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Documents reveal FBI monitored Occupy Wall Street, coordinated with private banks

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http://www.democracynow.org/2012/12/27/the_fbi_vs_occupy_secret_docs

The monitoring began as soon as the movement formed:

WASHINGTON — The Federal Bureau of Investigation used counterterrorism agents to investigate the Occupy Wall Street movement, including its communications and planning, according to newly disclosed agency records.

The F.B.I. records show that as early as September 2011, an agent from a counterterrorism task force in New York notified officials of two landmarks in Lower Manhattan — Federal Hall and the Museum of American Finance — “that their building was identified as a point of interest for the Occupy Wall Street.”

That was around the time that Occupy Wall Street activists set up a camp in Zuccotti Park in Lower Manhattan, spawning a protest movement across the United States that focused the nation’s attention on issues of income inequality.

In the following months, F.B.I. personnel around the country were routinely involved in exchanging information about the movement with businesses, local law-enforcement agencies and universities.

An October 2011 memo from the bureau’s Jacksonville, Fla., field office was titled Domain Program Management Domestic Terrorist.

The memo said agents discussed “past and upcoming meetings” of the movement, and its spread. It said agents should contact Occupy Wall Street activists to ascertain whether people who attended their events had “violent tendencies.”

The memo said that because of high rates of unemployment, “the movement was spreading throughout Florida and there were several Facebook pages dedicated to specific chapters based on geographical areas.”

The F.B.I. was concerned that the movement would provide “an outlet for a lone offender exploiting the movement for reasons associated with general government dissatisfaction.”

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the F.B.I. has come under criticism for deploying counterterrorism agents to conduct surveillance and gather intelligence on organizations active in environmental, animal-cruelty and poverty issues.

The disclosure of the F.B.I. records comes a little more than a year after the police ousted protesters from Zuccotti Park in November 2011. Law-enforcement agencies undertook similar actions around the country against Occupy Wall Street groups.

Occupy Wall Street has lost much of its visibility since then, but questions remain about how local and federal law-enforcement officials monitored and treated the protesters.

The records were obtained by the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, a civil-rights organization in Washington, through a Freedom of Information request to the F.B.I. Many parts of the documents were redacted by the bureau.

The records provide one of the first glimpses into how deeply involved federal law-enforcement authorities were in monitoring the activities of the movement, which is sometimes described in extreme terms.

For example, according to a memo written by the F.B.I.’s New York field office in August 2011, bureau personnel met with officials from the New York Stock Exchange to discuss “the planned Anarchist protest titled ‘Occupy Wall Street,’ scheduled for September 17, 2011.”

“The protest appears on Anarchist Web sites and social network pages on the Internet,” the memo said.

It added: “Numerous incidents have occurred in the past which show attempts by Anarchist groups to disrupt, influence, and or shut down normal business operations of financial districts.”

A spokesman for the F.B.I. in Washington cautioned against “drawing conclusions from redacted” documents.

“The F.B.I. recognizes the rights of individuals and groups to engage in constitutionally protected activity,” said the spokesman, Paul Bresson. “While the F.B.I. is obligated to thoroughly investigate any serious allegations involving threats of violence, we do not open investigations based solely on First Amendment activity. In fact, the Department of Justice and the F.B.I.’s own internal guidelines on domestic operations strictly forbid that.”

But Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, executive director of the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, said the documents demonstrated that the F.B.I. had acted improperly by gathering information on Americans involved in lawful activities.

“The collection of information on people’s free-speech actions is being entered into unregulated databases, a vast storehouse of information widely disseminated to a range of law-enforcement and, apparently, private entities,” she said. “This is precisely the threat — people do not know when or how it may be used and in what manner.”

The records show little evidence that the members of the movement planned to commit violence. But they do describe a discussion on the Internet “regarding the Occupy Wall Street movement about when it is okay to shoot a police officer” and a law-enforcement meeting held in Des Moines because “there may potentially be an attempt to stop the Iowa Caucuses by people involved in Occupy Iowa.”

