Do you miss the possibility of intestellar space travel?

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lightless_shado said:
There are earth like planets, the problem is getting to those planets. And in my opinion, although space travel would be cool people would just shit up the next planet like they did this one. We aren't ready to travel. Either we'll be wiped out before we can, or the technology will never get advanced enough because of inherent flaws in the character of people who are in power and who direct culture.
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Yes, I agree.

and the next planet will be shit up if there are billions of people to do it. A lot of planets to explore = less people on each planet. Probably.

but anyway, it's pointless, since it's not possible for now.

except UFOs do it somehow :lol
 
I too feel like interplanetary travel and colonization in my lifetime has gone from a near universal certainty to an almost probably not going to happen all thanks to two or three presidents who were too shortsighted to invest in our future. It's a damn shame that America is going to burn out before accomplishing truly spectacular things like landing on Mars.
 
if there was a relatively safe and cheap way i would.
But unfortunately it's a complete no-show.

so no, i don't miss it. Enough amazing stuff here on earth. I will never get bored here.
I don't even understand how that works, getting bored.
 
80-100 years? try more. It would take us that long just to leave the Oort Cloud.
The point is, it was never possible but we know better now.
 
Who knows, a technological breakthrough might make it possible and cheap within our lifetime. Most people couldn't even conceive long distance flight (or even flight itself) in the early 20th century and we set a man to the moon 69 years later.

But at this point I'm hoping we just get as much technological growth in this century as the last.
 
Know what would have been cool? If there was another life-supporting planet, like, right near us in the solar system. Well, it'd be cool if the creatures on the other planet weren't more advanced/homicidal/humans.
 
revolverjgw said:
I wonder how many millions of similarly advanced societies pondered stuff like this, before getting snuffed out like we'll be.
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revolverjgw said:
I wonder how many millions of similarly advanced societies pondered stuff like this, before getting snuffed out like we'll be.
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We're not likely to find out. Though it's a very interesting question.
 
I never expected to experience interstellar space travel, but I really expected at least a hop off this damn rock.
 
subversus said:
Now when I know that it's not feasible/possible in the near future (80-100 years) I miss those times when I was dreaming about a vacation somewhere in Alpha Centauri or some other star system.
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Have you ever been to Socotra, Santorini, the Altiplano, the Galapagos islands, the Namib desert, beyond the arctic/antarctic circles, or to the bottom of the ocean? The internet can make the earth seem tiny, but it's still a strange and wonderful place.
 
leroy hacker said:
Have you ever been to Socotra, Santorini, the Altiplano, the Galapagos islands, the Namib desert, beyond the arctic/antarctic circles, or to the bottom of the ocean? The internet can make the earth seem tiny, but it's still a strange and wonderful place.
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Did the English explore ALL of Europe before colonizing America? Doubt it.
 
99% of people don't even make enough money to see 0.001% of the awesome places our beautiful earth has to offer. No, I don't care about interstellar space travelling shit. How about making earth travelling faster, eco-friendlier and cheaper/more accessible? People need to let go of this lame space travelling stuff.
 
Rocket Scientist said:
99% of people don't even make enough money to see 0.001% of the awesome places our beautiful earth has to offer. No, I don't care about interstellar space travelling shit. How about making earth travelling faster, eco-friendlier and cheaper/more accessible? People need to let go of this lame space travelling stuff.
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You live in a fairy tale world. You think the government would bring out their solution to free and clean energy? Nope sorry bro.
 
Alucrid said:
This music makes me feel like a kid on a distant outer rim planet running in fields of green with towering, futuristic building silhouettes plastered against a setting sun watching as ships fly off into the cosmos. It's fucking awesome.

Midi Drift is godly.
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I think I do.
 
I think they might find something out in our lifetime.

While I'm not that interested in this (currently) I remember when I was having a driving lesson and my instructor sitting next to me was high as fuck and he starting talking about going to Mars via this tube system that goes all the way from Earth to there with the Moon as a pitstop. I was laughing my ass off the whole way, good thing I didn't cause any accidents :lol
 
Teetris said:
I think they might find something out in our lifetime.

While I'm not that interested in this (currently) I remember when I was having a driving lesson and my instructor sitting next to me was high as fuck and he starting talking about going to Mars via this tube system that goes all the way from Earth to there with the Moon as a pitstop. I was laughing my ass off the whole way, good thing I didn't cause any accidents :lol
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Sounds like the space elevator, and this might actually be a reality. Earth to the moon travel etc, you know if the whole carbon nanotubes thing works out. Or whatever bullshit they try to feed the public.
 
Rocket Scientist said:
99% of people don't even make enough money to see 0.001% of the awesome places our beautiful earth has to offer. No, I don't care about interstellar space travelling shit. How about making earth travelling faster, eco-friendlier and cheaper/more accessible? People need to let go of this lame space travelling stuff.
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What the fuuuuuck? Nigh 100% of the places it's possible to go to are explored already. Venturing out in space means exploring unknown territory, that's fucking awesome, not lame :lol

Exploring is one of the basic human desires, well it's one of mine at least, but I think most everyone shares the feeling. Curiosity plays a big part, and exploring known territories doesn't do much to quench that thirst compared to the vast unknown.
 
