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[SHA]

The usual technical details stab from DF that has nothing to do with the quality of gameplay, if we get 15x the amount of contents we get from the usual dramatical graphics of other games with much less contents even in 2024 then who cares? I like euro cars, muscle cars metrics are garbage and rarely tells useful information.

 

[Schmendrick]

Does a game that looks like....uh... this... really need a performance analysis? That should run on my electrical toothbrush......

 

[Comandr]

Does a game that looks like....uh... this... really need a performance analysis? That should run on my electrical toothbrush......

 

[Schmendrick]

Coming from a guy who thinks a resolution slider is high tech I'll take that as a heartfelt compliment.

 

[Comandr]

Coming from a guy who thinks a resolution slider is high tech I'll take that as a heartfelt compliment.

Haha. I'm just giving you shit bud. This game looks like a PS3 title and has no reason to run as badly as it does. I suspect the only potential reason is the one outlined by DF - the game doesn't cull unseen assets properly.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Anyone who played the PS5 demo themselves knew it looked and ran like shit on PS5

I believe we have just found proof that other dimensions exist.

 

[Gonzito]

I can't help but feel you are mocking me for that incident with those zealots in that other thread, but surely I can't be the only one tired of half assed efforts, especially on things that would be easy to implement. Also I have not watched this video yet, so maybe you are not. Either way /shrug.

Edit - Having read a few more comments, I am guessing you are not, mayhap I should have read more before posting. Still amusing giving the shit I got in that other thread.

My man, I don't even know who you are lol. What are you talking about exactly?

 

[DenchDeckard]

Should the xbox app version be ok? I guess i can work some magic on my pc? I've bought on xbox so I own on both. Not bothered to go crazy on ini tweaks just in game settings?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I believe we have just found proof that other dimensions exist.

I think so too. DF agrees with what I said so I guess you must be from somewhere in the multiverse

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Interestingly, as with Elden Ring, running the PS4 version of the game on PS5 locks 60 fps but the resolution drops all the way down to 1080p and there are noticeable decreases in NPC rendering distance and texture quality

Realistically they should have moved this game to UE like P3R and SMTV:V used instead of keeping it on the decrepit P5 engine but I guess they figured 8 years development cycle was long enough so they just released it. This game is just so technically underwhelming in 2024, especially compared to the other 2 Atlus RPG's released earlier this year

 

[jm89]

You see? That's why numbered MC / Review scores mean nothing to me. No way a game is a 10 if its a technical mess.

Completey agree it's a pile of shit.

If this was any other product and it worked but the performance was shite reviewers would dock points for that.

I think the other issue is some game devs gets special treatment, whilst some other devs would get eviscerated for bad performance.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Technical garbage - 94 metacritic lol..

Same situation as with Elden Ring, game shouldn't get scores like this if it's a mess from tech perspective.

I don't know. I had more fun with and more mileage out of Elden Ring than any game released that year and beyond. I think perf ultimately isn't the most important thing. Its a disappointment for sure, I always hope IQ and framerate are good but i'll suck it up, and then play the game anyway. Bloodborne was and is beloved as well, moreso than many games with flawless performance, i'd choose it over a polished turd any day of the week.

 

[GHG]

And Hi-Fi Rush couldn't even hit 90.

It did on the right platform.

Hi-Fi Rush critic reviews

Metacritic aggregates music, game, tv, and movie reviews from the leading critics. Only Metacritic.com uses METASCORES, which let you know at a glance how each item was reviewed.

www.metacritic.com

 

[YeulEmeralda]

If high end PCs can't get stable framerate (without intervention from modder who fixed game made by large development team using millions of dollars and many years) I doubt Pro will change this.



I don't have any doubt that it's a great game but games should be scored in many aspects: tech (performance), music, gameplay, story etc. Performance is a big thing and I think reviewers should score games with this in mind.

True but I play on PC because modders can fix games.
Maybe this will be a Deadly Premonition 2 situation?

 

[Life Diff]

Wait for PS5 Pro

 

[Skifi28]

Sometimes I have to wonder if devs put aside a few hours to play their own game.

"Looks great to me on a 4k TV, what's AA?"

 

[Bojji]

Sometimes I have to wonder if devs put aside a few hours to play their own game.

"Looks great to me on a 4k TV, what's AA?"

Maybe they are using 1080p tvs (it may look good with downsampling)?

I think it's obvious for games with HDR, half of them have raised black levels like they "master" them on cheap LCDs.

 

[Germuso]

Shin megami v looks better...

 

[Bojji]

Shin megami v looks better...