There are no references within the documents to agency personnel covertly infiltrating Occupy branches.

The documents indicate, however, that the F.B.I. obtained information from police departments and other law-enforcement agencies that appear to have been gathered by someone observing the protesters as they planned activities.

The documents do not detail recent activities by the F.B.I. involving Occupy Wall Street.

But one activist, Billy Livsey, 48, said two F.B.I. agents visited him in Brooklyn over the summer to question him about planned protests at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., and about plans to celebrate the first anniversary of Occupy Wall Street in September.

The agents, Mr. Livsey said, told him they knew he was among a group of people involved in the Occupy Wall Street “direct action” group that distributed information about the movement’s activities.

He said he felt unnerved by the visit.

“It was surprising and troubling to me,” Mr. Livsey said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/25/n...ounterterrorism-agents-records-show.html?_r=0

...six American universities are sites where campus police funneled information about students involved with OWS to the FBI, with the administrations' knowledge (p51); banks sat down with FBI officials to pool information about OWS protesters harvested by private security; plans to crush Occupy events, planned for a month down the road, were made by the FBI – and offered to the representatives of the same organizations that the protests would target; and even threats of the assassination of OWS leaders by sniper fire – by whom? Where? – now remain redacted and undisclosed to those American citizens in danger, contrary to standard FBI practice to inform the person concerned when there is a threat against a political leader (p61).

Verheyden-Hilliard points out the close partnering of banks, the New York Stock Exchange and at least one local Federal Reserve with the FBI and DHS, and calls it "police-statism":

"This production [of documents], which we believe is just the tip of the iceberg, is a window into the nationwide scope of the FBI's surveillance, monitoring, and reporting on peaceful protestors organizing with the Occupy movement … These documents also show these federal agencies functioning as a de facto intelligence arm of Wall Street and Corporate America."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy
 

jchap

Member
Didn't they find a group of kids that were participating in the OWS movement that thought they were blowing up some bridge in Cleveland?
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
This is probably an entirely appropriate and insightful response to a thread about FBI surveillance of civilian protests.

Yeah.

There isn't anything unusual about this at all really. Especially when these people were having rallies in and around government areas.
 

CHEEZMO™

Obsidian fan
They had to stop protesting to get in line for the latest iphone

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I'm really not seeing much to be outraged about.

Should the FBI be doing this for every single movement? Probably not. But the rapid rise of this particular movement probably warranted some scrutiny.

I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI has been doing similar digging into Tea Party organizations.
 

Hale-XF11

Member
I can imagine it's not very easy keeping together an organization that isn't nearly as well established as the FBI and banks put together. OWS didn't stand a chance against mass media and the elite.
 

Acerac

Banned
This is probably an entirely appropriate and insightful response to a thread about FBI surveillance of civilian protests.

I'm just shocked that it wasn't Manos who made the post. Nobody loves OWS like Manos.

Is he banned again or something?

*Edit*

Apparently it was a perma. Makes sense.
 

Hex

Banned
I can imagine it's not very easy keeping together an organization that isn't nearly as well established as the FBI and banks put together. OWS didn't stand a chance against mass media and the elite.

I think it was a general lack of focus that hurt them more than anything else.
Even at the rallys , if you talked to five different people you could get three or four different answers as to what they were there for.
At Occupy Tampa there were some well meaning people, but I think it kind of became its own enemy.

This is probably an entirely appropriate and insightful response to a thread about FBI surveillance of civilian protests.

I think it was an ok response to the actual post that I was responding to.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
I can imagine it's not very easy keeping together an organization that isn't nearly as well established as the FBI and banks put together. OWS didn't stand a chance against mass media and the elite.

You're not seriously blaming textbook FBI/private sector monitoring of rapid, mass protests for OWS falling apart like the disorganized, aimless mess it was are you?
 

Baraka in the White House

2-Terms of Kombat
As much as I believe that OWS got painted with a shit brush by the media and subsequently squelched, none of this seems particularly surprising nor shocking. FBI probably keeps tabs on hundreds of different groups, tea party included.
 
