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[The Fartist]

 

[Celcius]

With the RTX 60 series do you think Nvidia will again leave a huge gap between the 6090 and the 6080?

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

Developers better learn to optimize because next gen adoption will be sloowww if the pricing doesn't get reigned in.

 

[Skifi28]

 

[Hohenheim]

With the RTX 60 series do you think Nvidia will again leave a huge gap between the 6090 and the 6080?

Definitly. But as things stand, I wouldn't be suprised if the 60-series won't be around until late 2027. And by then the 6080 will probably be 5090-level, But with lower power consumption. Maybe.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

So what do you suggest to anyone looking to buy hardware within the next year or so?

Not who you quoted, but GPUs are probably a decent purchase now if you can get a good BF deal, but the people panic buying 64GB of RAM now are just feeding into the stupidity. PC gamers have no sense of value though, they are told to jump and do. They're willing to spend absurd amounts of money on components because they're "saving" by not "having to pay for online".

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Nice advice but I don't think my i7-6700 is up to the task and it's an awful moment to buy an whole computer.

Upgrading from my i7-6700k gave me a few extra years to hold out before upgrading from my 1080 ti. Going from an i7-6700k to an i7-12700k made a world of difference not just with games, but everything.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Fuck it, I just ordered a new rig. Going all in.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D (8x 4.7GHz / 5.2GHz Turbo)
64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 AMD/Intel 6000MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB CL30
32GB NVIDIA RTX5090

I don't think prices will get any better. My first rig since 2015.

Congrats. With that setup you might last another 10.

 

[simpatico]

I agree. I'm checking FB daily waiting for a good one to pop up.

Here's the facts:

- this hardware gen still has a decade to go. Switch 2 and PS6 specs guarantee this. Valve knew this when they spec'd Steam Womb

- Memory is cheaper today than it will be tomorrow. Don't be overconfident because we've had RAM spikes in the past. AI didn't exist and Nvidia wasn't feeding planet earth back then. This is a new era and anything is possible.

I think we're in the beginning of the end of home computing. Where the processing happens at home I mean. For a myriad of reasons, cloud computing just makes sense for the future. When physical market realities, like needing people to dig up more RAM hit us, it's worth looking at what we're asking for.

32GB PS6's in every home is an expensive endeavor. And what's the upside? Carving up gaming 6xxx series chips sounds equally implausible. Far more important customers want those chips and it'll be a bitch to get the vRAM. Just use GeForce Now.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I agree. I'm checking FB daily waiting for a good one to pop up.

Here's the facts:

- this hardware gen still has a decade to go. Switch 2 and PS6 specs guarantee this. Valve knew this when they spec'd Steam Womb

- Memory is cheaper today than it will be tomorrow. Don't be overconfident because we've had RAM spikes in the past. AI didn't exist and Nvidia wasn't feeding planet earth back then. This is a new era and anything is possible.

I think we're in the beginning of the end of home computing. Where the processing happens at home I mean. For a myriad of reasons, cloud computing just makes sense for the future. When physical market realities, like needing people to dig up more RAM hit us, it's worth looking at what we're asking for.

32GB PS6's in every home is an expensive endeavor. And what's the upside? Carving up gaming 6xxx series chips sounds equally implausible. Far more important customers want those chips and it'll be a bitch to get the vRAM. Just use GeForce Now.

Valve getting into artificial womb technology sounds kind of awesome TBH

 

[simpatico]

Valve getting into artificial womb technology sounds kind of awesome TBH

Imagine Gabe carrying your clone forever on his yacht. Rubbing belly while watching the sunset. It's the real Death Stranding 3.

 

[RafterXL]

Ypu are a lemming and part of the problem if you buy right now.

Only if you already have a decent PC. If you're already struggling then waiting is a shit proposition. I just built a new one and put a 5800x3d/5070 system on CL for $900 to see if I could unload it fast, but if doesn't I'll probably get more for it in 6 months and even more a year from now. The PC hardware market is looking bleak and I don't see it getting better any time soon.

 

[digital_ghost]

Most of us are still using our 4090 until the 6000 series release.

Me with a 5090:

 

[//DEVIL//]

I agree. I'm checking FB daily waiting for a good one to pop up.

Here's the facts:

- this hardware gen still has a decade to go. Switch 2 and PS6 specs guarantee this. Valve knew this when they spec'd Steam Womb

- Memory is cheaper today than it will be tomorrow. Don't be overconfident because we've had RAM spikes in the past. AI didn't exist and Nvidia wasn't feeding planet earth back then. This is a new era and anything is possible.

I think we're in the beginning of the end of home computing. Where the processing happens at home I mean. For a myriad of reasons, cloud computing just makes sense for the future. When physical market realities, like needing people to dig up more RAM hit us, it's worth looking at what we're asking for.

32GB PS6's in every home is an expensive endeavor. And what's the upside? Carving up gaming 6xxx series chips sounds equally implausible. Far more important customers want those chips and it'll be a bitch to get the vRAM. Just use GeForce Now.

I am going to guess that Devs will start optimizing their games more if the new steam cube is a success. with that being said, come 6000 series, it will be sold out for months like usual.

there are always people like me that want to brute force everything to the max. i don't like optimizing shit. just max everything and go.

