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DNA testing clears man of sex crimes after serving 16 years in prison
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DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Triggerhappytel
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Makes me feel a bit tearful just looking at that. Poor guy. A happy end at least, but 16 fucking years?!
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I am pretty sure he will get a few million dollars. Isn't it always like this ?
I know jack-all about the law, but that's what I always thought it was. "Sorry for fucking your life, our bad. Enjoy the rest of it!"
Also, if I'm reading this right, the guy is actually a rapist but just didn't commit the rapes he was convicted of? Says he raped his girlfriend. In which case yeah, sucks to go down for crimes you didn't commit, but I certainly have no compassion for him if that bit of info is true.
Then he comes out of prison and tracks down those responsible and it turns out it was him all along but hes actually a split personality who has been overpowered by his evil self and was never in jail, and now he faces a moral quandry to hand himself in or continue on with his life.
Its a great PNC with a fantastic plot, metacritic 81 I reckon.
Its a great PNC with a fantastic plot, metacritic 81 I reckon.
The thing is, eyewitnesses count as evidence, unreliable though they are.
MindGamingMantis
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God damn. 16 years.... I hope he wasn't a gamer..he's gonna be pissed when he gets back.
OfTheOverflow
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Yep, read that too. No sympathy.
Dragon1893
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Come on guys, this is no joking matter. The guy got his life robbed from him. All that time with his family that he'll never get back. Put yourselves in his shoes.
Edit: wait, he has a history of raping? Well, it's still a terrible mistake of course but I'm not going to feel sympathy for him.
Edit: wait, he has a history of raping? Well, it's still a terrible mistake of course but I'm not going to feel sympathy for him.
It may have been prohibitively expensive, especially in a case with eye witnesses pointing the finger at a man that had already raped at least one woman.
Langdon Alger
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Dragon1893
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Yeah, I edited my post, missed that part.
Who was wrongly convicted of more rapes.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I've heard of a guy getting nothing but a $20 gift card for this sort of thing.
Yoshi
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He raped his girlfriend, seemingly got convicted for that (rightfully I guess? His girlfriend will have been able to identify him properly), so what is the reason to not feel compassion for him when he gets convicted for something he did not do? For all we know he saw his wrong doings and decided to live a better life, be more responsible from there on, just to be convicted out of prejudice (he was a rapist once, he sure has raped again) and seemingly lies (the victims are said to have identified him...)
And that makes it okay for him being a prior rapist? C'mon man. there's a time and place for contrarianism, but this isn't the right hill to die on.
Langdon Alger
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Whoops. I responded before your edit.Thread was moving fast.
I just feel like there are enough cases of faulty eyewitness accounts that maybe, their overall validity could be called into question. Doesn't something like this help build a legal precedent that can be used to toss out eyewitness testimony? I mean, many times, you're looking at bad memory at best, or possibly even coercion by authorities.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Of course it doesn't make it ok, but since they claim he was a rapist before, it is safe to assume he was convicted for that, too. But it is not fair to convict him for something he did not do.
Where did I say anything like that?
It means that either you believe in justice for all, or you don't believe in justice. The guy is a rapist that was punished accordingly. That doesn't put him on the chopping block for a wrongful conviction.
He did something horrible, okay, sure. That doesn't make it okay to punish him for doing horrible things that he didn't do.
No one's saying it's okay. If I'm reading this correctly, he already served his time for that, then afterward he was wrongly convicted of raping 3 more girls (which he didn't do) so he got 16 years of prison for a crime he didn't do. I'm not going to act as if getting wrongly convicted is okay just because they guy did a heinous crime that he already served his time for 2 decades or so ago.
Wasn't my point. He was responding to someone that quoted another person about showing him sympathy, implying that he was wrong to point out that he was already a convicted rapist. As I said in my original post above, wrongful convictions suck, but the dude was a rapist, he already had a lot of problems that he's caused for himself and others before being wrongfully convicted of more rape. Times like these you should save the outrage and crocodile tears for some wrongfully convicted individuals that didn't rape anyone prior.
I wasn't implying this was "justice", I was saying the man doesn't deserve sympathy for his plight because he's a convicted rapist because you responded to someone pointing out he was a rapist in response to someone asking for us to show him sympathy. He served his time (and then some, from the wrongful conviction), but he's still a rapist.That doesn't excuse what he did prior.
Well I know my post got deleted because it originally contained a gaming joke
But like I said
I know money doesn't buy happiness but the government needs to give this guy a couple million dollars, not just for compensation but the psychologist and therapist bills he is going to have to pay for when trying to readjust back into society
Edit: wait he is still a rapist? Chop his dick off
But like I said
I know money doesn't buy happiness but the government needs to give this guy a couple million dollars, not just for compensation but the psychologist and therapist bills he is going to have to pay for when trying to readjust back into society
Edit: wait he is still a rapist? Chop his dick off
Sorry. My post wasn't actually intended to go down that route, but I'm tired and made the silly-bad decision to join in once I realized I'd used the word "level."
Truly though, what the man's daughter said really resonates with me. Everything she said. I empathize with her. Full stop, damn, I wish I had a dad.
That's probably peanuts next to the father's suffering, of course. I can't even imagine. Seeing as he was a rapist beforehand I can't bring myself to feel total empathy here, but still.
No one is excusing his prior actions. You're inventing issues that don't exist in this thread, so stop. He was convicted of crimes he didn't commit and deserves to be free, end of.
CountAntonius
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It's late and I'm half asleep so my comprehension might be low but where in those two articles does it mention he was previously incarcerated for a prior rape charge?
Found it on another article.
What was the reasoning behind your reply to Langdon Alger then?
CaviarMeths
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Am I reading correctly that he was imprisoned for 16 years and has a 7 year old daughter?
Edit: No I am not. Read "his daughter and 7 year old child," not "his daughter and her 7 year old child."
Edit: No I am not. Read "his daughter and 7 year old child," not "his daughter and her 7 year old child."
Seventh paragraph in the OP.
You really can't piece that together? The hand waving, as if this is somehow less frightening because the guy did something awful previously was, in my opinion, ridiculous. You don't have to feel for the guy to see his case as an injustice.
Granddaughter
Here: "At his trial, three victims identified Vargas, who had previously served time for forcibly raping a girlfriend, as the man who attacked them."
CountAntonius
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Yep read them both like 3 times and didn't see it till I read the third article. Probably would not have made the thread had I noticed that since it will probably go in another direction now.
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