You're not seriously blaming textbook FBI/private sector monitoring of rapid, mass protests for OWS falling apart like the disorganized, aimless mess it was are you?

Occupy "fell apart" because of a violent nation-wide crackdown against every major Occupy encampment. The evidence presented here suggests what logic suggested already, that the crackdown was coordinated on a national level.

As much as I believe that OWS got painted with a shit brush by the media and subsequently squelched, none of this seems particularly surprising nor shocking. FBI probably keeps tabs on hundreds of different groups, tea party included.

It doesn't surprise you that the FBI coordinated with private banks about legal protests?
 
Reading the things quoted in the OP and Sculli's quotation mark thread make this whole investigation seem really sarcastic.

The memo said agents discussed “past and upcoming meetings” of the movement, and its spread. It said agents should contact Occupy Wall Street activists to ascertain whether people who attended their events had “violent tendencies.”

Ya, sure she has "violent tendencies" if you know what I mean, amirite??
 

akira28

Member
I heard the government was planning assassinations of OWS leaders. Goody.

no they were trying to prevent the assassinations after they got word that different groups were planning armed attacks on OWS protests.(how credible those threats, who knows?)

People are complaining that the FBI, while taking the threats seriously enough to elevate readiness and inform local law enforcement, did not notify OWS themselves.
 

Hex

Banned
As much as I believe that OWS got painted with a shit brush by the media and subsequently squelched, none of this seems particularly surprising nor shocking. FBI probably keeps tabs on hundreds of different groups, tea party included.

I would think that any movement remotely like OWS is well under FBI eyes before it even gets its baby teeth these days, especially the way movements are born online and openly more and more.
 

Enron

Banned
Occupy "fell apart" because of a violent nation-wide crackdown against every major Occupy encampment. The evidence presented here suggests what logic suggested already, that the crackdown was coordinated on a national level.

hahahahahaha. yeah.
 

Hale-XF11

Member
I think it was a general lack of focus that hurt them more than anything else.
Even at the rallys , if you talked to five different people you could get three or four different answers as to what they were there for.
There were some well meaning people, but I think it kind of became its own enemy.

Yeah, but I think the overriding theme was always pretty clear. From wiki: The main issues are social and economic inequality, greed, corruption and the perceived undue influence of corporations on government—particularly from the financial services sector.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
Occupy "fell apart" because of a violent nation-wide crackdown against every major Occupy encampment. The evidence presented here suggests what logic suggested already, that the crackdown was coordinated on a national level.

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First off, like others have said, large groups protesting is almost always going to lead to some sort of surveillance by a government entity. I'd love for you to explain to me how you jump from being watched to "violent nation-wide crackdown against every major Occupy encampment" because everything about this post reeks of the stuff that has always made me and millions more just want to completely ignore the group despite agreeing with some of its many scattered points.

A violent nationwide crackdown means a hell of a lot more than catching some pepper spray or tear gas or a few dozen people getting smacked by riot cops. Hell, OWS was actually getting permission to protest in areas and then stomped on good will by running into unauthorized areas.
 

Evlar

Banned
You're not seriously blaming textbook FBI/private sector monitoring of rapid, mass protests for OWS falling apart like the disorganized, aimless mess it was are you?
Textbook monitoring? Rapid, mass protests? Look at the dates in the OP:
The records provide one of the first glimpses into how deeply involved federal law-enforcement authorities were in monitoring the activities of the movement, which is sometimes described in extreme terms.

For example, according to a memo written by the F.B.I.’s New York field office in August 2011, bureau personnel met with officials from the New York Stock Exchange to discuss “the planned Anarchist protest titled ‘Occupy Wall Street,’ scheduled for September 17, 2011.”

“The protest appears on Anarchist Web sites and social network pages on the Internet,” the memo said.