Tears For Fears said:
Sounds like the space elevator, and this might actually be a reality. Earth to the moon travel etc, you know if the whole carbon nanotubes thing works out. Or whatever bullshit they try to feed the public.
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The moon is in a tidal orbit, it is the only body that you could ever possibly do it with.
 
msv said:
What the fuuuuuck? Nigh 100% of the places it's possible to go to are explored already. Venturing out in space means exploring unknown territory, that's fucking awesome, not lame :lol
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Nigh, 95% of the world's ocean is still unexplored.
 
leroy hacker said:
Have you ever been to Socotra, Santorini, the Altiplano, the Galapagos islands, the Namib desert, beyond the arctic/antarctic circles, or to the bottom of the ocean? The internet can make the earth seem tiny, but it's still a strange and wonderful place.
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I agree that there really are a lot of things that people haven't discovered and people here haven't seen. More people need to watch Life and Planet earth . Fantastic series that give you a new appreciation for our planet.
 
Rocket Scientist said:
That's cool that you've been to 100% of those places.
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teruterubozu said:
Nigh, 95% of the world's ocean is still unexplored.
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You don't see the difference between being (one of) the first to explore territories and setting foot on places that you already know a lot about.

Not to mention that exploring planets, stars from up close is a completely different thing than moving from one place to the other on the same planet.

I do agree that exploring the ocean is very intriguing as well teruterubozu, but exploring the universe... that's just on another level.
 
msv said:
You don't see the difference between being (one of) the first to explore territories and setting foot on places that you already know a lot about.

Not to mention that exploring planets, stars from up close is a completely different thing than moving from one place to the other on the same planet.

I do agree that exploring the ocean is very intriguing as well teruterubozu, but exploring the universe... that's just on another level.
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No qualms there. Just the 100% statement.
 
Rocket Scientist said:
99% of people don't even make enough money to see 0.001% of the awesome places our beautiful earth has to offer. No, I don't care about interstellar space travelling shit. How about making earth travelling faster, eco-friendlier and cheaper/more accessible? People need to let go of this lame space travelling stuff.
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That's cool, well when an asteroid hits and kills 70% of life on earth again (maybe including humans!), I'm sure we'll all be super happy we got a chance to sight see around the planet instead of at least attempting to colonize other planets.

Also I think the possibility of interstellar space travel is still there. There's so much about the universe we don't understand; we're really just getting started.
 
teruterubozu said:
No qualms there. Just the 100% statement.
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Ah yeah, the 100% referred to RS's statement on the places we can already go to. Didn't mean to say that there's nothing to be discovered here on earth. We still have a lot of exploring left on Earth.
 
The thread title is a question. Answers are personal. For me, it's more important that there travelling the earth becomes more accessible and easier for a larger group of people. I don't care about the people who want to be the first in setting foot on some new planet. And no, I don't know a lot about all of the places I wish to visit, hell, there are countless places I'd want to visit on earth if only I knew of them. You people underestimate the sheer quantity and quality of life and nature on earth. We don't live long enough to even come close to appreciating it and it's beauty, let alone have time to travel space.
Neuromancer said:
That's cool, well when an asteroid hits and kills 70% of life on earth again (maybe including humans!), I'm sure we'll all be super happy we got a chance to sight see around the planet instead of at least attempting to colonize other planets.
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Travelling through space to save our species would be nothing more than delaying the inevitable. There are asteroids everywhere. Earth is actually fairly lucky since the moon and Jupiter apparently take most of the hits. There is a reason why life was able to form here and not on other planets in our vicinity. Asteroids are an argument for travelling through space, yes, but every other place will be filled with equal or more dangerous circumstances.
 
Neuromancer said:
That's cool, well when an asteroid hits and kills 70% of life on earth again (maybe including humans!), I'm sure we'll all be super happy we got a chance to sight see around the planet instead of at least attempting to colonize other planets.

Also I think the possibility of interstellar space travel is still there. There's so much about the universe we don't understand; we're really just getting started.
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You would be long dead if and when that happens. There are no foreseeable objects in the near future that would impact earth anytime soon.
 
I see one or two things happening.

The first (And likely most probable): Is that we somehow discover alien technology on another planet and reverse engineer it allowing FTL travel.

Second: We build a device that allows us to make "Wormholes". FTL won't matter because a wormhole by itself defies the laws of Physics (Well...our current laws). A wormhole could send you the Alpha Centauri system or even the andromeda galaxy.

I doubt we'll come up with Star Trek like FTL drives. It's simply not fast enough on the scale we want to travel.
 
Tears For Fears said:
You would be long dead if and when that happens. There are no foreseeable objects in the near future that would impact earth anytime soon.
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It's not really the foreseeable ones that are the problem is it?
 