Native 4k with TAA and 60fps, for sure.

Using mediocre PS3 engine in 2024 wasn't a good idea. UE4 gave them much better results, fuck even Soul Hackers 2 on Unity runs better than this.

 

[Hrk69]

Wait for PS5 Pro

Modder/fixer from PC community have never seen code as shit as this:

I guess the shit is happening on consoles.

Your special console isn't going to fix code

 

[Bojji]

Your special console isn't going to fix code

They fixed the demo on PC so maybe there is hope for (all) console versions.

 

[Hrk69]

They fixed the demo on PC so maybe there is hope for (all) console versions.

MOST EXCELLENT

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Interestingly, as with Elden Ring, running the PS4 version of the game on PS5 locks 60 fps but the resolution drops all the way down to 1080p and there are noticeable decreases in NPC rendering distance and texture quality

Realistically they should have moved this game to UE like P3R and SMTV:V used instead of keeping it on the decrepit P5 engine but I guess they figured 8 years development cycle was long enough so they just released it. This game is just so technically underwhelming in 2024, especially compared to the other 2 Atlus RPG's released earlier this year

The only positive ill say about Metaphor is the rendering is doing a lot more than Persona 5 and any other game from them. The city in particular is large with a lot of detail. Don't get me wrong it's not super impressive but it's a step up from P5 and has bigger areas than P3R.

However- there's no god damn excuse for the atrocious image quality due to no AA. Honestly guys, as much as I like Atlus games, we have to stop supporting piece of shit optomization like this. It's 2024 and this is PS5 ..i think it's downright disrespectful and they aint getting my money if they can't get a simple thing like AA right!

Between stuff like this and expecting PS5 players to buy P5 Royal for a SECOND time to play at 60 fps ...? Atlus is a shitty studio.

 

[Life Diff]

Your special console isn't going to fix code

Don't insult daddy ps5 pro like that

To be fair I would play this on PC but Atlus games feel most at home on the big screen for me DF seem to believe it's gpu limited, long as Atlus don't put out a resolution bump for pro it might be a solid 60

 

[nnytk]

I pre-ordered a PS5 copy after watching the IGN review. So many reasons for me to support this game, for me as a creative, ideologically, supporting Atlus, a new IP, experimental visually and content-wise, 80hr long campaign, Shoji Meguro, glowing reviews,...
(...)
This seems like a really wild passion project. My guess is that the devs are working hard on adressing the performance hiccups.

 

[Lokaum D+]

wait, isnt even locked at 60fps on PS5 ? what are devs doing ? this is a PS4 game, at this point its just pure laziness

it ll be PC with the Special_K mod to fix this shit

 

[Skifi28]

this is a PS3 game

Fixed!

 

[rodrigolfp]

Don't insult daddy ps5 pro like that

To be fair I would play this on PC but Atlus games feel most at home on the big screen for me DF seem to believe it's gpu limited, long as Atlus don't put out a resolution bump for pro it might be a solid 60

 

[mckmas8808]

Technical garbage - 94 metacritic lol..

Same situation as with Elden Ring, game shouldn't get scores like this if it's a mess from tech perspective.

You and some others have lost the plot when it comes to gaming. Sorry mate.

 

[Elios83]

You see? That's why numbered MC / Review scores mean nothing to me. No way a game is a 10 if its a technical mess.

You know how the press and metacritic work.
I have this game preordered but it's clear that Atlus atm is a press/critics darling and as such you won't see objective complaints for the fact the game technically is PS3 level or that in about a year they'll release a complete edition at full price without cross compatible saves.
All things for which other publishers would be docked points.
In the end the most important thing is that the game is engaging and fun.

 

[Thief1987]

You and some others have lost the plot when it comes to gaming. Sorry mate.

Don't dare to criticize my favourite toys and corporations. Who lost the plot lol?

 

[R6Rider]

I LOVE Elden Ring but this shit was unplayable at launch on PS5, constant stutter (I had to play PS4 version in BC). VRR fixed most of the issues but this happened months later and needed "special hardware".

Please. It was far from "unplayable".

 

[The Cockatrice]

You and some others have lost the plot when it comes to gaming. Sorry mate.

No, hes right. Story, gameplay, audio and technical presentation all matter equally for us normal people. Not saying metaphor is a pos tech wise, but there were games that ran like absolute dog shit, ofc, a rating should reflect that. Common sense.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

 

[MMaRsu]

We got the new undisputed king of technical incompetence here. Fromsoftware has fallen. 90+ scores lol, what a joke

That means despite tech flaws its still amazing

 

[Hrk69]

Where is the OT?