It added: “Numerous incidents have occurred in the past which show attempts by Anarchist groups to disrupt, influence, and or shut down normal business operations of financial districts.”
The FBI were consulting with the New York Stock Exchange a month before the first major marches in New York. Zucotti wasn't established as a staging ground until September 17. I doubt most of GAF had heard of this before that point; I know I hadn't.
 

J-Rod

Member
Sounds ok to me. They monitored the situation to make sure no crazies capitalized on the ruckus to do something horrible like blow up building or what not. Seems like the prudent thing to do.
 
Yeah, but I think the overriding theme was always pretty clear. From wiki: The main issues are social and economic inequality, greed, corruption and the perceived undue influence of corporations on government—particularly from the financial services sector.

That scope statement omits any deliverables or metrics. No wonder the project failed.
 

Baraka in the White House

2-Terms of Kombat
It doesn't surprise you that the FBI coordinated with private banks about legal protests?

It sounds like the coordination amounted to, "Hey we caught wind that some dudes might camp out on your front door, so heads up." Nothing particularly nefarious on the FBI's part.

The response at the local municipal level seems to be where shit got ugly.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
Textbook monitoring? Rapid, mass protests? Look at the dates in the OP:

The FBI were consulting with the New York Stock Exchange a month before the first major marches in New York. Zucotti wasn't established as a staging ground until September 17. I doubt most of GAF had heard of this before that point; I know I hadn't.

OWS is exactly that. The group put together huge numbers extremely fast. I'm not describing a jacked up corner store flash mob.
Sounds sort of like an inverted Fascism.

Someone correct me if this statement is incorrect.

Fascism?

*sigh*
Sounds ok to me. They monitored the situation to make sure no crazies capitalized on the ruckus to do something horrible like blow up building or what not. Seems like the prudent thing to do.

Thank you.
 

Enron

Banned
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304050304577377851612024974.html

Five suspects were arrested near Cleveland in a sting operation for allegedly plotting to bomb a local bridge, law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

Officials described an amateur effort by a group of self-described anarchists who felt the Occupy Wall Street movement wasn't violent enough. The movement, which argues that corporations and the wealthy are too powerful, has spread to other cities from New York.


The FBI arrested five suspects in the Cleveland area in a sting operation for allegedly plotting a bomb attack on a local bridge, law-enforcement officials said Tuesday. Devlin Barrett has details on Lunch Break. Photo: Reuters.

The five men were arrested late Monday. The charges against them, including conspiracy and attempted use of explosive materials to damage property affecting interstate commerce, were unsealed Tuesday, which was May Day, a day of protest for many of those in the Occupy movement. Investigators allege that the five timed the attack to take place around the May Day protests.

Elsewhere this week, May Day protests took a violent turn.

In Oakland, Calif., on Tuesday, police and protesters clashed when hundreds of demonstrators swarmed around police vans near City Hall, smashing a window on one of them, and protesters shoved some officers. Police fired tear gas. Protesters fled but returned later.

In San Francisco, violence broke out Monday night in the city's Mission District. A faction of protesters who broke away from a party to celebrate the coming May Day events attacked a police station with paint and crowbars and vandalized cars and nearby businesses.

In New York, a few thousand people demonstrated across Manhattan, picketing peacefully outside the offices of major corporations, New York University and dozens of smaller targets, including restaurants and bank branches.

The Facebook page for Occupy Cleveland displayed a statement saying the bomb plot suspects were "associated'' with Occupy Cleveland but "were in no way representing or acting on behalf" of the group or the planned May Day protest. It said the group had canceled the protest because of the arrests.


Reuters
An anarchist group tried to bomb this Ohio bridge, authorities charged.

Officials of the Federal Bureau of Investigation said the public was never endangered by the sting, because the devices the group obtained, provided by an undercover FBI agent, weren't operable explosives.

According to an affidavit filed by FBI agent Ryan Taylor, the group was infiltrated by a paid informant. Over the course of several months, its members discussed in recorded conversations a number of potential targets, including Federal Reserve Banks, a train, a federal counterterrorism center and a neo-Nazi or Ku Klux Klan office, the affidavit said. One of the suspects allegedly envisioned using smoke grenades as a distraction to topple financial-institution signs on high-rise buildings in downtown Cleveland.

