it would require a driver to be enabled on all games. But that never happened. So only when devs implement support on the game.
Some people speculated that the Primitive Shaders on Vega was not complete.
And that this was also the reason why Raja left AMD.

Agreed. There has to be some kind of hardware difference besides the DX API. Otherwise you could run mesh shaders on the older hardware.

 

[SportsFan581]

I've got an S. I love the hell out of it. Never cared much for the resolution options or frame rates so long as it's nothing game breaking, I'm good. Also an Alan Wake fan. I rock this one after I'm done with Starfield. Can't wait! The S version seems just fine for me. Good stuff

Happy to have the rock solid 60fps on my XSX, but yeah the XSS users have a nice experience as well.

 

[adamsapple]

Per NXG:

Quality mode:
Series X is 10 to 20% faster in Quality mode, it also has lower input latency on both Series consoles compared to PS5 in the 30 FPS modes.

Performance mode:
Series X can be 10 to 28% faster than PS5.

Series S:
Looks similar to Perf. mode on PS5/SX, has a more stable 30 FPS than PS5's Quality mode. But the cut-backs make the IQ worse, including lower resolution textures.

 

[Negotiator101]

Some screens from the Performance mode, first 5 minutes of the game.

IQ is notably softer compared to Quality, but I am noticing less shimmering in motion after the latest patch, so looks like they've done a little bit of work on that.

You prefer 30 or 60 in this game?

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Up to 28% seems pretty massive. I'd be curious to see what an unlocked frame rate would show.

 

[adamsapple]

You prefer 30 or 60 in this game?

30.

Not a fast paced shooter at all, the extra fluidity doesn't really help much.

More visual flare is better in this games case. IMO of course.

 

[adamsapple]

edit: wrong topic.

 

[Negotiator101]

Up to 28% seems pretty massive. I'd be curious to see what an unlocked frame rate would show.

It's actually more than the teraflop difference between the two consoles which shows there are other advantages at play it would seem?

 

[intbal]

It's actually more than the teraflop difference between the two consoles which shows there are other advantages at play it would seem?

It's really close to the bandwidth difference (25%). Maybe that plays a role.

 

[SportsFan581]

It's actually more than the teraflop difference between the two consoles which shows there are other advantages at play it would seem?

If they were sweating a bit on the XSS version, the Xbox code base might have benefited greatly from those optimizations. Another possibility is that it is related to the mesh shaders, where the DX12 method on console is more efficient than the PS API in this specific area.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

It's actually more than the teraflop difference between the two consoles which shows there are other advantages at play it would seem?

Could be a smartshift thing, as it's not too far out of line if you look at the PS5 as a 9.2tf console.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Per NXG:

Quality mode:
Series X is 10 to 20% faster in Quality mode, it also has lower input latency on both Series consoles compared to PS5 in the 30 FPS modes.

Performance mode:
Series X can be 10 to 28% faster than PS5.

Series S:
Looks similar to Perf. mode on PS5/SX, has a more stable 30 FPS than PS5's Quality mode. But the cut-backs make the IQ worse, including lower resolution textures.

 

[Roberts]

30.

Not a fast paced shooter at all, the extra fluidity doesn't really help much.

More visual flare is better in this games case. IMO of course.

Yeah, I usually avoid 30fps as much as possible but I played this one at 30. Good input latency and very nice use of motion blur - there were moments when it felt like I was playing it at 40fps.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

Damn. Wrong thread. Sorry.