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Disney Layoffs Hit Marvel Studios Hard
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MrTroubleMaker
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kpopSuperstar
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All their superhero films last year struggled, Thunderbolts, Captain America, and Fantastic Four flopped. Doomsday will determine their course moving forward, with a $700 million production and marketing budget, it will shape Marvel moving forward, it needs to gross way north of 1.5 billion.
HRK69
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Not all films have been bad. Come on now
AJUMP23
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Give me a good one in the current run and I will pass my judgement on your judgement.
Liopleurodon
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It's time for another Disney Renaissance.
HRK69
Gold Member
It's always one extreme or the other and never anything in between
The recent stuff? Highly mediocre, sure. But all bad? Nah
Thunderbolts and The Fantastic Four: First Steps were pretty decent imo. Apparently the new Daredevil series has been decent too
Deadpool & Wolverine was actually good imo
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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Unfortunately the bad has been BAD like She-Hulk, Black Widow, Captain America Brave New World and even more. There has been movies and shows Post Phase 3 I did love though. Not to mention the massive amount of movies and shows that really diluted the brand. I hope this means they are getting rid of the people responsible for all the bad stuff. We shall see what happens in five to ten year or even sooner
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Current run = anything since Endgame?
Deadpool was a lot of fun. FF wasn't amazing but it was good enough.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
I didn't mind Black Widow but outside of some character introductions it was really unnecessary.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I'm not a fan of ScarJo, she's a terrible actress, despite me hating the movie, it did introduce Yelena who is way better Black Widow than ScarJo
AJUMP23
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You sir have been weighed in the balance and found satisfied by the average. You shall be sentenced to a life of mediocre entertainment.
DeepEnigma
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Probably purging more of the 'old guard' knowing Disney.
i heard Black Widow was okay not great but not trash.
and getting to look at scarjo and Florence P for 90 minutes sign me up
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
You're point being?
my first post was a mistake look at my edited post
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ChorizoPicozo
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The M-SHE-U paying dividens
Hari Seldon
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I hate capeshit but this is a reasonable move considering they have already cut back heavily on the number of movies and shows in parallel production.
Fbh
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But are they firing the people responsible for that? Or are they firing random workers that mostly just do what they are told and now have to pay the consequences for poor decisions that were made above their pay grade ?
MayauMiao
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Everybody clap
Its just amazing that Disney spent billions buying boys driven IPs and ruined it by trying to push it as girl power. Same goes with Star Wars.
newtypepilot
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tell me you know nothing about VFX without telling me you know nothing about VFX
MayauMiao
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I like to add more.
Mediocre doesn't cut it especially with high ticket price and expensive cinema consession. If I want to watch a mediocre movie, I'd wait for it to hit streaming.
Thunderbolts and FF, both seem to be movies with C-Tier characters just don't have the pull of A-Tier characters like Deadpool and Wolverine, plus casting Ryan Reynolds & Hugh Jackman.
Pedro need to STFU with politics.
AJUMP23
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I know plenty about it, and it has gone downhill in recent marvel work. Black widow was horrendous. Some say the worst. I thin fantastic 4 was better.
Anything they film on the volume can look bad.
IIRC they basically had a full time VFX studio doing exclusive work for them. This let them have some visual continuity across projects but also contributed to the "we have these 10 effects heavy sequences planned for your film, try to write and direct a movie around them" issue with the MCU. But my guess is that they are gonna dial down all the projects, so really no need for all those full time artists anymore. I'm sure most will just form a new studio and contract work, it's not like the demand is easing up any in general.
Buggy Loop
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Everybody clap
Is this real?
Fake
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Yes. She-Hulk series. She even fart in that scene believe you or not.
epicurius-seven
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Makes sense. I can see people turning out for Avengers but the phenomenon is done and they should have realised that a couple of years ago.
MDSLKTR
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Sped up but the show has many cgi gems:
The fifa career cutscenes
The twerking
And Hulks retarded looking son
She Hulk truly solidified the dark age of the mcu. Thor 2 would have felt like a Dune movie if released today.
Sohurmk833
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Since Disney doesn't make content for me anymore (white man) i'm obviously not spending any money on Disney products. Good riddance.
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Dont worry, the actors and studio execs will make billions of dollars while that one guy slaving away in the CG department underpayed will get axed.
I knew it was going to be bad. I'm glad I never gave it a chance.Sped up but the show has many cgi gems:
The fifa career cutscenes
The twerking
And Hulks retarded looking son
She Hulk truly solidified the dark age of the mcu. Thor 2 would have felt like a Dune movie if released today.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
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Good. Fuck disney and fuck capeshit.
It's a transition from "in house effects artists" to "let's contract an outside FX house for each project" model. I suspect 90% of those artists will still work for marvel, just as a contractor instead of employee.
NickFire
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I saw that too. That's why I said its a tough conclusion to believe instead of impossible. Even with using contractors my guess is AI gets used more as well.
My guess is, on these big $$$ projects, AI will be used to fill in background stuff or add frames between conventional techniques. I'm sure an entire industry of finding and mocking "AIisms" will aside. There already is some for the 'AI asissted' upres of the True Lies and Aliens 4K, for SHAME, James, for shame!
newtypepilot
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i can tell you know jack shit about how the actual pipeline works. VFX work are always outsourced, even if it's to the studios they own. These movies are so VFX heavy that it simply cannot be done one single studio. Next time you watch a movie, sit through the credits and take a look at how many VFX studios and artists are involved. For a typical marvel/disney movie, it's usually ILM (industrial light & magic) that does the bulk of the shots as they are part of disney. Other major VFX studios include digital domain, scanline, double negative, and weta, Even for a tv series, VFX is outsourced to multiple studios, as it has been the industry norm.
And almost every VFX studio, big or small, can produce high quality work. When you see "shit cgi", 99% of the time the showrunners/directors/producers are to be blamed, as they often give little time to the VFX houses to work on the shots, or make ridiculous demands last minute, (usually it's both). Furthermore, every shot has to be greenlit by the showrunners before it makes to the big screen, so if it looks bad, the showrunners approved it.
And many people are mislabeling bad art direction as bad cgi. LIke the twerking she-hulk above for example, that's not bad vfx, that's bad art direction. The vfx is actually well done. The showrunners wanted a twerking she-hulk. Yes, it's stupid and it's uncanny valley, but no vfx houses are going to tell the showrunners that and risk losing the job.
diffusionx
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Imagine the smell
epicurius-seven
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Grildon Tundy
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Thunderbolts was a nice surprise, as someone who hasn't watched half of the Marvel movies post-Endgame.
AJUMP23
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Villain was a little weak for me. Just because I have no Idea who Sentry is. But overall some of the characters were OK. Needing to watch the terrible TV shows to know who some of the people are is a little much. Changing the Movie name after release week was inventive marketing, but DUMB.
You Judgement is deemed Adequate.
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