Authorities say the group eventually agreed to pay $50 apiece for eight one-pound bricks of what they thought was plastic explosive from the undercover agent. It planned to attack the Route 82 Brecksville-Northfield High Level Bridge, which passes over the Cuyahoga Valley National Park, the affidavit said. Authorities say the group settled on the bridge attack as a means of damaging commerce and corporations. The affidavit notes the bridge bears heavy commercial, private and government traffic.

Law-enforcement officials said the men placed the devices on the bridge Monday night, went to a remote location, pressed the buttons they thought would cause the explosion and, when nothing happened, left and were arrested.

The court papers describe three individuals as the core of the group: Douglas L. Wright, a 26-year-old with a Mohawk haircut who has sometimes gone by the alias Cyco; Brandon Baxter, 20, known to use the alias Skabby; and Anthony Hayne, 37. Two others, Connor Stevens, 20, and Joshua S. Stafford, 23, were late additions to the alleged plot, according to authorities.

All five appeared in federal court in Cleveland on Tuesday afternoon and were ordered jailed without bond pending a hearing Monday, according to the Associated Press.

It wasn't clear if any of the men had retained lawyers. A message left with the federal public defender's office in Cleveland wasn't returned.
 
....

First off, like others have said, large groups protesting is almost always going to lead to some sort of surveillance by a government entity. I'd love for you to explain to me how you jump from being watched to "violent nation-wide crackdown against every major Occupy encampment" because everything about this post reeks of the stuff that has always made me and millions more just want to completely ignore the group despite agreeing with some of its many scattered points.

I'm talking about the week when over a dozen major Occupy encampments were destroyed by local police. That's widely considered the end of the Occupy movement in it's original incarnation. Property was destroyed and protesters were abused. If you don't think that qualifies as a "violent crackdown", whatevs, I won't argue semantics. My point was that the Occupy movement was physically dismantled by police, it did not collapse because of mis-management.
 

Hale-XF11

Member
From the OP:

...six American universities are sites where campus police funneled information about students involved with OWS to the FBI, with the administrations' knowledge (p51); banks sat down with FBI officials to pool information about OWS protesters harvested by private security; plans to crush Occupy events, planned for a month down the road, were made by the FBI – and offered to the representatives of the same organizations that the protests would target; and even threats of the assassination of OWS leaders by sniper fire – by whom? Where? – now remain redacted and undisclosed to those American citizens in danger, contrary to standard FBI practice to inform the person concerned when there is a threat against a political leader (p61).

If that doesn't sound like a potential violent reaction to ANY sort of protesting, how else would you guys interpret it?
 

Grym

Member
Sounds ok to me. They monitored the situation to make sure no crazies capitalized on the ruckus to do something horrible like blow up building or what not. Seems like the prudent thing to do.

yeah pretty much this. Of course the FBI is going to monitor any huge uprising like this
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
How many members did it have in August 2011?

Enough to be considered an organized group of protestors which is enough to get an eye on you. No one's being persecuted.

I fucking hate when people try and equate OWS to some struggle or something...
I'm talking about the week when over a dozen major Occupy encampments were destroyed by local police. That's widely considered the end of the Occupy movement in it's original incarnation. Property was destroyed and protesters were abused. If you don't think that qualifies as a "violent crackdown", whatevs, I won't argue semantics. My point was that the Occupy movement was physically dismantled by police, it did not collapse because of mis-management.

Encampments like what?


And no, its not semantics when you say nationwide violent crackdown. Its just not. This country has seen things like that before. Other countries have. Don't just throw shit like that around.
 

Evlar

Banned
Enough to be considered an organized group of protestors which is enough to get an eye on you. No one's being persecuted.

I fucking hate when people try and equate OWS to some struggle or something...
You are begging the question.
 
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