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[Exterminieren]

Then you show some restraint and only have them once every three years like it used to be in the old days. They should be something special!

The things I would do if I were showrunner...

You're making the assumption that the Daleks were threatening or intimidating in the old days. Outside the 60s... no, not really. They spent a good decade and a half being personality-free stooges for Davros, in between being pushed out of fire escapes or being referred to as a race of robots.

I'd hate to lose the Daleks, but as an actual threatening concept, they've always had a limited shelf life.

 

[Suairyu]

You'd get kicked off because the BBC execs would be pissed off about you ignoring the show's most iconic asset.

Not ignoring! Savoring.

 

[Clegg]

I'd go proper Shakesperian if I were showrunner on Doctor Who.

Soliloquies, tragic heroes and a proper Lady Macbeth bitch of a villain.

Edit: And a full episode about Jim the Fish.

 

[Jintor]

I would ressurect Douglas Adams and make him do it instead

 

[EleventhDoctor]

Odd request-but does anyone know where I can get ahold of some Doctor Who vector .eps artwork? I'm taking a Motion Graphics class and my assignment this week is to morph 5 different vector shapes.

 

[Sober]

Fun episode, with a real heart to it. Man, losing Amy and Rory is going to hit this show hard. My interest will dip majorly, I fear.

Man, Jenna Louise-Coleman! Go back to this post and at least have that. Though I do agree that the Ponds not coming back is gonna suck, I was getting attached.

So I wonder how does something like Torchwood: Miracle Day fit into continuity? Or did they just say 'screw it' and ignored it. The time period wasn't as long but the threat of MD was probably greater than the cubes' (that lasted maybe a day), so not sure who was the Doctor at the time, or why he didn't show up (or for Children of Earth, minus the fact it was a Torchwood show).

Also, I wonder how long it took from people's hearts stopping to them finding the Shakri monologuing to restarting the hearts, because realistically after 10 minutes everyone who died would've been brain-dead. But that's just nitpicking I guess.

 

[mclem]

I don't think you can keep it up. Once you introduce a plan to the Daleks, shit turns sour. They're only good when they're going nuts, killing everyone, something you can't keep up forever and something other monsters do way better.

I seem to remember one old serial - *possibly* Power of the Daleks, but don't quote me on that - which is spoken of fondly because it has a significantly *sneaky* Dalek in it. They aren't just psychotic killing machines, y'know. They're... sneaky psychotic killing machines. Which isn't much of a distinction, but it's something.

 

[gdt]

Man, Jenna Louise-Coleman! Go back to this post and at least have that. Though I do agree that the Ponds not coming back is gonna suck, I was getting attached.

So I wonder how does something like Torchwood: Miracle Day fit into continuity? Or did they just say 'screw it' and ignored it. The time period wasn't as long but the threat of MD was probably greater than the cubes' (that lasted maybe a day), so not sure who was the Doctor at the time, or why he didn't show up (or for Children of Earth, minus the fact it was a Torchwood show).

Also, I wonder how long it took from people's hearts stopping to them finding the Shakri monologuing to restarting the hearts, because realistically after 10 minutes everyone who died would've been brain-dead. But that's just nitpicking I guess.

I'll admit I liked her episode a lot, liked her too. But she's no Amy and Rory, and we don't know if she'll be as good as them, and even if she is, it will take awhile to get there. And there's no way the Doctor will have the same kind of relationship with her as with the Ponds.

Shes was also a bit of a generic smart ass. Just a little bit.

I'll still be there though!

 

[Hot Coldman]

I'll appreciate Oswin if only for some change. It's been so damn long since the Doctor has travelled with a lone companion- last time we saw that was Season 4, really, and even Martha interrupted that. (Not counting Season 5- too much Rory and River)

I seem to remember one old serial - *possibly* Power of the Daleks, but don't quote me on that - which is spoken of fondly because it has a significantly *sneaky* Dalek in it. They aren't just psychotic killing machines, y'know. They're... sneaky psychotic killing machines. Which isn't much of a distinction, but it's something.