It really annoys me when people talk like shit is impossible based solely on their narrow understanding of the laws of the universe. The greatest minds of our modern time don't understand a fraction of what's going on out there. People here understand even less. That includes me, but at least I can recognize what I don't know.

Thousands of years ago mankind probably thought that they could never cross the ocean. It looked physically impossible. Now we can get in a boat and sail across it, or even better, hop in a plane and jump right over it in just a few hours. Technology progresses exponentially, and less than a hundred years after the Wright brothers, we're up in space building a damn space station.

I don't know if we'll ever achieve interstellar travel, but if anything in this universe is 100% certain, it's that our current understanding of physics is nowhere close to the full picture.
 
Tears For Fears said:
You would be long dead if and when that happens. There are no foreseeable objects in the near future that would impact earth anytime soon.
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Actually, we don't know this for sure. The sky is huge, there are so many objects in space, monitoring them all is impossible. It's quite possible we wouldn't know about a object on a collision course towards us.
 
Tears For Fears said:
You would be long dead if and when that happens. There are no foreseeable objects in the near future that would impact earth anytime soon.
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Yeah I guess you're right, I don't really care if humanity dies out, if I'm dead already it's not really going to affect me.

Anyway looks like a big asteroid has a chance (1 in 250K, which isn't that bad odds if you think about it) of hitting in 2182, possibly wiping out most life on earth. That's cool though, who gives a fuck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1298285/Massive-asteroid-hit-Earth-2182-warn-scientists.html
 
leroy hacker said:
Have you ever been to Socotra, Santorini, the Altiplano, the Galapagos islands, the Namib desert, beyond the arctic/antarctic circles, or to the bottom of the ocean? The internet can make the earth seem tiny, but it's still a strange and wonderful place.
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it's not about travelling on Earth! It's about freedom to go anywhere and possibilities that come out of it for humanity. Alpha Centauri example was just an example.
 
Rocket Scientist said:
Actually, we don't know this fr sure. The sky is huge, there are so many objects in space, monitoring them all is impossible. It's quite possible we wouldn't know about a object on a collision course towards us.
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From what I have read, the teams monitoring stuff like this, have not seen any large scale activity of asteroids(on a collision coarse with us). This is not to say that a smaller impact is not out of the question, but the annihilation of the human race? No.
 
Neuromancer said:
Yeah I guess you're right, I don't really care if humanity dies out, if I'm dead already it's not really going to affect me.

Anyway looks like a big asteroid has a chance (1 in 250K, which isn't that bad odds if you think about it) of hitting in 2182, possibly wiping out most life on earth. That's cool though, who gives a fuck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1298285/Massive-asteroid-hit-Earth-2182-warn-scientists.html
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Your right, I don't give a shit. That odds of that actually happening are nil. I am the resident misanthrope around here.
 
Neuromancer said:
Yeah I guess you're right, I don't really care if humanity dies out, if I'm dead already it's not really going to affect me.

Anyway looks like a big asteroid has a chance (1 in 250K, which isn't that bad odds if you think about it) of hitting in 2182, possibly wiping out most life on earth. That's cool though, who gives a fuck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1298285/Massive-asteroid-hit-Earth-2182-warn-scientists.html
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The bolded part is utter nonsense (if "good odds" means the asteroid hits). The asteroid will not hit the earth with such chances.
 
Tears For Fears said:
From what I have read, the teams monitoring stuff like this, have not seen any large scale activity of asteroids (on a collision coarse with us). This is not to say that a smaller impact is not out of the question, but the annihilation of the human race? No.
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That's good to hear then!
 
Neuromancer said:
Yeah I guess you're right, I don't really care if humanity dies out, if I'm dead already it's not really going to affect me.

Anyway looks like a big asteroid has a chance (1 in 250K, which isn't that bad odds if you think about it) of hitting in 2182, possibly wiping out most life on earth. That's cool though, who gives a fuck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1298285/Massive-asteroid-hit-Earth-2182-warn-scientists.html
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Doesnt Apophis have 1 in 250k odds of passing through the keyhole and hitting us in 2036 or something?
 
Emerson said:
It really annoys me when people talk like shit is impossible based solely on their narrow understanding of the laws of the universe. The greatest minds of our modern time don't understand a fraction of what's going on out there. People here understand even less. That includes me, but at least I can recognize what I don't know.

Thousands of years ago mankind probably thought that they could never cross the ocean. It looked physically impossible. Now we can get in a boat and sail across it, or even better, hop in a plane and jump right over it in just a few hours. Technology progresses exponentially, and less than a hundred years after the Wright brothers, we're up in space building a damn space station.

I don't know if we'll ever achieve interstellar travel, but if anything in this universe is 100% certain, it's that our current understanding of physics is nowhere close to the full picture.
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We like to think we know more than we do. Imagine if we discovered concrete evidence of supersymmetry. Then M theory would start looking like more than a pretty mathematical model.
 
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