 

[Zathalus]

still cheaper than a gaming PC thats for sure.
And probably even better optimized games keklol

Yes obviously the upfront costs will be cheaper, it always is. But a potential 20GB console in 2028 is just sad.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

The shortage of GPU's is indeed going to be unprecedented.

Companies like Coreweave, Applied Digital, Nebius, Microsoft etc are being allocated the lions share of the supply chain to build out enormous AI datacenters.

The demand for GPU's is already sky high despite FUD news articles talking about bubbles and stock being stuck on shelves etc.. it's utter nonsense, at work our head of security was trying to secure £13m worth of H100, H200, and Blackwell Ultra. They were told that they are all fully sold out for the next 3 years with a huge backlog.

It's insane considering blackwell is soon to be replaced...

That's not good. I'm also concerned with natural resources being poured into this shit and it becoming a human rights issue later on down the line. I don't think I am paranoid with all the investment cash being funneled into AI.

 

[Nocty]

That's not good. I'm also concerned with natural resources being poured into this shit and it becoming a human rights issue later on down the line. I don't think I am paranoid with all the investment cash being funneled into AI.

the bigger problem is going to be electricity

these mf's take so much power to run that it's going to hammer the grid to pieces

 

[Spyxos]

I agree. I'm checking FB daily waiting for a good one to pop up.

Here's the facts:

- this hardware gen still has a decade to go. Switch 2 and PS6 specs guarantee this. Valve knew this when they spec'd Steam Womb

- Memory is cheaper today than it will be tomorrow. Don't be overconfident because we've had RAM spikes in the past. AI didn't exist and Nvidia wasn't feeding planet earth back then. This is a new era and anything is possible.

I think we're in the beginning of the end of home computing. Where the processing happens at home I mean. For a myriad of reasons, cloud computing just makes sense for the future. When physical market realities, like needing people to dig up more RAM hit us, it's worth looking at what we're asking for.

32GB PS6's in every home is an expensive endeavor. And what's the upside? Carving up gaming 6xxx series chips sounds equally implausible. Far more important customers want those chips and it'll be a bitch to get the vRAM. Just use GeForce Now.

Wait ps6 is rumored to have 32gb vram? Thats the same as 5090 i highly doubt that number.

 

[DenchDeckard]

still cheaper than a gaming PC thats for sure.
And probably even better optimized games keklol

Better optimised games .....?

 

[SScorpio]

Not who you quoted, but GPUs are probably a decent purchase now if you can get a good BF deal, but the people panic buying 64GB of RAM now are just feeding into the stupidity. PC gamers have no sense of value though, they are told to jump and do. They're willing to spend absurd amounts of money on components because they're "saving" by not "having to pay for online".

Unless AMD or Intel bring competition, that just won't happen. The last time NVIDIA was scared we got the legendary 1080ti, but the AMD rumors were just that, rumors. AMD yet again fell on their faces and their mighty GPU was just fairy dust.

I could see low end and even mid tier GPUs going away completely. You already have systems with AMD APUs and NVIDIA's ARC iGPUs are can game very well on the low end. We'll see what comes out of Intel and NVIDIA partnership. I really hope it's not spelling the end of Arc, but we'll see what happens.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/shocker-intel-cpus-to-feature-built-in-nvidia-rtx-graphics

 

[Dirk Benedict]

the bigger problem is going to be electricity

these mf's take so much power to run that it's going to hammer the grid to pieces

Electricity, Water and Earth/Land. The Grid is another thing, too.

 

[simpatico]

Wait ps6 is rumored to have 32gb vram? Thats the same as 5090 i highly doubt that number.

PS6 is in a weird place because of the 5 Pro. It's hard to see how they get the price below $1,000 and still make it faster than the 5 Pro in all ways. They're going to have to take a loss on it or figure out how to message the 6 being slower than the 5 Pro.

 

[Bieren]

Come on people. Stop being dirty shellfish device hoarders. Spend a couple thousand dollars on something you don't need. Think of the shareholders damnit.

 

[NeonDelta]

Wait ps6 is rumored to have 32gb vram? Thats the same as 5090 i highly doubt that number.

Unified memory of 32 to 48 I think the rumour is

 

[SScorpio]

PS6 is in a weird place because of the 5 Pro. It's hard to see how they get the price below $1,000 and still make it faster than the 5 Pro in all ways. They're going to have to take a loss on it or figure out how to message the 6 being slower than the 5 Pro.

Going Zen 2 to Zen 6 will be a massive performance increase as Zen 2 -> Zen 3 was a decent jump. Then up to Zen 4 was a good leap as well, while 5 wasn't as large. But 6 could be up to a 30% uplift from Zen 5. That could more than double CPU processing power.

The PS5 Pro is RDNA3 with some custom silicon to run PSSR but it's a fixed pipeline versus what's found in RDNA4. UDNA/RDNA5 (we'll see what AMD ends up calling it) with continue to be a big performance increase from RDNA4.

That means the PS6 will be quite a bit more powerful than both the PS5 and PS5 Pro. The issue will be the portable that's below the specs of the base PS5. If that actually happens there won't really be a reason someone couldn't say on the base PS5 or PS5 Pro through the entire generation. But the PS6 will still run the games at a higher resolution and more complex graphical settings.