Well, I'd like more of that then.

 

[Exterminieren]

I seem to remember one old serial - *possibly* Power of the Daleks, but don't quote me on that - which is spoken of fondly because it has a significantly *sneaky* Dalek in it. They aren't just psychotic killing machines, y'know. They're... sneaky psychotic killing machines. Which isn't much of a distinction, but it's something.

I'm pretty sure it was Evil of the Daleks.

Basically the first 20 minutes of Victory of the Daleks done properly.

 

[mclem]

I'm pretty sure it was Evil of the Daleks.

Basically the first 20 minutes of Victory of the Daleks done properly.

That was going to be my second guess!

 

[hateradio]

I didn't like the rushed ending. It's like they just called it in, after providing an almost Torchwood-like intro. "Just have him wave around the screwdriver and blow up the ship. The end."

 

[Jintor]

I didn't like the rushed ending. It's like they just called it in, after providing an almost Torchwood-like intro. "Just have him wave around the screwdriver and blow up the ship. The end."

I honestly would have been okay with it had they acknowledged how easy it was in some way

"Oh, the old flood the world with black cubes trick! I saw this back in '32. Uh, year 32 of my personal timestream, I mean. Of course, they used confused lobsters back then, cubes wouldn't have worked on Zaphod 9, too many edges. Anyway, here's what you do - kablewy!"

 

[Future Foundation]

Just saw the Doctor/Kate scene.

Damn it, they used the same music that played when the Doctor learned that the Brigadier passed.

 

[Slightly Live]

Anyone else thinking the flickering/on-off lights might have something to do with the angels from the next episode?

 

[hamchan]

Great episode. So that's the first and this episode I consider great. The other two were just average. Pretty decent season so far.

 

[BatDan]

Really good episode, though I will agree that the ending was pretty rushed.

This has been a really strong season. Even the weakest episode (A Town Called Mercy) was pretty good.

To next week!

 

[The Technomancer]

Fantastic thirty minutes, terrible ten minutes. The first three-quarters of this episode did what I thought impossible: blend an interesting sci-fi premise with some effective emotional character development. I want to say this is the best character piece we've gotten for Amy and Rory in their entire run, honestly. Plus the cubes were wonderfully strange and alien, and I loved that. And then yeah, blah blah generic new alien, blah blah literally reversing heart attacks of billions of people, and then the cringeworthy "cubed is the power of three" line. Blegh.

 

[Santiako]

I would ressurect Douglas Adams and make him do it instead

There'd be no one better than him to do the job.

 

[Future Foundation]

This episode needed an extra five-to-ten minutes, that resolution was way too quick.

The rest of it was completely outstanding though, some of the best Who I've seen. Cannot wait until next week, it looks like a huge one.

 

[R_thanatos]

Nice episode , they abused some shoots , but the episode was nice entertainment

Next week however ;-;

 

[Quick]

UNIT just about redeemed.

They got pretty ridiculous in the RTD era (Osterhagen Key? COME ON). I like this more...simple and scientific UNIT. Them barging into the Pond home is almost like a small nod to RTD and how he did UNIT.

To the episode: loved almost all of it. The Doctor confronting the hologram Shakri and restarting everyone's hearts, AND blowing up the ship were all rushed and felt like they trimmed either the script or the scene itself down due to time constraints.

The entire thing overall was great, though. Seeing the Ponds live their normal lives, Rory's dad, talking about their lives and making commitments that have them grounded. It's going to be an interesting mid-season finale next week. (AMY RORY AM CRY)

 

[Sober]

If the Doctor could dump Rory and Amy back almost exactly the same moment they left, why do they sometimes have people complain they go missing for months on end?

 

[Hot Coldman]

One thing that threw me off: this episode was supposed to be set in 2020, right? Why was Alan Sugar still doing the Apprentice, poor sod should be in a nursing home. Brian Cox can at least be explained by his complete lack of aging, guy's like the Japanese.

