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Disneyland and Walt Disney World Changing Splash Mountain (Guess Why)

belmarduk

Member
Will they call it "giant cock in a 6 year old boys ass mountain"?

Thats all the rage and progressive right now amrite? don't @ me because I am in NAMBLA. If your agains that you are clearly a racist. #NAMBLA + #BLM #4LIFE #RideorDie

The fuck? Maybe you were trying to make a joke but that's really unhealthy for you to think of in a totally unrelated thread about Splash Mountain.
 
isn't Splash Mountain one of the most popular place in Disney where people like to scatter the ash of their dead love ones? might as well do a complete clean up and remodel while they're changing the name.
 

Arkam

Member
They can whitewash their past all they want... does not change the fact that it is a trash company that brainwashes kids into thinking vengeance is justice. Watch any Disney animated film and you see the same cycle of revenge. The "bad guy" never gets any forgiveness or chance at rehabilitation. Usually they are killed off by the "good guy". Shit is trash that warps the minds of the simple.
 

SegaShack

Member
"Now I hate black people" - No one ever after exiting Splash Mountain.

PatF sucked. Splash Mountain is one of the greatest theme park rides. I'm so sad.
 
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Old Retro

Member
"They did WHAT?!?"

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The movie is banned by Disney, probably no one who asked for the ride to be changed has seen it. Kids today have absolutely no idea what Song of the South is. If my dad hadn't decided to show us the movie one day (we found it on YouTube) I would never have seen it either.
 
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Its interesting Brer Rabbit is pretty much a folklore stories and tales from Africa that was passed down eventually to the slaves in America and was then collected into a book. He is pretty much the archetype for a free slave who outwits the slave masters. They moved the things people would find problematic from the movie. But I’m down either way love the princess and the frog. Villain actually kills a hero then gets dragged to hell at the end. Shits wild.
I loved Princess and the Frog as well, I would love for it to get it's own ride that isn't replacing a beloved one. Maybe it will have the same feel and be great, who knows. I think it's actually one of the best Disney princess films.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
It's been forever since I've seen SotS or read the books (kids novelization of the film perhaps?) but other than the bookend narrator being on old black man what exactly is so racist about it? Weren't all the characters animals? Stereotypical voice acting maybe?

They rightfully cut out that black centaur from fantasia but a lot of other stuff is still around. What makes SotS so bad?
 

nush

Member
It's more relevant these days to have Splash Mountain themed after a Disney princess rather than some old film that's been locked in the vault. It's only a log flume ride after all. Theres no way a black character, New Orleans and water theming could ever be considered racist.
 

Neo_Geo

Banned
Since 95% of the people laugh at all this bullshit, why are all the companies doing it? Are they really that scared of the 5%? It seems smart business wise to please the majority, not a loud minority.

Because the majority either don't care or support the moves. OMG, mind blown right?
 

Doom85

Member
They can whitewash their past all they want... does not change the fact that it is a trash company that brainwashes kids into thinking vengeance is justice. Watch any Disney animated film and you see the same cycle of revenge. The "bad guy" never gets any forgiveness or chance at rehabilitation. Usually they are killed off by the "good guy". Shit is trash that warps the minds of the simple.

Hey now, Simba told Scar to get the fuck out but Scar just had to go for a cheap shot at the end. Bitch got what was coming to him.

Gaston slipped and fell, so that's on him.

Tarzan warned Clayton to stop cutting the vines, but he didn't listen and end up hanging himself.

Aladdin merely traps Jafar in 1, and in 2 well Iago kinda had to kill Jafar lest he rule the entire world. Honestly 2 kinda shows that Aladdin should have been more ruthless at the end of 1, but Disney probably doesn't want their movie to end with Aladdin summoning Genie Jafar and telling him to erase himself from existence, might seem too harsh even if Aladdin was just being sure a potential world domination didn't happen.

If Mulan hadn't killed Shan Yu, he would have still been executed anyway for countless atrocities.

Hell itself decided it was Frollo's time.

Maleficent became Trogdor, and you don't hold back against Trogdor.

The Queen from Snow White was terrified by a bolt of lightning which caused her death. Mother Nature made that call.