EVEN DBZ SPARKLING BOYS HAS AN OT

 

[Thief1987]

That means despite tech flaws its still amazing

Because "journalists" say so?

 

[Topher]

Because "journalists" say so?

Many of us were saying so before the first review was published based on the demo.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Because "journalists" say so?

I would like to point out something of which you may not be aware. I clicked your profile and the entire first page of your posts on NeoGAF are all negative. All 15 posts. I didn't keep going, but at a glance, it seemed all of the second page is as well.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Many of us were saying so before the first review was published based on the demo.

Word. If the demo is an indication of the full game, this game will be placed with my personal best games of all time. Persona 5 is on that list and this seems better overall so far.

 

[SolidQ]

Holy shit, just tried PC demo AGAIN. It's 120fps locked

Here also low

Maybe game love more RDNA3?
4k 200% works fine


Seems for Real game love more RDNA3. Massive diffrence. So that seems why PS5 is bad

Spoiler

RX7600

RX 6600

 

[Punished Miku]

Many of us were saying so before the first review was published based on the demo.

I mostly ignore scores and don't get too heavily invested in review wars, but if people can't even tolerate any discussion on this game possibly being overrated then I guess nothing is overrated.

It's literally built on a copy of a 10 year old PS3 game, with nearly identical battle system, dialogue system, social link system, game structure. It runs poorly technically, which I agree isn't a huge deal but after seeing how much loading screens matter to people interested in Starfield, I continue to be absolutely baffled that a current gen $70 RPG with $100+ special editions is getting such a gigantic free pass for dropping the ball on loading, texture detail, frame rate, resolution.

We're know that the gameplay is going to be nearly identical to Persona 5 with some nice tweaks and updates. Gameplay-wise alone I could see that being a 8/10 or so if we're generous considering it has nothing really going on in the level design or dungeon design, meaning that all that is left is writing and story to give it a +14 bump. That has to account for the giant score boost making it among the best games ever made. It's just kind of hard to believe that is truly the case. Guess we'll see. I guess the game is entirely immune to criticism, and honestly Persona has been like that for a decade so none of this surprises me.

 

[ap_puff]

How can japanese devs continually be so incompetent with tech??

 

[Thief1987]

How can japanese devs continually be so incompetent with tech??

They don't feel the need to improve. Look at this thread - lala land where game is amazing

 

[TintoConCasera]

Where is the OT?

EVEN DBZ SPARKLING BOYS HAS AN OT

I think our man Thick Thighs Save Lives is working on it. Let him cook.

 

[Danjin44]

They don't feel the need to improve. Look at this thread - lala land where game is amazing

Or people played the game and liked what they played. You also love to shit on FROM games, you free not to like them but that doesn’t mean everyone else needs share your opinion.

Don’t like it, don’t buy it….end of story.

 

[ap_puff]

Or people played the game and liked what they played. You also love to shit on FROM games, you free not to like them but that doesn’t mean everyone else needs share your opinion.

Don’t like it, don’t buy it….end of story.

Yet everyone can recognize that the game experience is impaired due to it. I loved elden ring because I played the ps4 version on ps5, but if the ps5 version was the only thing that existed I may have just dropped it. JP game makers need to recognize that this is a significant deficit in their games and if they really want to have success they need to address it. I'm not buying a $500 console to experience stuttering in a game that looks like this. And the worst thing is this is such an easy thing to fix.

 

[adamsapple]

They don't feel the need to improve. Look at this thread - lala land where game is amazing

The fact that it has a strong reception despite this kind of tech shows how good the game is.

Ocarina of Time ran with a 20fps frame rate cap, what a piece of shit miright?

 

[Punished Miku]

The fact that it has a strong reception despite this kind of tech shows how good the game is.

Ocarina of Time ran with a 20fps frame rate cap, what a piece of shit miright?

Is that what we're going with now? This is the next Ocarina of Time level of game?

 

[Danjin44]

Yet everyone can recognize that the game experience is impaired due to it. I loved elden ring because I played the ps4 version on ps5, but if the ps5 version was the only thing that existed I may have just dropped it. JP game makers need to recognize that this is a significant deficit in their games and if they really want to have success they need to address it. I'm not buying a $500 console to experience stuttering in a game that looks like this. And the worst thing is this is such an easy thing to fix.

Again your money and your choice, I’m not bothered by performance imperfection, I played many games with performance issues and still end loving them like Bloodborne and Monster Hunter World on PS4.

Heck Shadow of the Colossus had terrible performance on PS2 and yet still one of the best games out there.