 

[maharg]

If the Doctor could dump Rory and Amy back almost exactly the same moment they left, why do they sometimes have people complain they go missing for months on end?

The TARDIS is more accurate than it has been in the past, but presumably it's still sometimes a bit off.

 

[BatDan]

One thing that threw me off: this episode was supposed to be set in 2020, right? Why was Alan Sugar still doing the Apprentice, poor sod should be in a nursing home. Brian Cox can at least be explained by his complete lack of aging, guy's like the Japanese.

That's actually the first I learned there was a British version of The Apprentice.
Normally Americans steal the British shows, not the other way around.

 

[Hot Coldman]

That's actually the first I learned there was a British version of The Apprentice.
Normally Americans steal the British shows, not the other way around.

Rule of thumb for reality/talent/whatever shows: they go everywhere. And FWIW, it's a very well-made show- much better than the American version. Feels more honest. Alan Sugar is also a lot more bearable than Donald Trump, too; he's curmudgeonly, but at least he's not a complete bell-end like Trump.

 

[maharg]

That's actually the first I learned there was a British version of The Apprentice.
Normally Americans steal the British shows, not the other way around.

No, I'm pretty sure it happens the other way around with great frequency.

 

[Jintor]

UNIT just about redeemed.

They got pretty ridiculous in the RTD era (Osterhagen Key? COME ON). I like this more...simple and scientific UNIT. Them barging into the Pond home is almost like a small nod to RTD and how he did UNIT.

To the episode: loved almost all of it. The Doctor confronting the hologram Shakri and restarting everyone's hearts, AND blowing up the ship were all rushed and felt like they trimmed either the script or the scene itself down due to time constraints.

The entire thing overall was great, though. Seeing the Ponds live their normal lives, Rory's dad, talking about their lives and making commitments that have them grounded. It's going to be an interesting mid-season finale next week. (AMY RORY AM CRY)

I liked that they were somewhat competant

of course they didn't have to shoot anybody ineffectually but at least they were doing roughly logical things.

 

[Quick]

Also, did anyone else notice how there were still bodies on the beds in the ship moments before it blew up? One can assume that the Doctor, Amy, and Rory only had a few seconds to get out before it blew up. Error or did the three of them really just disregard at least more than five people?

 

[Sober]

Damn, the audiobooks are only read by one person? I was hoping they'd be more like a radio drama where all the voice talent is there to record and everything, you just don't have to worry about the visual component.

Although I guess with the giant gap they left for 11, there is plenty of stuff you can milk out of it even if he's on his own.

 

[Jintor]

I am kind of contemplating how cool it would have been just to have the cubes just disappear and not have a crazy evil duder behind them at all. Just a weird thing instead.

 

[The Technomancer]

I am kind of contemplating how cool it would have been just to have the cubes just disappear and not have a crazy evil duder behind them at all. Just a weird thing instead.

That's what I would have preferred I think. Would have been hilarious.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

Some nice character stuff, interesting setup with a naff ending, decent episode overall.

Next week looks good but I've been finding it hard to keep hyped this series given that we're heading into another months-long break just when we should be getting into the middle of it. Every week used to be "oh shit new Who gotta watch it" in previous years but now it's more like "neat, I'll get around to it soon".

 

[Mariolee]

I am kind of contemplating how cool it would have been just to have the cubes just disappear and not have a crazy evil duder behind them at all. Just a weird thing instead.

I think I would have preferred this. Or have them lead up to something later in the season. The rushed ending was really the worst option we had.

Also, did anyone else notice how there were still bodies on the beds in the ship moments before it blew up? One can assume that the Doctor, Amy, and Rory only had a few seconds to get out before it blew up. Error or did the three of them really just disregard at least more than five people?

Seriously, I was hoping they'd show a quick shot of them pushing the carts back through the portal, but nope. Doctor just "Batmanned" five people.

 

[The Technomancer]

Oh, almost forgot my least favorite part: another "look how awesome humanity is" speech.