Ratigan fell due to the clock he was on striking 10:00. Father Time made that call.

Cruella de Vil didn't die but she probably should have to teach kids the possible consequences of reckless driving.

King Candy died by becoming a mutation and then being undone by the creature's natural instincts.

Also, the villains of Pocahontas, Frozen, Big Hero 6 and Zootopia are arrested.

Really the hero or one of the good guys rarely kill the villain in a Disney film.

Personally I'd rather kids see the worst possible consequences of committing murder, starting needless wars, conspiring to murder, etc. than have the bad guy ultimately walk away with a slap on the wrist because they "feel bad about it" now. It gives a better emphasis on, "hey, don't do this shit, because look what might happen!"
 

Arkam

Member
Hey now, Simba told Scar to get the fuck out but Scar just had to go for a cheap shot at the end. Bitch got what was coming to him.

Gaston slipped and fell, so that's on him.

Tarzan warned Clayton to stop cutting the vines, but he didn't listen and end up hanging himself.

Aladdin merely traps Jafar in 1, and in 2 well Iago kinda had to kill Jafar lest he rule the entire world. Honestly 2 kinda shows that Aladdin should have been more ruthless at the end of 1, but Disney probably doesn't want their movie to end with Aladdin summoning Genie Jafar and telling him to erase himself from existence, might seem too harsh even if Aladdin was just being sure a potential world domination didn't happen.

If Mulan hadn't killed Shan Yu, he would have still been executed anyway for countless atrocities.

Hell itself decided it was Frollo's time.

Maleficent became Trogdor, and you don't hold back against Trogdor.

The Queen from Snow White was terrified by a bolt of lightning which caused her death. Mother Nature made that call.

Ratigan fell due to the clock he was on striking 10:00. Father Time made that call.

Cruella de Vil didn't die but she probably should have to teach kids the possible consequences of reckless driving.

King Candy died by becoming a mutation and then being undone by the creature's natural instincts.

Also, the villains of Pocahontas, Frozen, Big Hero 6 and Zootopia are arrested.

Really the hero or one of the good guys rarely kill the villain in a Disney film.

Personally I'd rather kids see the worst possible consequences of committing murder, starting needless wars, conspiring to murder, etc. than have the bad guy ultimately walk away with a slap on the wrist because they "feel bad about it" now. It gives a better emphasis on, "hey, don't do this shit, because look what might happen!"

That was a lot of examples of villains being “beaten” in various fashions (which most I would have described very different) Now how about a couple examples of redemption or rehabilitation? Cuz that is the point I care about. Only one that comes to mind is the Fox and the Hound. They teach children that life is binary struggle of good vs bad instead the nuance of experience. And how to confront darkness with light. Not some philistine “eye for an eye”.
 

Arkam

Member
I provided four examples of the villain being arrested: Pocahontas, Frozen, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia. Prison is technically rehabilitation.

Was looking for more messaging than "we sent the problem away". And often when they send the villian to Jail they have villains former underling humiliate them (101 dalmatians, robin hood). Comes off as petty. And remember we are not talking real life events. This is a story crafted start to finish. Could just as easily have the villian see the error of their ways and it end peacefully.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
In moana the "villain" is basically Maui, and he is rehabed by the end.

I think in Brave there is no real villain and everyone hugs it out, same with Good Dinosaur.

Maybe a difference between Pixar and big Disney? No one dies in Bolt and the "bad bureaucrats" put him back in the show IIRC.

But look at their live action kid shows. FULL of anti-authority spunk! Disney is in the money making business, not the "teaching morals" business.
 
This makes sense in Disneyland since you got the New Orleans area next to it, but idk how this will work in Florida.

Also, this shit better still be named Splash Mountain and not something over-convoluted like "Princes Tiana & Her Magical Splash Adventures Where Your Shirt Gets Damp & Wet."
 
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TDiddyLive

Member
If Disney wanted to retheme based on the obscurity of Song of the South, that would have been fine. But Princess and the Frog is a bad ride choice. The better choice would have been Moana, considering the whole water ride angle and the big splash.
Plus the ride isn’t in New Orleans Square. It’s in Critter Country. Pua and Heihei merchandise is still sold at the park so it come together.
 
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