 

[DrForester]

Thought it was an OK episodes. Good character stuff, but the plot was treated as an afterthought, as it was obvious the characters were the focus. Think they ruined a good villain too. Has this villain "that the Gallifreyans are afraid of" ever shown up before?

 

[Quick]

 

[Jintor]

I think I would have preferred this. Or have them lead up to something later in the season. The rushed ending was really the worst option we had.

That's what I would have preferred I think. Would have been hilarious.

My alternative option was to have them actually be a viral marketing campaign, but on a galactic scale. A Vogon marketing campaign or some shit.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Did anyone post the super spoiler filled preview of the new episode?

 

[DrForester]

Uh oh...

He's not wearing the wrist strap. Incoming letter from Nintendo!

 

[Quick]

Did anyone post the super spoiler filled preview of the new episode?

I'm calling it now:

Spoiler

River dies, Amy saves her by wiping her off time itself, and Amy and Rory raise Melody. Quickly solves the "can't have a family" part from the first episode, gives us a death, and gives Amy a happy ending.

Also, did anyone notice how there were these webs in the clouds when lightning struck in the intro? It looks to be the same kind that the TARDIS vanishes in in that trailer.

 

[Mariolee]

One thing that threw me off: this episode was supposed to be set in 2020, right? Why was Alan Sugar still doing the Apprentice, poor sod should be in a nursing home. Brian Cox can at least be explained by his complete lack of aging, guy's like the Japanese.

That whole comment about "10 years" threw me for a loop. What did she exactly say?

Also, any lack of future predictions went out the window when GAF was complaining about the 2012 trailer awhile back and how the kid was playing a PSP in 2012. Now here we are, and more kids are playing PSPs than Vitas that's for sure.

 

[Htown]

That whole comment about "10 years" threw me for a loop. What did she exactly say?

Essentially she thinks she and Rory have experienced roughly ten years worth of actual living since they started running with the Doctor, even though much less time has passed chronologically on Earth. Sort of like how they were gone for seven weeks of adventures right in the middle of that one anniversary party.

Which is why they mentioned in an earlier episode that they had to be careful because people would start noticing that they were aging faster than everybody else.

 

[maharg]

I'd just like to say that I'd sooner accept Golum-Jesus-Doctor as good storytelling than anything that rewrites what happens in SitL. That would be a massive disappointment. I get that people want an ending where Amy and Rory raise Melody but not that way. Not. That. Way.

Essentially she thinks she and Rory have experienced roughly ten years worth of actual living since they started running with the Doctor, even though much less time has passed chronologically on Earth. Sort of like how they were gone for seven weeks of adventures right in the middle of that one anniversary party.

Which is why they mentioned in an earlier episode that they had to be careful because people would start noticing that they were aging faster than everybody else.

I'm pretty sure she was saying that ten years had passed on Earth, actually. Hence the *really* big anniversary party.

 

[The Technomancer]

I'd just like to say that I'd sooner accept Golum-Jesus-Doctor as good storytelling than anything that rewrites what happens in SitL. That would be a massive disappointment. I get that people want an ending where Amy and Rory raise Melody but not that way. Not. That. Way.

Agreed. The events of SitL need to stand

 

[Jintor]

I'm pretty sure she was saying that ten years had passed on Earth, actually. Hence the *really* big anniversary party.

I'm pretty sure she was talking about her and rory's personal timestream. I'll check on iview in a moment

 

[EleventhDoctor]

Did anyone post the super spoiler filled preview of the new episode?

Spoiler

It definitely looks like River is regenerating in that quick scene.

 

[DrForester]

Yeah, I got 10 years Earth Time out of it. They mentioned the "double digit" anniversary.

 

[celebi23]

Also, did anyone else notice how there were still bodies on the beds in the ship moments before it blew up? One can assume that the Doctor, Amy, and Rory only had a few seconds to get out before it blew up. Error or did the three of them really just disregard at least more than five people?

I know, right? I thought the Doctor doesn't kill people?